exeeter702 wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »
You are confused. There is a very big difference between the discussion of current class balance and that of class / role diversity regarding viability.
I understand the difference, the case you are making is a distinction without a difference. it does not matter how you bin the issue, given class balance does not achieve parity between the group roles for different builds it does not matter. Whether you call it balance or build diversity the practical result is what it is, the classes / builds do not provide an even enough parity to allow effective swapping for tanking or DPS.
So I believe my point stands, remove the healing or make another class's healing even with Templar and there is no real point to the Templar.
My argument does fail as soon as the Templar class is arguably an effective DPS or tank to compete with the current DPS / tank classes, at which point I will happily drop my views on this.
Thats what i mean though, the game fluctuates all the time, there were many instances in this games lifespan where templar dps was rock solid. So the argument of wether or not templar has a point to existing when a stronger healer comes along doesnt really work since that variable happens all the time with other roles and classes.
Your initial comment suggested that you believe templars should be unrivaled as the difintive healer in this game when the truth is they were top healer for the longest time based on circumstance and not because the devs said templars are supposed to be the only real healer. Should the DK "class" be rendered pointless if and when zos decides to bolster the templar or sorcs tanking options to match or dare even surpass the dk in the role? What if stam dks are pushing 50k dps in that same patch / update?
Simply put, there are 5 healers in this game. It just so happens that 3 of them are noticably stronger than the other 2 at the moment. ZOS has already acknowledged this and you can rest assured your views will have to change going forward, just as they most likely changed back when templar dps was in a good spot, which just so happens to not be this current patch.
I agree that templars still make exceptional healers; in addition to their burst healing, and general reactive healing style, which is great for 'oh crap' moments, as mentioned above, they also have a class purge skill, that's also a HOT, a class stat regen skill, enemy debuff skills, a damage mitigation ulti that does big damage as well when synergized, and a couple of very big heals, that although channeled, can be great in certain situations. They also have a faster resurrection passive perk that coupled with Kagrenac's makes rezzing super quick, and that's very handy in PvP, and in things like the new AS trial. They are definitely still going strong, but now having played a warden healer, I think the two classes are very complementary, and would actually make a strong combination for a trial.
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