Mount Issues With Non-Flat Terrain

Apache_Kid · October 2017

Since I have been playing this game it has been plagued by a bug that slows down your mount from full sprint if you try to traverse any sort of area that isn't totally flat. This is especially annoying in Cyrodiil where hardly any of the terrain is flat and I find my mount slowing down out of sprint multiple times while on my way to anywhere. Why hasn't this been fixed? Is it intended that these animals are not equipped to handle the strains of moving over a small mound of dirt without slowing down?

Rickter · October 2017

i remember a time when horses could traverse terrain smoothly. They added something in an early early patch about havign their feet connect to the ground more realistically and all of a sudden they started getting stuck on blades of grass.

Uriel_Nocturne · October 2017

I noticed; for supposedly "agile" large cats, my Senche get stuck on a lot of little pebbles in their path...

Apache_Kid · October 2017

Rickter wrote: »

i remember a time when horses could traverse terrain smoothly. They added something in an early early patch about havign their feet connect to the ground more realistically and all of a sudden they started getting stuck on blades of grass.

Was before i was playing. Thank you. Good to know this hasn't always been an issue but bad to know that it is an issue they caused with a "fix"

theamazingx · October 2017

Just spamming the sprint button is a tedious but effective solution. Requires maxxed mount stam to last long, though. Even on flat terrain it’ll get your mount outrunning anyone else.

Mojmir · October 2017

Been saying this forever

Apache_Kid · October 2017

Mojmir wrote: »

Been saying this forever

yes i know there have been other threads about this but i haven't seen one in a long time and i feel like its good to remind them of things like this that remain broken for months/years at at time.

Rohamad_Ali · October 2017

My cat is always like "oh ya here we go on a adventure yeah ..OH Look ! A Penny !" , every 50 yards .

Moloch1514 · October 2017

Been this way since around the time Wrothgar came out. Makes Cyrodiil Horse simulator very frustrating lol.

Rickter · October 2017

my guildies swear the dwarven spider has little to no issues. I think they are zos spies trying to promote crown sales

Apache_Kid · October 2017

Wow it's almost as if this issue has been affecting everyone for almost 2 years and there hasn't been a fix? Can anyone from ZoS comment on this and at least acknowledge this is something you are aware of and looking into?

Apache_Kid · November 2017

Still waiting on whether or not this was an intended change to the way mounts traverse non-flat terrain 2 years ago, or if it is a bug that has just been around for that long?

Apache_Kid · November 2017

Still waiting on whether or not this issue has been looked at and if its something that can be fixed or not. Can't imagine it was an intended change. Side-effect of another change that hasn't been looked into perhaps? Any sort of information would be nice.

TheRealPotoroo · November 2017

Rickter wrote: »

my guildies swear the dwarven spider has little to no issues. I think they are zos spies trying to promote crown sales

The dwarven spider mount has smaller contact boxes so it doesn't get stopped by stupidly tiny things as often. Horses seem the worst affected, big cats not so much. The devs say they can't replicate it no matter how many people complain for how many years which is just further proof they don't even play their own game.

Apache_Kid · November 2017

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

my guildies swear the dwarven spider has little to no issues. I think they are zos spies trying to promote crown sales

The dwarven spider mount has smaller contact boxes so it doesn't get stopped by stupidly tiny things as often. Horses seem the worst affected, big cats not so much. The devs say they can't replicate it no matter how many people complain for how many years which is just further proof they don't even play their own game.

LMAO please tell me you are joking. They did not actually say they can't replicate it. That sounds insane to me. It happens ALL THE TIME. No joke if I had known that about the dwarven spider had less issues with this i would've purchased it without hesitation.

Moloch1514 · November 2017

This is one of the most annoying bugs that has persisted for years now. Maybe this is priming us for a 10,000 Crown mount that hovers just off the ground lol!

Nestor · November 2017

The Multi leg and feline mounts don't have this issue, at least as bad.

I wonder if the Inverse Kinetics Option only applies to the character or does it apply to the mount too?

Apache_Kid · November 2017

Nestor wrote: »

The Multi leg and feline mounts don't have this issue, at least as bad.

I wonder if the Inverse Kinetics Option only applies to the character or does it apply to the mount too?

I think I have a senche mount going to try that. I don't want to use the nix-Ox lol.

czar · November 2017

Nestor wrote: »

I wonder if the Inverse Kinetics Option only applies to the character or does it apply to the mount too?

It applies to mounts, too.

Mystrius_Archaion · December 2017

Rickter wrote: »

i remember a time when horses could traverse terrain smoothly. They added something in an early early patch about havign their feet connect to the ground more realistically and all of a sudden they started getting stuck on blades of grass.

Welcome to "foot inverse kinematics" setting. They forced it on mounts and then altered it back before they added it to player characters as an option in settings. It doesn't even work right on player characters, and looks unnatural, so I keep it off.
They should just remove that coding until they can do it right some other way.

The problem seems to stem from them trying to map the feet to the terrain with as little "clipping with terrain" as possible, but that is impossible since the mount will always clip with the edge of the terrain change area. So, the mount stops and adjusts immediately when a terrain change is detected, which slows it down. They chose this over allowing the mount speed to make it painfully obvious how much clipping can happen with how fast mounts can move.

Edit:
You cannot turn off inverse kinematics for mounts. It is always on.

Apache_Kid · December 2017

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

i remember a time when horses could traverse terrain smoothly. They added something in an early early patch about havign their feet connect to the ground more realistically and all of a sudden they started getting stuck on blades of grass.

Welcome to "foot inverse kinematics" setting. They forced it on mounts and then altered it back before they added it to player characters as an option in settings. It doesn't even work right on player characters, and looks unnatural, so I keep it off.
They should just remove that coding until they can do it right some other way.

The problem seems to stem from them trying to map the feet to the terrain with as little "clipping with terrain" as possible, but that is impossible since the mount will always clip with the edge of the terrain change area. So, the mount stops and adjusts immediately when a terrain change is detected, which slows it down. They chose this over allowing the mount speed to make it painfully obvious how much clipping can happen with how fast mounts can move.

Edit:
You cannot turn off inverse kinematics for mounts. It is always on.

Well this makes sense. At least I know to stop asking if its a bug or not as it's clearly intended even though it's stupid.