What's The Point of the Mages/Fighters/Undaunted Daily Quests?
Elephant42
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When you only ever get sent to the first zone in your faction - over and over and over again 
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✭✭✭✭✭Draugr Motif Pages
Little bit of extra Guild XP"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »They’re a really easy way to improve the skill line ...
Agonizingly slow way.
But, seriously, yeah, the draugr motif pages and style stones are the big draws. Also, for the time commitment, the payout isn't bad. Not particularly good, but not bad either.1 -
Rainraven✭✭✭✭✭Elephant42 wrote: »When you only ever get sent to the first zone in your faction - over and over and over again
What level is your character? Maybe it's an artifact from pre-1T days when a lower level would be unlikely to go into the other zones. Otherwise, maybe it's a bug. There was an update when surveys got bugged and would be for the same zone over and over again. It was convenient, but dull. They fixed it eventually.
edited for more clarity less gigglingEdited by Rainraven on November 25, 2017 8:13PM2 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Elephant42 wrote: »When you only ever get sent to the first zone in your faction - over and over and over again
Really? The MG sends you for the same artifact over and over again?
What level is your character? Maybe it's an artifact from pre-1T days when a lower level would be unlikely to go into the other zones. Otherwise, maybe it's a bug. There was an update when surveys got bugged and would be for the same zone over and over again. It was convenient, but dull. They fixed it eventually.
When you're below 50, it will cull your possible destinations based on what you would have had access to pre-One Tamriel. So, below level 15, and it's just your first zone. Below level 25 and it's your first two. Ect.
It might do the same if you're below CR100, but, I can't check that, obviously.
That said, these "pick one possible quest at random," can be prone to streaky behavior. If I get asked to go into those ******** ******* kennels one more ********** time, I will ******* **** **********!4 -
supaskrub✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »They’re a really easy way to improve the skill line ...
They’re a ridiculously slow and tedious way to improve the skill line ...
Fixed it for you
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Elephant42✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Elephant42 wrote: »When you only ever get sent to the first zone in your faction - over and over and over again
Really? The MG sends you for the same artifact over and over again?
What level is your character? Maybe it's an artifact from pre-1T days when a lower level would be unlikely to go into the other zones. Otherwise, maybe it's a bug. There was an update when surveys got bugged and would be for the same zone over and over again. It was convenient, but dull. They fixed it eventually.
When you're below 50, it will cull your possible destinations based on what you would have had access to pre-One Tamriel. So, below level 15, and it's just your first zone. Below level 25 and it's your first two. Ect.
It might do the same if you're below CR100, but, I can't check that, obviously.
That said, these "pick one possible quest at random," can be prone to streaky behavior. If I get asked to go into those ******** ******* kennels one more ********** time, I will ******* **** **********!
Many thanks to both of you for this info - it does mirror what I'm seeing, L23 now and got sent to Grahtwood for one of them today. It looks like I won't get sent to the other faction zones until after L50 - oh well...
Oh and BTW "streakyness" is one of the characteristics of a truly random system.
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Sordidfairytale✭✭✭✭✭Just so you know, you can share these dailies in a group, so it's possible to get 14 or 15 of these quests knocked out in a day.The Vegemite Knight0 -
Elephant42✭✭✭✭Sordidfairytale wrote: »Just so you know, you can share these dailies in a group, so it's possible to get 14 or 15 of these quests knocked out in a day.
I did know that - thanks all the same
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Rainraven✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Elephant42 wrote: »When you only ever get sent to the first zone in your faction - over and over and over again
Really? The MG sends you for the same artifact over and over again?
What level is your character? Maybe it's an artifact from pre-1T days when a lower level would be unlikely to go into the other zones. Otherwise, maybe it's a bug. There was an update when surveys got bugged and would be for the same zone over and over again. It was convenient, but dull. They fixed it eventually.
When you're below 50, it will cull your possible destinations based on what you would have had access to pre-One Tamriel. So, below level 15, and it's just your first zone. Below level 25 and it's your first two. Ect.
It might do the same if you're below CR100, but, I can't check that, obviously.
That said, these "pick one possible quest at random," can be prone to streaky behavior. If I get asked to go into those ******** ******* kennels one more ********** time, I will ******* **** **********! 0 -
disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I found the drop rate of motifs to be pretty low and gave up doing them.
Even now, doing Wrothgar dailies to complete my Trinimac motif collection and getting 2 rewards boxes at a time, I have had 2 motifs from about the last 30 boxes - neither of which I need.Australian on PS4 NA server.
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Elephant42✭✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »I found the drop rate of motifs to be pretty low and gave up doing them.
Even now, doing Wrothgar dailies to complete my Trinimac motif collection and getting 2 rewards boxes at a time, I have had 2 motifs from about the last 30 boxes - neither of which I need.
Par for the course I'm afraid - I'm nearly convinced that ZOS have somehow developed a "heuristic" RNG which knows precisely what you really, really want and weights _against_ it
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✭✭The dailies arent too bad for gold too. The containers you get are filled with potions and gear to sell. Theres also the bonus of the gear you get from the places you go. The drop rate is low for the motifs, but thats nothing new.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I mean, there's about a 1 in 30 chance of dropping Draugr motif pages, so they're really great for making you detest whomever sets droprates at ZOS."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Chance to drop Dragur motifs, also to increase those respective skill lines.Taleof2Cities wrote: »They’re a really easy way to improve the skill line ...
From what I know they only increase the undaunted, but not the mage's guild skill line.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Chance to drop Dragur motifs, also to increase those respective skill lines.Taleof2Cities wrote: »They’re a really easy way to improve the skill line ...
From what I know they only increase the undaunted, but not the mage's guild skill line.
Even so, it's a miserably long climb. From zero, it will take you something like five months to max out undaunted. Down from a little over eight months before. (With an extra 20 days tacked on the end now.)0 -
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✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Chance to drop Dragur motifs, also to increase those respective skill lines.Taleof2Cities wrote: »They’re a really easy way to improve the skill line ...
From what I know they only increase the undaunted, but not the mage's guild skill line.
Im pretty sure it does mages guild but it's really slow. Only know this because my mages guild leveled up once after I turned in a quest.0 -
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✭The mages guild quests helped me get the last bit of xp I needed to unlock meteor on my ps4 templar. They almost never drop any motif pages though. I wouldn't even bother to do the fighters guild ones as you can get that line done in a few hours just grinding dolmens in the alikir desert.1 -
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✭✭Elephant42 wrote: »When you only ever get sent to the first zone in your faction - over and over and over again
What level is your character? Maybe it's an artifact from pre-1T days when a lower level would be unlikely to go into the other zones. Otherwise, maybe it's a bug. There was an update when surveys got bugged and would be for the same zone over and over again. It was convenient, but dull. They fixed it eventually.
edited for more clarity less giggling
I think it came out with 1-TFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The Guilds send you to your faction zones for as long as you are leveling, a relic of pre-One Tamriel days that ZOS is not inclined to change. This includes things like the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood murder book quests.
Level up to CP 160 and that will change.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »It's funny that daily mission released for 1t use pre 1t logic
Probably developed to be released with... I guess Mirkmire. Then when ZOS dropped the hammer on 1T, the quests were implemented without serious overhaul.
I mean, I'm guessing. It's possible there's still a basic assumption that you'll progress through the zones in, roughly, the originally intended order; you simply have the freedom to go wherever you want if you choose.0
