Spriggans + NMG + Veli is it a decent setup to try vMA?

Valykc
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With the event this week I wanted to attempt to finish my first vMA clear. I started on a MagSorc and got to stage 5, now I switched to Stamina and I feel much higher Damage output and penetration. I currently do not have a full set of Vicious Opidian or Two Fanged Snake so is 5x Night Mother’s Gaze, 5x Spriggans, 2x Monster a decent setup to give it a shot with? Would Crit surge be the only heal needed? Yesterday I ran nMA (which I know is nowhere as difficult as vMA) and had no deaths and used no sigils, I also had no Stam Ult yet (which I will get before attempting vMA). So I figured now would be the time to try since the double vMA loot event. I know all the mechanics pretty well so if there are any other tips, please let me know.
  • Zagnut123Zagnut123
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    Without vo it won't be easy at all. But it's doable. I'd try to run some nso and use whatever tested vo gear u get tbh.
    Edited by Zagnut123Zagnut123 on November 17, 2017 11:34AM
  • Asardes
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    nMA is not useful since it's very hard to actually die there and does in no way prepare you for vMA since most of the mechanics that would be one shot in the latter can actually be healed trough, or even outright ignored on normal. Ex. I did normal once while leveling a character and never bothered to cleanse the poison from spores in Vault of Umbrage until the round ended, on vet you won't last 3s.

    As for the setup, it's decent, but you may end up overpenetrating, depending on what traits you have on weapons, what class, and how many CP you have in piercing. I'd rather combo Spriggan's Thorns (penetration set) with a pure damage set like Hunding's Rage, Strength of the Automaton or Briarheart. Note that most mobs in vMA have around 12K resistance so you'll have to stop slightly short of that. On classes that lack Major Fracture from their kit like Sorcerer and Templar using 2 penetration set will not end up higher than that but I'm not sure about the overall damage increase vs. one penetration + one damage set setup since penetration has diminishing returns as you get closer to the cap.
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  • Valykc
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    Yeah I’m Stam Sorc, 535CP (just came back from a 5 month break), about 23 points in piercing I believe, hard to remember, but I’ll just farm nSO until I get the rest of my VO pieces so I’ll have an easier time. Thanks
  • Asardes
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    If you heavy attack the mobs you won't have trouble sustaining even without VO. Bound Armaments gives bonus damage to those. Never played Stamina Sorcerer myself, but I reckon it's not much harder than Stam DK and Stam NB which I played, so it should be doable as long as you follow the mechanics. High DPS is not needed unless you want a leaderboard score, since it allows you to skip some of the mechanics and greatly shorten the fights.
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  • Pastas
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    VO is the best stamina set for vMA. Your gear is not optimal but it is good enough.

    You will need vigor for extra heals, especially if you never cleared vMA before.






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  • Qbiken
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    The mobs with the highest spell/physical resistance in vMA will have around 18k resistance. However, there´s no reason to invest that much into penetration. The lowest add in the arena will have around 9k resistance. On magicka character´s you´ll hit 10k spell-penetration without much effort. On stamina characters you´ll have to invest more into weaponpower/weapondmg since medium armor lacks armorpassives that gives physical penetration.

    With spriggan + NMG you´ll hit roughly 6k physical penetration (you´ll hit higher if using sharpened weapons). On a stamina character you´re better investing into weapon-damage. Running either spriggan or NMG is a solid choice. Try to get your hands on Vicious ophidian, it will help you a lot. If you don´t want to go veteran trials for it, blue rings from VO-set is very good as well. The difference is not that huge.

    TL:DR = Pick either NMG or Spriggan and go get VO :)
  • Kanar
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    Replace NMG with hundings and put regen and cost reduction on jewelry and you can do it. Lower damage will force you to learn the mechanics which will help in the long run and save you frustration. Final boss only has 9k resistance.
  • Zer0oo
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    My tips for new vma runners:

    If you do it without VO i would replace one ulti with overload and put dark deal on there so you can easy get stam back after one round and get a nice heal.(VO is one of the best sets for vma)

    Also use heavy attack attacks. If you time it right you can heavy attack always the first mob that spawns at one of the portals to kill it.

    If you are low on stam and at the end of one round try to spam heavy attacks on the last enemy.(Don't do that if the enemy can really hit hard e.g. stage 8 mini boss)

    Beast trap is really awesome to root one enemy and let it die in ground aoes.

    You can use sigils. Seriously do not be afraid to use them if you are not going for a score it makes no difference and there are really powerful especial if you are not so experienced in msa. (The defensive sigil reflects all range attacks and is the best sigil)

    Kill adds fast. The faster you kill something the less time it has to kill you. Just find out what kills you most of the time in one round and try to focus it down as soon as it spawns.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Surge is not enough for you first clear, but it is for your 10th. You will need Vigor. VO is hands down the best VMA set, even blue jewerly and armor in bad traits is better than what you have. Will your gear work? Sure, but its going to be more difficult. Sustain will be an issue. Make sure you are heavy attacking, and as others have said, dont be afraid to let the last mob of a round stay alive for a second to regen. I normally dont use an overload bar, but again, you might want to consider it to make room for dark deal.

    Also, a lot of people dont realize this, but the speed sigil also boosts all stat regen. I would grab it just about every round if you dont have VO gear. Good luck!

    If you get VO gear as you said you plan to farm, I would pair it with NM and veli on a sorc. It's hard to beat.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on November 17, 2017 6:15PM
  • Swen_von_Walhallion
    well i have great expirience with briar + vo set + krag + lover mundus in vMA, with CP i can hit easy 9k penetration with is optimal, on other side i play stamplar and have advantage in pover of the light (+1320 pene) but evry time when i try replace VO with pene set i have huge resource managment problems, and this bonus movement speed when kill enemy on VO set proly one of best think for vMA, bc you cen rach other mob faster and they have little time to kill you. I personaly dont like spriggan set its except penetration offer only limited dmg boost. Unfortunetely here is not much god stamina set with jewelery which can be purchaset without farming dungeons, only sprigan is decent and briarhad which is best in the slot and its rly expensive ( it offer little beter dps output then hunding, but bc 5set bonus is proc oyu can have jewelery + weapons and still dont lose this bonus when swap on bow bar, and this little heal is helpfull in vMA) but if you never finish vMA before you proly spend lot and lot of time on your first run

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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    This will do fine and be great dmg wise. You'll need to heavy attack and get some recovery. Vma is not kind to low recovery. VO helps a ton with that.
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