Light weave timing?

pteam · November 2017

Half the time when I’m hitting the skeleton and I light weave then spell, light weave then spell, the light weave just doesn’t come out and half the time it does. What is the timing to this that I’m missing? I always try to do a light attack before each spell but it just doesn’t work half the time.

Thanks!

Turelus · November 2017

Are you a Nightblade using Swallow Soul?

pteam · November 2017

I’m a Magicka dk on Xbox

Nestor · November 2017

First, remember that the skills and attacks fire on button release, not press. Well, Heavies will eventually fire on their own, but you get the idea. Knowing its on release will help with the timings.

Now you have heard of Animation Canceling, you could be canceling the LA instead of the skill so you don't see it. Your timings have to be pretty tight for that.

Lets assume your not getting the LA (as evidenced by not seeing the damage numbers on the screen. You do have the damage numbers scrolling, right?) I prefer myself to AC the LA (really a Medium Attack) with the skill, but that is just me. So, first thing first. Don't worry about the speed of your attacks. Do each one deliberately and slowly, count One-One Thousand between LA and Skills if you have to. Once you get the rhythm of the rotation down, then speed it up.

Also, another thing that can happen is, are you seeing any lag on the target skeleton? Some people, like me, have this so bad the skeleton is all but useless.

pteam · November 2017

Thanks. I’m not seeing any lag. I’m using a lightning staff and when I go in order light attack, spell, LA, spell, LA, spell. Sometimes the LA just doesn’t fire or stuff gets mistimed. Should I wait a brief second after the spell or watch to see the spell finish before doing the next light attack?

Nestor · November 2017

Try a inferno staff instead. Never had much luck myself with weaving on a Lightening staff. Once you get the rhythm down, then switch to the lightening staff. Lightening and Inferno Staffs are quite different in their feel when using them.

As for waiting for the skills to finish, your ultimate goal is to use animation canceling to speed the whole process up. But, until you can get the skills and attacks to fire as you want them to, there is no need to animation cancel.

See the following video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=***-PBevmzVM&t=118s

This explains AC in detail, just remember it was from release year when the numbers were a lot smaller than now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=***-PBevmzVM&t=118s

pteam · November 2017

The link says video not found

Thogard · November 2017

It’s harder to do if you’re lagging.

The most common error is that you’re hitting your skill button before you let go of the light attack button.

Timing is something like

1. Release light attack button
2. Pause based on server ping - worse ping = longer wait
3. Hit skill button
4. Release skill button
5. Pause based on server ping
6. Block cancel

pteam · November 2017

Ok that seems so work the best: tap light trigger quickly and make sure it’s released before quickly pressing the spell button.

Nestor · November 2017

pteam wrote: »

The link says video not found

Weird, copy and pasted the link just like every other video I have posted here.

Search ESO Animation Canceling at Youtube and look for the two videos by Deltia on this subject, should be in the first 4 videos on the list.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eso+animation+cancelling+on+console

jkolb2030 · November 2017

When you are weaving with a staff you have to be conscious of when you release the light attack and what your character is doing. If you do it too quick your character will look like he's pulling his staff back and about to go forward, but then you just do a skill... It makes you look like you're getting really fast, but you are actually cancelling the light attack all together.

The way i found easiest to practice was to watch the staff attack animation. Once i saw the fireball leave the staff i used my skill. You can still notice you're cancelling the end portion of the light attack, but you're also making sure that your light attack is actually going off without fully cancelling it with your skill.

Try that, and just keep working on timing and you will eventually get it down to muscle memory.

Saint314Louis1985 · November 2017

best way i can describe it is slow down a little bit and deliberately make sure that your LA is going off every time then go immediately to your next skill. If you dont see the animation it probably didnt go off. lightning staff has a little bit of delay that takes some getting use to. After alot of practice, it will come pretty naturally.

Dojohoda · November 2017

^^ yes this and others who suggested waiting. Light attack "requires" a full one-second ( I think that is the correct amount of time). It won't fire if not given time.

exeeter702 · November 2017

Thogard wrote: »

It’s harder to do if you’re lagging.

The most common error is that you’re hitting your skill button before you let go of the light attack button.

Timing is something like

1. Release light attack button
2. Pause based on server ping - worse ping = longer wait
3. Hit skill button
4. Release skill button
5. Pause based on server ping
6. Block cancel

All of that, minus block cancel actually. Dont ever do that unless you specifically need to block something while you are in a recovery animation of an ability. Block canceling does not circumvent the gcd nor does it increase any rotation frequency and only serves to suspend your stamina recovery.

SupremeRissole · November 2017

In Australia where the dl speed on xbox of 2mb/s is considered normal, light attack weaving is considerably hard. The amount of times I will press a skill and it wont work or light attack weaving doesnt work is insane.

That being said you just have to make do with what you have. Do the rotation slowly and deliberate and as you get good at it you can increase the speed.