Sorc - 7 light 5,1,1

x_t7ink_x · November 2017

I know raw stats 5,1,1 that looks better but all 7 lights increases crit and pen etc. Anyone done the stats on damage output....

Waffennacht · November 2017

Usually 5-1-1 is for undaunted passives resulting in bigger shield. So it's defensive, not offensive you should be considering.

Betsararie · November 2017

I'm not a math person as much as some around here, but have only seen 5-1-1 recommended for mag sorc this patch, and as far back as I can remember. Of course that is only if you can take advantage of undaunted mettle.

Personally have never heard of a case where 7 light is the best way to go for mag sorc.

ToRelax · November 2017

You get no crit / penetration bonus from equipping more than 5 light pieces.

ak_pvp · November 2017

5/1/1

idk · November 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Usually 5-1-1 is for undaunted passives resulting in bigger shield. So it's defensive, not offensive you should be considering.

While this person is correct about 5-1-1, the reasoning is not correct. Yes, shields would be ever so slightly larger but the real reason for 5-1-1 is the increased damage from the additional magicka and provides the added benefit of an additional 2% more health from the Juggernaut passive in HA.

Nothing in the light armor line increases damage past 5 pc unlike medium armor which continues to increase critical chance for each piece worn past 5.

5-1-1 is common in all magicka builds as long as they are wearing gear that provides this option.

Waffennacht · November 2017

idk wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Usually 5-1-1 is for undaunted passives resulting in bigger shield. So it's defensive, not offensive you should be considering.

While this person is correct about 5-1-1, the reasoning is not correct. Yes, shields would be ever so slightly larger but the real reason for 5-1-1 is the increased damage from the additional magicka and provides the added benefit of an additional 2% more health from the Juggernaut passive in HA.

Nothing in the light armor line increases damage past 5 pc unlike medium armor which continues to increase critical chance for each piece worn past 5.

5-1-1 is common in all magicka builds as long as they are wearing gear that provides this option.

Doesn't more pieces mean greater mag Regen and greater reduced cost, resulting in more abilities i.e. less heavy attacks resulting in greater dps numbers?

Edit: and if we're talking PvE, max health is meaningless on a Sorc. My only consideration is the Regen + cost vs max mag. So 8% mag Regen + 4% cost reduction vs 4% max mag?

Depending on build of course but that's the equivalent of... 160 Regen + 140-280 regen... 300-440 mag Regen vs 1600 mag (varying of course by build and rotation) that 1600 mag is worth 152 spell damage.

So by going x7 light you gain the equivalent of 2/3 mag Regen Glyphs, while going 5-1-1 gives 1 DMG glyph.

Offensively speaking only, greater shields with max mag though.

Meaning Logically you could go x7 light and replace that added Regen with DMG Glyphs gaining double the DMG value over the max mag...

Dance

WrathOfInnos · November 2017

7 Light gives increased mag regen and cost reduction (no additional crit or pen), but 5-1-1 gives a 4% more health and about 2% more damage, as well as slightly higher resistances from the heavy and medium armor pieces.

Most builds since Morrowind use enough heavy attacks that 7 light is not needed, so 5-1-1 is utilized mostly for the damage and survivability. If you want to avoid heavy attacks, and try something like a force pulse rotation, then 7 light is pretty much required.

Jade1986 · November 2017

Depending ony my class I usually run 5 of x armor type and then 2 of y armor type. You have to do a TON of dungeons to get that passive. So 5-2 it is for me.

For example my Mag dk is 5 light 2 heavy

Mag nb 5 light 2 medium.

Ice tank 5 Heavy 2 light.

I only have one toon that runs all medium and that is my warden ranger.