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CP ALLOCATION PVP SORC

Lord_Etrigan
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Hey everyone,

I need some advice on my PVP build please. Been all over the net looking for answers for correct allocation and max damage but was left with more questions than answers, so the best things is to ask you the players who have experience in dishing out the hurt.

This is my build: Duel wield Magica High Elf Sorc (Max CP)

Front bar: Rune Prison, Crystal Frag, Endless Fury, Structured Entropy, Haunted Curse, Soul assault

Sets are: (Gold) War Maiden and Shackle (Monster sets up for suggestion)

How would you allocate CP to the following tree for the most damage possible? (Bear in mind that the above skills are all magica based and want my magica damage to hit like a truck)

The Ritual
The Atronach
The Apprentice

All inputs and suggestion will be most welcome.
Edited by Lord_Etrigan on December 4, 2017 12:37PM
PS4 EU
Lord Etrigan (Former Emperor): PVE High Elf Sorcerer
Nyssa al Ghul: PVP Nightblade Wood Elf (Ganker)
Lady-Death : PVP High Elf Sorcerer (8 x Campaigns Former Empress and Grand Warlord) Retired:(
Achmed-Silence I keel you: PVP Dark Elf Nightblade (Suicide Bomber)
I'm with stupid: PVP Argonian Magic Temp (Group support and healer).

Guild:
The Order of Stolas (Founder and Guild Master)

Faction: Aldmeri Dominion

Her Royal Highness Queen Ayrenn Arana wants You for Dominion.
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!
  • dpencil1
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    The allocation of CP for max damage is based largely on the percent of damage being done by direct vs dot damage, as well as the amount of crit chance you have, and how much penetration you already have to get to whatever penetration goal you have. So you haven't provided enough info for a truly informed response.

    If I can assume your crit is about 30-40%, that you do mostly direct damage, and that you want to penetrate to 15k, then you're probably good with something like this:
    Ele Expert- 56
    Spell Erosion - 57
    Elfborn - 31
    Master at Arms - 66
    Thaumaturge - 20

    If you can provide actual percentages for crit chance, damage ratio between direct and dot, and your penetration goal, I could give you a more accurate response. (Just using Asayre's CP calculation website: asayre.mygamesonline.org/HotRoptimisation/CPOptimisation.html#)
    Edited by dpencil1 on December 4, 2017 12:37PM
  • Lord_Etrigan
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    dpencil1 wrote: »
    The allocation of CP for max damage is based largely on the percent of damage being done by direct vs dot damage, as well as the amount of crit chance you have, and how much penetration you already have to get to whatever penetration goal you have. So you haven't provided enough info for a truly informed response.

    If I can assume your crit is about 30-40%, that you do mostly direct damage, and that you want to penetrate to 15k, then you're probably good with something like this:
    Ele Expert- 56
    Spell Erosion - 57
    Elfborn - 31
    Master at Arms - 66
    Thaumaturge - 20

    If you can provide actual percentages for crit chance, damage ratio between direct and dot, and your penetration goal, I could give you a more accurate response. (Just using Asayre's CP calculation website: asayre.mygamesonline.org/HotRoptimisation/CPOptimisation.html#)


    Hi and thanks for the speedy response.

    I be home in 2 hours and can check and screenshot my stats.

    Please excuse my ignorance, but I thought that direct damage was mostly for skills like force pulse or physical damage and therefore focused more on magic and damage over time.
    PS4 EU
    Lord Etrigan (Former Emperor): PVE High Elf Sorcerer
    Nyssa al Ghul: PVP Nightblade Wood Elf (Ganker)
    Lady-Death : PVP High Elf Sorcerer (8 x Campaigns Former Empress and Grand Warlord) Retired:(
    Achmed-Silence I keel you: PVP Dark Elf Nightblade (Suicide Bomber)
    I'm with stupid: PVP Argonian Magic Temp (Group support and healer).

    Guild:
    The Order of Stolas (Founder and Guild Master)

    Faction: Aldmeri Dominion

    Her Royal Highness Queen Ayrenn Arana wants You for Dominion.
    LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!
  • Qbiken
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    dpencil1 wrote: »
    The allocation of CP for max damage is based largely on the percent of damage being done by direct vs dot damage, as well as the amount of crit chance you have, and how much penetration you already have to get to whatever penetration goal you have. So you haven't provided enough info for a truly informed response.

    If I can assume your crit is about 30-40%, that you do mostly direct damage, and that you want to penetrate to 15k, then you're probably good with something like this:
    Ele Expert- 56
    Spell Erosion - 57
    Elfborn - 31
    Master at Arms - 66
    Thaumaturge - 20

    If you can provide actual percentages for crit chance, damage ratio between direct and dot, and your penetration goal, I could give you a more accurate response. (Just using Asayre's CP calculation website: asayre.mygamesonline.org/HotRoptimisation/CPOptimisation.html#)

    This was very helpful for my magicka warden, thank you :)
  • Irylia
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    Hey everyone,

    I need some advice on my PVP build please. Been all over the net looking for answers for correct allocation and max damage but was left with more questions than answers, so the best things is to ask you the players who have experience in dishing out the hurt.

    This is my build: Duel wield Magica High Elf Sorc (Max CP)

    Front bar: Rune Prison, Crystal Frag, Endless Fury, Structured Entropy, Haunted Curse, Soul assault

    Sets are: (Gold) War Maiden and Shackle (Monster sets up for suggestion)

    How would you allocate CP to the following tree for the most damage possible? (Bear in mind that the above skills are all magica based and want my magica damage to hit like a truck)

    The Ritual
    The Atronach
    The Apprentice

    All inputs and suggestion will be most welcome.

    20-22% master at arms
    20% elfborn
    10-12% elem expert
    3k pen

    Sorcs don’t do thaum damage

    Two max mag monster pieces. Domihaus and infernal guardian. Or add mag recovery pieces depending on sustain needed.
    Atro if struggling with resources
    Apprentice for damage because you arent running inner light or meteor to amp mage mundus more.

    It is possible to run defensive rune back bar because it will instantly stun off of cc immunity and can be cast prior to an enemy being off cc immune. The one downfall is it can’t be targeted to a specific enemy during 1vx. What it does is allow you to run inner light for more mag and crit on front bar since your goal as dw is to hit hard and be done fast.

    Beserk enchant on resto infused
    Oblivion and mag absorb enchant on swords. Or an absorb Stam over oblivion. Some more resources on heavies even light aa
  • dpencil1
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    @Lord_Etrigan
    Yeah, let's break it down. ANY skill that does damage ONE time per cast (also including Haunting Curse) is DIRECT damage. ANY skill that does damage MULTIPLE times per cast is DAMAGE OVER TIME. Master at Arms effects all Direct Damage and Thaumaturge effects all Damage Over Time. Out of th skills you listed, only Soul Assault would benefit from Thaumaturge.

    Also, just because a skill costs Magicka does NOT mean it does Magic Damage. Endless Fury, for example, does Lightning Damage, so won't benefit from War Maiden's buff. You need to read the tooltip to see what kind of damage a skill does. Frags, Curse, and Soul Assault do Magic Damage, so you're good there.
    Edited by dpencil1 on December 4, 2017 2:33PM
  • Lord_Etrigan
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    dpencil1 wrote: »
    @Lord_Etrigan
    Yeah, let's break it down. ANY skill that does damage ONE time per cast (also including Haunting Curse) is DIRECT damage. ANY skill that does damage MULTIPLE times per cast is DAMAGE OVER TIME. Master at Arms effects all Direct Damage and Thaumaturge effects all Damage Over Time. Out of th skills you listed, only Soul Assault would benefit from Thaumaturge.

    Also, just because a skill costs Magicka does NOT mean it does Magic Damage. Endless Fury, for example, does Lightning Damage, so won't benefit from War Maiden's buff. You need to read the tooltip to see what kind of damage a skill does. Frags, Curse, and Soul Assault do Magic Damage, so you're good there.

    Hi thanks for the clarification, it opens doors to so many options for boosting my build and damage.

    Here is a pic of my stats.

    20io99.jpgvia Imgflip Meme Generator

    I had to wait to take the screen shot as I was EMP and needed to be dethroned first.
    PS4 EU
    Lord Etrigan (Former Emperor): PVE High Elf Sorcerer
    Nyssa al Ghul: PVP Nightblade Wood Elf (Ganker)
    Lady-Death : PVP High Elf Sorcerer (8 x Campaigns Former Empress and Grand Warlord) Retired:(
    Achmed-Silence I keel you: PVP Dark Elf Nightblade (Suicide Bomber)
    I'm with stupid: PVP Argonian Magic Temp (Group support and healer).

    Guild:
    The Order of Stolas (Founder and Guild Master)

    Faction: Aldmeri Dominion

    Her Royal Highness Queen Ayrenn Arana wants You for Dominion.
    LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!
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