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Graphics card heating up more now?

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After the latest update now my GPU keeps heating up way more than it used to when playing ESO. I dont have water cooled GPU but it still used to be around 54-60c/129-140f
Now it tends to be 70-85c/158-185f (85c being THE VERY LIMIT YOU SHOULD EVER ALLOW IT TO BE AT)
That is a big jump, I was first worried that my GPU's fan had broken but tried booting up other games and still on same old heat levels with the card.
Anyone else notice this or had issue with this before?
I run simple high settings and still have solid 60fps, used to be able to run ultra but after Morrowind that went away.

GPU is GTX970 just putting that out.
  • SiliconShadow
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    I have 55'c temps in overlock mode on my gtx1080, they haven't gone up recently. Maybe a driver change?

    (Also this should be in the technical forum)
  • Balamoor
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    Piraja27 wrote: »
    After the latest update now my GPU keeps heating up way more than it used to when playing ESO. I dont have water cooled GPU but it still used to be around 54-60c/129-140f
    Now it tends to be 70-85c/158-185f (85c being THE VERY LIMIT YOU SHOULD EVER ALLOW IT TO BE AT)
    That is a big jump, I was first worried that my GPU's fan had broken but tried booting up other games and still on same old heat levels with the card.
    Anyone else notice this or had issue with this before?
    I run simple high settings and still have solid 60fps, used to be able to run ultra but after Morrowind that went away.

    GPU is GTX970 just putting that out.

    970's have a history if running hot once they get a couple years under their belts, also some cards in this model (MSI for one) disables the fans until the temp gets to about 62C, you might want to take a look at your fan controls in your Bios.

    Hope this helps.
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Piraja27 wrote: »
    After the latest update now my GPU keeps heating up way more than it used to when playing ESO. I dont have water cooled GPU but it still used to be around 54-60c/129-140f
    Now it tends to be 70-85c/158-185f (85c being THE VERY LIMIT YOU SHOULD EVER ALLOW IT TO BE AT)
    That is a big jump, I was first worried that my GPU's fan had broken but tried booting up other games and still on same old heat levels with the card.
    Anyone else notice this or had issue with this before?
    I run simple high settings and still have solid 60fps, used to be able to run ultra but after Morrowind that went away.

    GPU is GTX970 just putting that out.

    970's have a history if running hot once they get a couple years under their belts, also some cards in this model (MSI for one) disables the fans until the temp gets to about 62C, you might want to take a look at your fan controls in your Bios.

    Hope this helps.

    This is good advice. (Wahey, Balamoor and I agree on something.) Check your fan cutoffs and everything related to it.

    Also, a bit of a home remedy I tend to enjoy: If your PC casing has a front vent for intake fans, go to the dollar store, buy a desk fan, set it in front of it. Set it on high. I personally used this as an alternative after replacing my intake fans for the 5th *** time, never had a problem since and my temps are fine. (Then again, I have a RX 480 and it's target temp is 80 C by default.)

    However, I will say, that this isn't new. This game has allways had weird optimization issues. It's this game that actually burned out my old PC because of the heat destribution. The game is bottlenecked, meaning your GPU might be overworking itself trying to force *** through the CPU. There's a million different things, and this is generally why I avoid PC gaming nowadays.
    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on November 30, 2017 6:54PM
  • PlagueSD
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    When was the last time you blew the dust out of the heat sinks on your video cards. Dust is a GREAT insulator and is one of the major causes of temp changes...

    I actually open up and blow the inside of my computer out every year (spring cleaning). I usually run around 150F on both my GTX660 cards.

    During the summer months. I'll blow air into the front of my case (I can remove the front filter and air blows directly on my hard drives. With exhaust fans in the back and top, air flow is not an issue for me.
  • ArchMikem
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    That bit about the 970, great. Now i might need to expedite my new computer thinking a little more now.
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  • Kanar
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Piraja27 wrote: »
    After the latest update now my GPU keeps heating up way more than it used to when playing ESO. I dont have water cooled GPU but it still used to be around 54-60c/129-140f
    Now it tends to be 70-85c/158-185f (85c being THE VERY LIMIT YOU SHOULD EVER ALLOW IT TO BE AT)
    That is a big jump, I was first worried that my GPU's fan had broken but tried booting up other games and still on same old heat levels with the card.
    Anyone else notice this or had issue with this before?
    I run simple high settings and still have solid 60fps, used to be able to run ultra but after Morrowind that went away.

    GPU is GTX970 just putting that out.

    970's have a history if running hot once they get a couple years under their belts, also some cards in this model (MSI for one) disables the fans until the temp gets to about 62C, you might want to take a look at your fan controls in your Bios.

    Hope this helps.

    This is good advice. (Wahey, Balamoor and I agree on something.) Check your fan cutoffs and everything related to it.

    Also, a bit of a home remedy I tend to enjoy: If your PC casing has a front vent for intake fans, go to the dollar store, buy a desk fan, set it in front of it. Set it on high. I personally used this as an alternative after replacing my intake fans for the 5th *** time, never had a problem since and my temps are fine. (Then again, I have a RX 480 and it's target temp is 80 C by default.)

    However, I will say, that this isn't new. This game has allways had weird optimization issues. It's this game that actually burned out my old PC because of the heat destribution. The game is bottlenecked, meaning your GPU might be overworking itself trying to force *** through the CPU. There's a million different things, and this is generally why I avoid PC gaming nowadays.

    A CPU bottleneck (which most people agree eso suffers from) would cause your gpu to be underutilized. In other words, it would have less stress/workload. Now, eso is more sensitive to gpu overclocks from personal experience, but that just means the overclock is not fully stable.

    If your old PC "burned out" from playing eso, it's your fault for not sufficiently cooling the CPU or for overvolting it in an amateur overclock attempt.
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    You probably need to blow out the cooler fan on your GPU.
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  • Tandor
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    If you change your graphics drivers regularly then I'd certainly roll back a driver or two and see if that helps, as well as cleaning out any dust accumulation in your machine. Personally, I never update drivers unless I have a problem with the existing ones. If it ain't broke, I don't fix it!
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    i've burned through 2 GPU fans and a broke a keyboard playing EsO. Am I a real gamer now?

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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    i've burned through 2 GPU fans and a broke a keyboard playing EsO. Am I a real gamer now?

    PvP sometimes make me worried for my keyboard, but it's mechanical and has withstood the abuse pretty well.
  • Orange_fire_dragon
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    Thanks for the suggestions, I tried dusting off the GPU and as said any other games run in same temps they always used to.
    Havent tried drivers yet, so lets see.
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    Hmmm... Athough I no longer play ESO on my PC, I do recall my previous PS4 sometimes starting to sound like a fighter jet when playing ESO. And how it would begin getting rather warm at times. Once I switched to a PS4 Pro, all those issues then disappeared — for the most part. The only game which seems to make my system get loud nowadays appears to be Nioh: The Complete Edition. And even then, it eventually quiets down after a while.
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    Balamoor wrote: »
    Piraja27 wrote: »
    After the latest update now my GPU keeps heating up way more than it used to when playing ESO. I dont have water cooled GPU but it still used to be around 54-60c/129-140f
    Now it tends to be 70-85c/158-185f (85c being THE VERY LIMIT YOU SHOULD EVER ALLOW IT TO BE AT)
    That is a big jump, I was first worried that my GPU's fan had broken but tried booting up other games and still on same old heat levels with the card.
    Anyone else notice this or had issue with this before?
    I run simple high settings and still have solid 60fps, used to be able to run ultra but after Morrowind that went away.

    GPU is GTX970 just putting that out.

    970's have a history if running hot once they get a couple years under their belts


    That doesn't make a lot of sense considering the card is only 3 years old. There hasn't been much time to build up a "history" on cards that are a "couple years old".

    And heating issues are manufacturer-related, not series-related.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on December 1, 2017 3:22AM
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    They have been changing the graphics load compared to the CPU load in recent patches to help with city FPS.
  • Streega
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    It's not the fans or a dust, I have freshly cleaned PC (new box and fans), and my CPU load has increased. @Narvuntien is right.
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  • Ermiq
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    In the most part of modern games our graphics cards load is 99%, the average frequency of the graphics crystal and the memory is maxed out.
    Maximum GPU load is an obvious situation. Every GPU is designed for this.
    Sometimes GPU load is not at max. It happens when CPU is bottleneck, or VSync is on, or fps is high enough and GPU doesn't need to work harder. In MMOs it also happens in big cities, both CPU and GPU load are going down (don't know why).
    But if your GPU can't handle the maximum load mode then something wrong with your GPU.
    Piraja27 wrote: »
    I run simple high settings and still have solid 60fps, used to be able to run ultra but after Morrowind that went away.
    Hmm... You have VSync turned on, 970 is pretty fast for 60fps in ESO, so it isn't loaded to the max. And it didn't.
    Seems like after some updates there was something that increased GPU load and now it must work harder to give you 60 fps.
    Edited by Ermiq on December 1, 2017 7:20AM
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    use coolling pad
  • Orange_fire_dragon
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    Eremith wrote: »
    In the most part of modern games our graphics cards load is 99%, the average frequency of the graphics crystal and the memory is maxed out.
    Maximum GPU load is an obvious situation. Every GPU is designed for this.
    Sometimes GPU load is not at max. It happens when CPU is bottleneck, or VSync is on, or fps is high enough and GPU doesn't need to work harder. In MMOs it also happens in big cities, both CPU and GPU load are going down (don't know why).
    But if your GPU can't handle the maximum load mode then something wrong with your GPU.
    Piraja27 wrote: »
    I run simple high settings and still have solid 60fps, used to be able to run ultra but after Morrowind that went away.
    Hmm... You have VSync turned on, 970 is pretty fast for 60fps in ESO, so it isn't loaded to the max. And it didn't.
    Seems like after some updates there was something that increased GPU load and now it must work harder to give you 60 fps.

    The problem is that going 85c is quite the limit it ever should goto, it can handle that but risk of burning it increases a lot.
    This wasn't the case last week with ESO and now it is. I tried running other games like Overwatch, Skyrim SE, PUBG, The Forest. Temp limits were exactly what they used to be, nothing had changed with those just ESO after last update patch.

    And with Morrowind note, I started ESO couple months before Morrowind and it automatically just set my graphic settings to ultra, still does if I delete INI file. I rolled with it, ran 60 fps with very minimal fps drop, Morrowind rolls out and nope 60 fps was hard to have anywhere. I don't care as long the game runs fine and looks ok, high looks good and plays well. Just very worried about the temp limits. I forced the fans to run much faster to get that old 60c, rig def makes much more noise now.
  • Orange_fire_dragon
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    altemriel wrote: »
    use coolling pad

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    Just had this issue with one of my PCs so I took out the card, (don't do this unless you know how) opened it up and found that the cooling pads under the shell were kind of melting an oil like substance onto the card, I am guessing it was the result of extreme heat on the adhesive of the pads. So I cleaned it up gently with a q-tip before removing the heat sync and cleaning off/reapplying thermal paste to the gpu. Hasn't run this quiet in years. Also I found that there was a nice thick winter blanket of dust between the gpu fan and heat sync that was probably blocking off 90% of the airflow, which wasn't visible with the shell on.
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  • SickDuck
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    Not sure if related, but after the latest big Win10 update ESO performance got horrible. It does not seem to be only ESO though.
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    i've burned through 2 GPU fans and a broke a keyboard playing EsO. Am I a real gamer now?

    Only if that happened as a result of over-clocking :wink: !

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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    i've burned through 2 GPU fans and a broke a keyboard playing EsO. Am I a real gamer now?

    Haven't destoyed any gpu's yet but I'm on my 3rd keyboard - I think we're gamers now :wink:
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    lardvader wrote: »
    vamp_emily wrote: »
    i've burned through 2 GPU fans and a broke a keyboard playing EsO. Am I a real gamer now?

    Haven't destoyed any gpu's yet but I'm on my 3rd keyboard - I think we're gamers now :wink:

    Nah, when you've been through 20-30 keyboards you're a gamer. Or maybe just an old gamer, I forget which. :D

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  • Orange_fire_dragon
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    SickDuck wrote: »
    Not sure if related, but after the latest big Win10 update ESO performance got horrible. It does not seem to be only ESO though.

    I have Windows 8.1 instead of 10
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