CPs Ruined BGs

Skoomah · November 2017

Turning on CP has made building a character with near immortal tanking and low damage, that can't kill anyone on your own, the new meta in BGs. The Zerg mentality from Cyrodiil has infected BG.

Here's a breakdown by BG game mode.

Domination - Tank everyone, never die, stack flags and flip all flags, as long as you outnumber by the flag, the flag will slowly flip in your favor.

Crazy King - Tank like in Domination, just add some mobility.

Chaos Ball - Tank's wet dream, tank holds the ball until death and then hands it off to the other tank on the team upon death.

Capture the Relic - Tank by the flag and just bash the person trying to capture the flag, only time getting the flag works is when someone misses the bash.

Deathmatch - Everyone on the team is built to tank with very low damage but when the entire team focuses one enemy at a time, the team can score kills. Also, just ball the team up around the action, tank everything, combine the very low damage to focus fire and steal kills from others who did 90% of the damage.

We've gone from builds meant to 1vX to builds that Xv1. Tanking is the new Meta.

VaranisArano · November 2017

Skoomah wrote: »

The Zerg mentality from Cyrodiil has infected BG.

I didn't realize it was possible to Zerg with only four people. Out in Cyrodiil, four is a small group.

Of course, from what you say, it does sound like 4 tanks is indeed the ideal strategy for teams that are focused on winning, not kills or dueling.

Shardan4968 · November 2017

After new patch, BGs are definitely dead to me, shame that ZOS don't allow us to buy Morrowind chapter without them, for lower price. ESO is not ready for new PvP content If ZOS can't even fix balance. (It's my opinion)

brandonv516 · November 2017

It's definitely harder to get dedicated groups down than in non-CP BGs. It's possible but really not worth it most of the time.

I've heard rumors of the blocking mechanic being altered. I'd really like to see what they have in mind.

MakoFore · November 2017

its impossible now. non cp was great, if u made a mistake- u died, the way the game should be.
now u walk in and its 2 X 2 team - both with Guard on , shield stacking , and impossible to kill. last one i went in - a team camped out their zone- with that doulbe guard setup and had both teams wailing on them - and building destro ultis and dropping 4 of them at once- over and over. sure- they can be beaten with co-ordinated play, but thats not skilled play to me- thats just using CP and weaknesses in the game.

really wish they d get rid of the many modes- and implement CP and non CP modes- just make it Battlegrounds n Capture the Flag- thats it-
BUT
have a proper KDA , team rankings and propers seeded matches, and yes custom matches- i will keep aasking for it til they give it to us.

Grabmoore · November 2017

Completely agree. I have stopped with BGs, because you only stand a chance with a cheesy defensive build now. it's just boring and I definetely won't set my CP everytime i join BGs.

RIP Battlegrounds. You used to be fun.

Tormy · November 2017

BGs will only be good once options are added. Non CP, CP, group que, solo que. BGs was still garbage with non cp because of premades vs solo qued players. We need options!

KingMagaw · November 2017

I do feel slightly ripped off buying MW with BG as NO CP, for ZOS to take away the NO CP option and add CP.

Poor move.

Tan9oSuccka · November 2017

Yet another reason I’ve never stepped foot in BG. Coordinated, premade tank cheese groups versus rando pugs.

What could possibly go wrong?

Apache_Kid · November 2017

KingMagaw wrote: »

I do feel slightly ripped off buying MW with BG as NO CP, for ZOS to take away the NO CP option and add CP.

Poor move.

Agreed. Now I feel as if the already over-priced Morrowind expansion gave me even less content. Battlegrounds is no fun when permablockers sit on objectives and hold relics and never die.

coop500 · November 2017

Yeah there should be a no CP option besides level below 50 and even then we get the cheese premade groups with a pug of 3

SaintSubwayy · November 2017

pls correct the title of this post to "CP ruined the Game" , this would be more appropriate ;P

Since they made them with CP i've not set a foot into them, prob for good reason. For the ppl playing non CP pvp switch to a CP BG would be a bad expirience imo.

But they dont have BG's for both or both BG would be underpopulatzed i guess

React · November 2017

Wow look, exactly what everyone said would happen for months before the change was implemented, happened. Cp is what ruins pvp in this game. It creates extreme balance issues, allows you to reduce the cost of almost every character function, increase sustain to infinite levels, and boost damage all simultaneously while wearing whatever weight of armor you'd like. A small scale 4v4 setting is the perfect place for groups to run 4x unkillable cancer builds that can't kill anything on their own, but can easily burst down opponents xvx or xv1. I've played bgs more than the majority of people I know; no Cp bgs were balanced. I play a medium armor stamplar who builds for almost pure damage, and in the entirety of NO CP BGS existence, i ran into maybe one person I couldn't kill by myself relatively quickly. Now, in Cp bgs, every single game there is some blocknight who will stand there with Lt taped down until they get a leap, blow their pathetic useless leap for sustain, then continue to hold Lt. Or, there will be completley unkillable wardens who can still do massive UNAVOIDABLE DAMAGE AND GENERATE 100% MORE ULTI THAN ANY OTHER CLASS. Or, you run into the good old magplar cancer stacks who all run two sustain sets, Skoria, and soul assault. There is no middleground. Players in this game would rather stay alive and do little to no damage than build for damage and die from time to time. Cp allows them to do that.

HEBREWHAMMERRR · November 2017

BGs are absolute trash. What was once the sole reason for even starting up the game had been ruined, like myself, and many other sole BG players advised. This game is shelved until they figure out how to listen to their damn community and implement real solutions to actual problems.

ihazzit · November 2017

Liam12548 wrote: »

Players in this game would rather stay alive and do little to no damage than build for damage and die from time to time.

I have nothing insightful to offer concerning the OP issues, however, after reading your post, specifically that sentence, only one thing came to mind.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY

It's the BeeGees singing Stayin' Alive

Girl_Number8 · November 2017

Skoomah wrote: »

Turning on CP has made building a character with near immortal tanking and low damage, that can't kill anyone on your own, the new meta in BGs. The Zerg mentality from Cyrodiil has infected BG.

Here's a breakdown by BG game mode.

Domination - Tank everyone, never die, stack flags and flip all flags, as long as you outnumber by the flag, the flag will slowly flip in your favor.

Crazy King - Tank like in Domination, just add some mobility.

Chaos Ball - Tank's wet dream, tank holds the ball until death and then hands it off to the other tank on the team upon death.

Capture the Relic - Tank by the flag and just bash the person trying to capture the flag, only time getting the flag works is when someone misses the bash.

Deathmatch - Everyone on the team is built to tank with very low damage but when the entire team focuses one enemy at a time, the team can score kills. Also, just ball the team up around the action, tank everything, combine the very low damage to focus fire and steal kills from others who did 90% of the damage.

We've gone from builds meant to 1vX to builds that Xv1. Tanking is the new Meta.

This is great! Last time it was stamblade proctards. It's most of those stealthflakes that ruined the game with their whining. Here they are again, hooray!

Make a tanky you lazy sods and stop complaining. BG's was a failure from the start, they should of just killed it and fixed cyro instead.

It's really getting boring just being a nightblade, smh.

Be careful what you wish for, ZoS never gives you what you expect. They may decide to nerf the most played class into the dust and release a new subpar class and charge you as a chapter, lmfao.

Well I am going to play look at the loading screens.

LadyNalcarya · November 2017

I agree.
I used to enjoy non cp BGs.
But now everyone and their mother is a tank, and the fights are just boring. Its not impossible to win, but its not fun anymore. And dedicated groups became much more powerful.

Autumnhart · November 2017

It's not the zerg mentality, it's the PVE mentality: people playing for rewards and achieves they'll get whatever way is fastest and easiest. If PVP happens it's incidental. Cyrodiil and IC have been infected with it for a while now, of course BGs are too.

ajcorbell · November 2017

KingMagaw wrote: »

I do feel slightly ripped off buying MW with BG as NO CP, for ZOS to take away the NO CP option and add CP.

Poor move.

This.

luen79rwb17_ESO · November 2017

Skoomah wrote: »

Turning on CP has made building a character with near immortal tanking and low damage, that can't kill anyone on your own, the new meta in BGs. The Zerg mentality from Cyrodiil has infected BG.

Here's a breakdown by BG game mode.

Domination - Tank everyone, never die, stack flags and flip all flags, as long as you outnumber by the flag, the flag will slowly flip in your favor.

Crazy King - Tank like in Domination, just add some mobility.

Chaos Ball - Tank's wet dream, tank holds the ball until death and then hands it off to the other tank on the team upon death.

Capture the Relic - Tank by the flag and just bash the person trying to capture the flag, only time getting the flag works is when someone misses the bash.

Deathmatch - Everyone on the team is built to tank with very low damage but when the entire team focuses one enemy at a time, the team can score kills. Also, just ball the team up around the action, tank everything, combine the very low damage to focus fire and steal kills from others who did 90% of the damage.

We've gone from builds meant to 1vX to builds that Xv1. Tanking is the new Meta.

You get a tank! Everyone gets a tank!!!

Majeure · November 2017

Yeah Battlegrounds are pretty terribad right now.

And that's not to mention besides the achievements there's no incentive to even do them, and when you do the queues are long because it's no fun and gated behind a paywall.

Cendrillion21 · November 2017

As predicted.

Such a shame, BGs used to be fun.