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Skins For Apex Rewards? Deadass ZOS?

  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Thinking about it, I wish I could somehow enter the Metaverse like in Persona 5

    I'd rather have JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Stands / character Persona, as summonable/craftable battle partner for ESO IMO.

    I can imagine it now...in my mind space;

    Out in the middle of Cyro, a chance encounter with an enemy, we spat few words then scream at the top of our lungs to summon our battle partner to fight with us as we duel.

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    Oooohh the dream <3
  • ParaNostram
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Capitalism, amirite? Ruining our favorite games. It can't just be about creating a good game that performs well and hoping it sells on those merits no, ZOS gotta make the team pump out these exploitative cash grabs left and right while the game's bugs get out of hand and and it's performance and balance suffers. They don't even hire enough people to run the game adequately but they keep making the limited staff work on this garbage!

    Game could be much better if the company and investors weren't such greedy capitalists.

    It's not "capitalism" it's greedy folk in tailored suits, and those do exist outside of capitalistic avenues. The folk who are never satisfied, always want more. Always at the expense of the gullible, and the wallet-loose.

    You do realize that is the kind of behavior that Capitalism rewards and offers incentive to, right? Listen you can believe it's a problem of just a few greedy folk in tailored suits if you want or you can realize that this is part of a larger systematic problem. It's not just ZOS doing these things, and ZOS isn't even the worst culprit, this is spread across the whole industry.

    Then if you would like to widen your gaze, look at other industries and the kinds of exploitative practices that occur and how it's always at the hands of greedy folk in tailored suits. It's funny how these are the people who always seem to be the ones at the helm, always the ones on top with the power dictating how the industry will be and they always dictate with one goal in mind - more money from our pockets needs to end up in their pockets.

    But yeah when issues like this are rampant in the industry and issues worse than this are spread across any industry you can point your finger at, you can choose to believe it's just a few greedy folk in tailored suits if you want and not the result of Capitalism offering incentive to exploitative cashgrabs.
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  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Who cares

    Skins mean nothing.
  • Alchemical
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    I thought it might look nice on my DK, then I previewed it. Gotta agree the Blood-Forged looks much better. Will probably pick it up when my sub renews.

    Everything in the crates this season looks like absolute garbage. Might use my pitty gems from the free boxes to pick up the new hairstyle, just in case I ever wanna look like a cockatoo, but that's it.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Alchemical wrote: »
    I thought it might look nice on my DK, then I previewed it. Gotta agree the Blood-Forged looks much better. Will probably pick it up when my sub renews.

    Everything in the crates this season looks like absolute garbage. Might use my pitty gems from the free boxes to pick up the new hairstyle, just in case I ever wanna look like a cockatoo, but that's it.

    True... But, the Ice Wolf mount n' puppy? Beautiful.
  • Kuramas9tails
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    Voxicity wrote: »
    Skin is awful anyway

    I love it! Reminds me of a tiger. I can't be a bis magic khajiit so cat mask? Check. Tiger stripes? Check. Senche mount? Check. Cat pet? Check. All the cats.
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    • Kuramas9tails
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      As someone else said, mount? Skin? No difference. I wanted that frost senate from Reaper Crates but didn't get it. Oh well. :o A frost skin would be cool though. :*
      Edited by Kuramas9tails on November 29, 2017 6:06PM
        Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
        New PSN name: SundariTheLast. Proud seller in RedEye Empire, PURPLE GANG and Backalley Trading.
        AD High Elf Mageblade DPS (General)(Former Empress) -- Stormproof/VMOL, VHOF, VDSA completion
        AD Khajiit Mageblade DPS -- Flawless Conquerer
        FOR THE QUEEN!
        PS4/NA
      • Rouven
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        I'd eat a lot more cereal if they would put skins in my cereal. Like someone tell Cadwell's Cornflakes or Lyris Crispix.

        Not skins doh, codes for skins. Don't eat the paper.
        Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. ~ Terry Pratchett
      • drkfrontiers
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        In all the time crates have been in the game I have only ever opened the free crates, and honestly I'm feeling no angst at all.
        "One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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      • N0TPLAYER2
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        Didn't you defend buying houses that cost $150 by saying you drop a thousand a night taking your wife out for drinks?

        Its people like you who caused this by being a whale. People who ate up all that they had to offer (you) are the reasons crates exist and why they're flourishing. People who "have to have it all" are why good stuff (mounts, skins) are locked behind crate pay walls.

        It may be sad, but it's true.
      • Girl_Number8
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        I don't see the problem. :/ They could put the vmol skin in there for all I care. Too many bad players get carried or pay for the skins anyway. Then you have even worse players selling the skin. So they are worthless as far as an achievement.

        For me the best achievement is the friendships I have formed and the peeps I play with everyday. :)

        Btw they put a certain motif book in there that was a nice slap in the face. It hurt a bit so I understand but meh.
      • sly007
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        Couldn't agree more. The crown creates are getting worse. Sadly, many will support it because it is their money and they can do whatever they want with it, regardless of the worth.

        The crown crates, like many have said in the past, will be detrimental to many players with gambling difficulties.
      • Gargath
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        That skin is really ugly. I got mine from a free crate but I dont think I'm going to wear it.
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        I think it looks awesome, but I'm still far away from being able to afford it. I got 43 gems. Awaiting new batch of free crates. Thanks ZOS for last 4 crates, you are awesome to give this for free again :).

        In preview the skin looks badass on my muscle male Argonian healer and I just imagine getting the same looking flame atronach guar mount. If I only had 800 free gems :( .

        PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."
      • Girl_Number8
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        This is from the same company that thinks it's ok to charge 45$ EACH for gimped banker and merchant followers.

        That's right. The cost of almost AN ENTIRE XBOX GAME, where the pricepoint is what covers the developers and publishers for the MILLIONS they sank into making a game, for two followers with simple pacman AI and one portion of the UI for their respective functions.

        That should be CRIMINAL.

        Yes, the merch and banker should have been updated. If the banker actually allowed players to interact with their guildstores I would buy one. Though this is ZoS logic, smh. :*
      • Alchemical
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        Ch4mpTW wrote: »
        Alchemical wrote: »
        I thought it might look nice on my DK, then I previewed it. Gotta agree the Blood-Forged looks much better. Will probably pick it up when my sub renews.

        Everything in the crates this season looks like absolute garbage. Might use my pitty gems from the free boxes to pick up the new hairstyle, just in case I ever wanna look like a cockatoo, but that's it.

        True... But, the Ice Wolf mount n' puppy? Beautiful.

        I wouldn't mind having them for my werewolf, so I can have a white dog who summons white dogs that rides a white dog with a pet white dog. But I might go snowblind. Plus, I got the sick Doomwolf from LEGENDS and goth wolves are way cooler.
      • Ch4mpTW
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        N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
        Didn't you defend buying houses that cost $150 by saying you drop a thousand a night taking your wife out for drinks?

        Its people like you who caused this by being a whale. People who ate up all that they had to offer (you) are the reasons crates exist and why they're flourishing. People who "have to have it all" are why good stuff (mounts, skins) are locked behind crate pay walls.

        It may be sad, but it's true.

        Yes, I did defend buying houses. I also defended treating my broad to a night out, if I feel like doing something special for her. Yup. I sure did.

        As for it being my fault for being a whale? Excuse me? How is it my fault, that ZOS chooses to put skins in gamble crates? Are you kidding me? Don’t pull that “it’s your fault for being financially blessed” crap on me. N’ah. I have earned every single penny to my name. Worked hard. Real hard for it all. So please, bruh. Let’s not open that box. Wrong place, and wrong time.

        I never once defended gamble/scam crates. Nor did I ever encourage people to indulge in them. But, what I did do was pick-up things from the Crown Store whenever I had tons of crowns at my expense. And how did I acquire such high amounts of crowns? By being smart, and buying crowns on sale in large quantities. By not spending my monthly amount of crowns given to me for being a subscriber to ESO+. That’s how.

        So n’ah. Do not sit there, and place blame on me or anyone like me for being financially blessed and stable. It is far from our fault that a company like ZOS is practicing predatory behavior. And that’s facts, b. Tell me, is my fault that Louis Vuitton charges hundreds and thousands of dollars for leather goods? Is it my fault that Jimmy Choo choose to price the heels my broad wears in the hundreds? Is it my fault that Spyker and Gumpert cars cost 6 figures? C’mon bruh. Stop being foolish.
      • LadyNalcarya
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        Gargath wrote: »
        That skin is really ugly. I got mine from a free crate but I dont think I'm going to wear it.
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        I think it looks awesome, but I'm still far away from being able to afford it. I got 43 gems. Awaiting new batch of free crates. Thanks ZOS for last 4 crates, you are awesome to give this for free again :).

        In preview the skin looks badass on my muscle male Argonian healer and I just imagine getting the same looking flame atronach guar mount. If I only had 800 free gems :( .

        Well Id trade the skin for those gems tbh. :D
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      • ParaNostram
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        Ch4mpTW wrote: »
        N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
        Didn't you defend buying houses that cost $150 by saying you drop a thousand a night taking your wife out for drinks?

        Its people like you who caused this by being a whale. People who ate up all that they had to offer (you) are the reasons crates exist and why they're flourishing. People who "have to have it all" are why good stuff (mounts, skins) are locked behind crate pay walls.

        It may be sad, but it's true.

        So n’ah. Do not sit there, and place blame on me or anyone like me for being financially blessed and stable. It is far from our fault that a company like ZOS is practicing predatory behavior. And that’s facts, b. Tell me, is my fault that Louis Vuitton charges hundreds and thousands of dollars for leather goods? Is it my fault that Jimmy Choo choose to price the heels my broad wears in the hundreds? Is it my fault that Spyker and Gumpert cars cost 6 figures? C’mon bruh. Stop being foolish.

        The things the rich spend their money on hurts my soul. Most of my friends live on a budget under $1k a month and that's for rent, bills, everything, some of the hardest working people I've ever met.
        "Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."

        Para Nostram
        Bosmer Sorceress
        Witch of Evermore

        "Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
        Order of the Black Worm
      • Girl_Number8
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        Ch4mpTW wrote: »
        N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
        Didn't you defend buying houses that cost $150 by saying you drop a thousand a night taking your wife out for drinks?

        Its people like you who caused this by being a whale. People who ate up all that they had to offer (you) are the reasons crates exist and why they're flourishing. People who "have to have it all" are why good stuff (mounts, skins) are locked behind crate pay walls.

        It may be sad, but it's true.

        my broad

        You're a real night in shining armor there aren't ya. Yeah, I would be drinking with someone else on the town after being called "my broad".

      • Ch4mpTW
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        Ch4mpTW wrote: »
        N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
        Didn't you defend buying houses that cost $150 by saying you drop a thousand a night taking your wife out for drinks?

        Its people like you who caused this by being a whale. People who ate up all that they had to offer (you) are the reasons crates exist and why they're flourishing. People who "have to have it all" are why good stuff (mounts, skins) are locked behind crate pay walls.

        It may be sad, but it's true.

        my broad

        You're a real night in shining armor there aren't ya. Yeah, I would be drinking with someone else on the town after being called "my broad".

        That’s fine. That’s you, and whoever it is that agrees with you. As I keep saying, I’m not here to try and date or impress anyone of the opposite sex on these forums. This a video game forum that I use to discuss things involving the game at hand. In this case, ESO. If I happen to intrigue someone, yeah. That’s cool. If not? Okay, cool. I’m the type of guy who says things how they are. Of course if I was at a formal outting, and amongst those of class? Then without a doubt I’d be more mindful of my words. I wouldn’t be using words like “bruh” or “fam” or “deadass”. This is a video game forum. IDGAF about being a “knight in shining armor” here.

        Lmao. Some of you all apart of these forums are hilarious with how serious you all are apart the character traits of those you encounter on the Internet. If you’re this serious and up in a frenzy over a bit of slang on the net, then I know you must be a real trip out in the real world.
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        Ch4mpTW wrote: »
        N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
        Didn't you defend buying houses that cost $150 by saying you drop a thousand a night taking your wife out for drinks?

        Its people like you who caused this by being a whale. People who ate up all that they had to offer (you) are the reasons crates exist and why they're flourishing. People who "have to have it all" are why good stuff (mounts, skins) are locked behind crate pay walls.

        It may be sad, but it's true.

        my broad

        You're a real night in shining armor there aren't ya. Yeah, I would be drinking with someone else on the town after being called "my broad".

        Don't mind him. He's special.

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      • ArvenAldmeri
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        Out of all you could have complained about you complain about this? xD Why not complain about how terrible textures the mounts have? As my guildmaster Woeler said they look like "ornage mounts with rocks glued to them" or something in that sense. To pay for that is ridicolous. I cant even complain about the skin because it turned out to be as ugly as the low textures on the mounts, especially the face (only argonian looks somewhat decent). Luckily for me after spending over 130 euro on those crates I dropped the ice mount (so far the only rare mount from this season I have seen around). Still, the drop rate of legendary and purple items is terrible. I dropped basically 3 Apex mounts from buying 72 crates + the 3 free (those free had only crap in them). And the rng is overall so weird. I compare now to drops of my bf who got apex mount from the free crate and another apex mount from one of the 15 he bought, and that was all he bought. Thats really *** RNG imho and really something to complain about. Not really about *** skin locked behind 400 gems. If I drop it cool, my argonian can have it, but if I dont drop it I dont bother, just too ugly in face.
        Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
        Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.
      • Ch4mpTW
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        Out of all you could have complained about you complain about this? xD Why not complain about how terrible textures the mounts have? As my guildmaster Woeler said they look like "ornage mounts with rocks glued to them" or something in that sense. To pay for that is ridicolous. I cant even complain about the skin because it turned out to be as ugly as the low textures on the mounts, especially the face (only argonian looks somewhat decent). Luckily for me after spending over 130 euro on those crates I dropped the ice mount (so far the only rare mount from this season I have seen around). Still, the drop rate of legendary and purple items is terrible. I dropped basically 3 Apex mounts from buying 72 crates + the 3 free (those free had only crap in them). And the rng is overall so weird. I compare now to drops of my bf who got apex mount from the free crate and another apex mount from one of the 15 he bought, and that was all he bought. Thats really *** RNG imho and really something to complain about. Not really about *** skin locked behind 400 gems. If I drop it cool, my argonian can have it, but if I dont drop it I dont bother, just too ugly in face.

        Because as I mentioned previously, I find skins to be the tipping point for me. That’s why I made a thread about it. It was the straw that broke the camel’s back metaphorically speaking. And because of it, I won’t be supporting ESO (outside of my ESO+ sub) anymore. I’d rather take my cash to: Atlus, Square Enix, Bandai Namco, etc. instead of ZOS. And even then, once I get a Transmutation Station in my house? I’m pretty much cancelling my sub for ESO, as I doubt I’ll be able to juggle: Nioh, Pokémon Ultra Sun, Kingdom Hearts, GTA:O, .hack, and ESO on top of it all. Mind you, that’s not even what I have on my backlog. That’s just what I have on my current and daily “To-play List”.
      • ookami007
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        This batch of crates was a HUGE disappointment.

        As far as prices go... whatever. Either you buy it or you don't. If you find some value in it, I'm all for it. If you don't, more power (and money) to you.

        There are things I bought because they help a character concept I have. There are MANY things I've passed on because they are cool, but I just have better things to spend my money on.

        To each his own.
      • OutLaw_Nynx
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        Why do you keep coming to the forums then? You obviously have a huge issue with this game. I have issues but I don’t make threads about it. Think you need to take a break... again
      • Rawkan
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        It's a cosmetic item that means nothing. How people get this upset about something like that I will never understand.
      • Ihatenightblades
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        As a business man i can never hate on what zos is doing. If you are pushing out products at a expensive price and they still sellin like hot cakes why would you stop?

        now if the crown crates where making people not want to play the game then it would be a smart move overall to get rid of em.

        But when its like how it is now and everybody loves them theres no point in removing or even considering peoples rant about them to remove.

        And tbh all this money they making i hope they invest some of it on performance and stability and fps.
      • Waseem
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        Its players fault
        The vote is done by credit cards
      • Konstant_Tel_Necris
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        Here's how it looks like on argonians and elves if anyone is curious
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        On argonian its looks pretty well, other races have some problems with face mask.
      • Kay1
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        That skin is really ugly. I got mine from a free crate but I dont think I'm going to wear it.
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        Voxicity wrote: »
        Skin is awful anyway

        The blood-forged skin, looks so much better...

        Agreed. And the price tag is much more reasonable.

        What is that thing oh my god how much gems is worth when you sell it
        K1 The Big Monkey
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