Ridiculous + Nerf maybe?! Buff warden? Magicka

DanielWinterborn · November 2017

*Go ahead, bring out your "l2p newb" reply, I thrive on that*

Hahaha so there is a skill in game broken as HELL in the sense that it does maybe 10% of what it's supposed to! What skill? Here you go chum : Support skill "Scorching Earth" it's supposed to deal 25k damage to hidden enemies over 3 seconds, you know, overpowered invisibility skill for NB! Does.... Crap damage, less than a light attack, useless, total utter waste of mana. Maybe sometimes takes the enemy out of stealth, MAYBE!

This most useful important skill should protect you against 0.5 seconds insta kill by most NB but no it doesn't. So welcome 5x5k hits from NB, thank ZOS!

But what about the nerf?
what?
what?
what?

Popcorn please!

I can state without a shadow of a doubt that 90% of those that read this thread aren't as "old" around here than I am. I play this thing almost since the start and I can assure you that I have top items, good CP build and all that.

Magicka Warden is crap. Why? Because of all the wardens I see good in pvp are stamina, not one magicka, I to this moment after one month of battlegrounds did not find a magicka warden that can take me out. So no matter how many yellow items, whatever you pull it's not enough, it sucks!

DK - WTF are they doing? I hit like a mosquito they hit like a tank, a Sherman, not the other type. Not only do they take a miserable amount of damage from my maxed out magicka damage they hit even more than a sorc. This is byllshet. How in hell do they have such resource management that out of my 40k mana with 2k mana regen they can take all I have but then hit me 5 times and it's over? I watched so many build videos and guides that I'm almost laughing at their weak crappy builds! Ridiculous compared to my stats and combos!

NB - WTF happened? Invisible-etc-etc-etc-etc-..... 3 hits, 13k dmg on the last one. Really? I'm not even going to get into it.

Sorc - Stack all day, still has enough mana to nuke half of the map. Nice! (I have a sorc, do the same thing, easy peasy noobs.)

Templar - Always full everything, mana, stamina, hp. My mana pool wasted for nothing, does it even matter anymore?

Stamina Warden - HAHAHAHA! 9k hits, more heals than a templar, takes less damage than a DK.

Magicka Warden - Sucker, cannon fodder, useless, does nothing.

Here are my stats in pvp, complain newb :

Max Magicka : 40k
HP : 21 k
Stamina : 15k
Spell damage : 2.8k
Spell crit : 62%
Mana regen : 2020
+ All the right Cp's for pvp, yellow items, one set Mother's Sorrow, one set War Maiden.

All maxed out, still ***.

Torbschka · November 2017

Wtf did I just read, I know its pure sarcasm, but I dont really get it lol

JackDaniell · November 2017

https://youtu.be/nwW01pBH2Zo

Powerful PvP magden build, hope this helps your plight! More footage on the channel if you want to see the build go 1vX against some larger groups.

O_LYKOS · November 2017

l2p newb

zyk · November 2017

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

*Go ahead, bring out your "l2p newb" reply, I thrive on that*

It's definitely 100% this.

GrigorijMalahevich · November 2017

Gitgud

there are magwarden builds that are extremely strong in good hands. Not going to advertise it, but due to “these” builds magwardena are banned from some tournaments

Your build is bad.

Apache_Kid · November 2017

I could barely decipher the original post. From what I could gather, it's just another "every class I don't main in PvP is OP" thread. Nothing to see here folks.

Alexandrious · November 2017

What is this I dont even...

All The Kek

Waffennacht · November 2017

You're going:

Fissure, Racer, then Force Pulse right? That's your 20k Burst Damage combo.

If you're not bursting like that you won't win.

Next do you run Meteor or Soul Assault? SA + Fissure is almost GG against most builds.

You can SnB back bar or Resto - advantage of Warden is you don't *have to be tied to resto (tho good)

Keeping Shimmering up against NBs/ Range?

You have Trellis running?

You have major expedition to Los when needed?

Asylum staff means concussion, chill, and burning.

Constantly keeping up shields?

Weaving?

Nirnhoned?

With Fissure Los is your friend.

Tryxus · November 2017

Not saying it's a L2P issue, but...

... it's a L2P issue

A Magden, while not as fearsome as a Stamden, can still be fearsome if played both properly and creatively. They can be quite bursty when setting up with Deep Fissure and Screaming Cliff Racer along with a powerful Ultimate like Ice Comet or Soul Assault like @Waffennacht said above. Back when Battlegrounds were Non-CP still, using the Shalk with Soul Assault was one of my fav tactics: use Shalk, use Soul Assault, Shalk would pop up and stun while still channeling the Soul Assault on them.

Defensively, a Magden can be just as tanky as a Templar or DK: you have Trellis, 2 really strong heals with one also being an AoE Major Defile, the Grove Ultimate, a Damage Absorb shield that gives you Major Heroism and a Minor Protection armor skill.

I would also suggest to change your build a bit. The sets you have are good, but there are many better alternatives out there

Ratzkifal · November 2017

Last time I checked it actually dealt its damage. Must be a bug since it hasn't been changed otherwise.

cbdfarm · November 2017

My Magika warden is pretty damn strong, I hit harder/as hard as most max level players and im only CP 400. Cliff diver, fisher, cliff diver/animation cancel to get 2 cliff divers will cause anywhere from 25k-40k depending if they all hit crits. Thats my general rotation, ( i have the blue netch ability active too) Problem is though, i cant take more then 2-3 hits, thats the issue I find (and not all my points are even in magika) So if my dodges arent perfect, or if I get stuck , i can die pretty easily. I am running 5 light 2 heavy. I find the class is pretty balanced, some even call them OP.

RouDeR · November 2017

Mother Sorrow for PvP pls Uninstall the game and hit your Computer with hammet.

lynog85 · November 2017

RouDeR wrote: »

Mother Sorrow for PvP pls Uninstall the game and hit your Computer with hammet.

You play a 65khp warden. You also cant kill a single person without cheese like werewolf. Please dont comment on anyone elses builds.

Morgul667 · November 2017

Couldnt read it all

I have seen some very good magicka wardens in PVP but yet again if the player is good, he can probably pull off any class

Betsararie · November 2017

RouDeR wrote: »

Mother Sorrow for PvP pls Uninstall the game and hit your Computer with hammet.

This is actually 100% accurate

MLGProPlayer · November 2017

1. Your build is crap
2. Magicka warden does need buffs, just not in PvP

RouDeR · November 2017

lynog85 wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

Mother Sorrow for PvP pls Uninstall the game and hit your Computer with hammet.

You play a 65khp warden. You also cant kill a single person without cheese like werewolf. Please dont comment on anyone elses builds.

Shield stacking vampires are cheese so STFU , go duel some lowbies with ur scubblade so you can feel powerful.
On the topic- try Necro + Shacklebreaker.

eso_lags · November 2017

ehh i dont lose to mag wardens..

Betsararie · November 2017

Mag Wardens are good they're just in alignment with other classes.

Stam is OP in general and far outperforms mag in terms of combat (between every class). The stam warden is the epitome of that, its passives and skills are obviously designed to perform well in PvP. So stam warden is merely taking the more powerful spec (stam) and then combining it with its objectively superior passives and skills, combined with the ridiculously OP heavy armor meta.

That is why stamden will always be better this patch (better than every other class), but mag warden is not bad. The person saying they're bad doesn't really know what they're talking about, mag warden can still dish out huge burst, has the same skills at its disposal, and can still survive a lot with use of shields and its heals (it can still use trees).