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Are magicka nightblades hard to make decent?

coop500
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I thank you all for helping but due to me mistakenly mentioning the evil M armor word, people are now flocking here to rag on me about it, so please if you came here to do that, then just don't, there's plenty here that are doing that already. I have a plan of action that seems to be working so far and I DO PLAN ON CHANGING to light armor, I just CAN'T right now because I don't want to grind with a 'bad' build, I don't have the mats yet and I don't have the money to buy yet but all will be changed in time.
Edited by coop500 on November 11, 2017 4:22PM
Hoping for more playable races
  • getemshauna
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    You can solo 80% of world bosses using only a strife, just get a decent gear :-)
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  • Danksta
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    You can solo 80% of world bosses using only a strife, just get a decent gear :-)

    I'd even say decent gear is optional.
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  • coop500
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    I have indeed soloed quite a few world bosses with my stamina werewolf nightblade, I love her, but dang I cant hardly do anything with the magicka nightblade... there must be something to it.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Magicka NB is the best solo class in the game. The damage and survivability is insane.
  • CavalryPK
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    I will never play magicka nightblade. Its the most horrible class ever!
    THE CAVELRY HAS ARRIVED! Cav is a professional magblade, (in his not so professional opinion). He is immortal and is fighting for the Pact since 2E 572, amidst the turmoil of the Second Akaviri Invasion. He protects the provinces of Skyrim, Morrowind and Black Marsh.

    Check out his PVP YouTube channel !

    https://youtube.com/TheCavalryPK
  • SelfTherapy
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    You just need to get used to it. My magblade is the only class I ever play nowadays and it's the class I have the most fun on.
  • Imza
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    I recently swapped my stamblade to a magblade.

    magblade is much easier to play if you have played other magicka toons.

    stamblade requires a lot of skill and I have fumbly fingers :(
  • coop500
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    For those of you who say it works fine, what skills are you using? What morphs? I feel so fumbly with my skill setup and all.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Tonturri
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    coop500 wrote: »
    For those of you who say it works fine, what skills are you using? What morphs? I feel so fumbly with my skill setup and all.

    Strife (first ability in Siphoning tree). Any morph of this one works, though I prefer Funnel Health. The second to last and last ability in the Siphoning tree, Strikes and Drain P morphed to Siphoning Attacks and Sap Essence, are also amazing.

    Lastly, Path of Darkness (3rd ability, Shadow tree) morphed to Refreshing Path.

    Strife is your spammable single target damage ability, Sap Essence for AoE (it also heals! \o/), and just keep Refresh'ng Path active wherever you're running around.

    That's pretty much all you'll ever need. Fill out the other slots as you like.
  • Eddyble
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    Imza wrote: »
    I recently swapped my stamblade to a magblade.

    magblade is much easier to play if you have played other magicka toons.

    stamblade requires a lot of skill and I have fumbly fingers :(

    I too recently did this with my main. Which is used mostly for solo questing. Much more fun IMO, less buttons to press, more spammy. Magblade seems to allow for more fun builds and set combos with good balance of sustain and survivability with some decent damage also. Of course, I still have a stamina character which, even though it uses more skills it seems to kill stuff quicker.
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  • coop500
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    Tonturri wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    For those of you who say it works fine, what skills are you using? What morphs? I feel so fumbly with my skill setup and all.

    Strife (first ability in Siphoning tree). Any morph of this one works, though I prefer Funnel Health. The second to last and last ability in the Siphoning tree, Strikes and Drain P morphed to Siphoning Attacks and Sap Essence, are also amazing.

    Lastly, Path of Darkness (3rd ability, Shadow tree) morphed to Refreshing Path.

    Strife is your spammable single target damage ability, Sap Essence for AoE (it also heals! \o/), and just keep Refresh'ng Path active wherever you're running around.

    That's pretty much all you'll ever need. Fill out the other slots as you like.

    Alright, thank you so much, between this and a guildie, I have some base grounds to start with.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Tonturri wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    For those of you who say it works fine, what skills are you using? What morphs? I feel so fumbly with my skill setup and all.

    Strife (first ability in Siphoning tree). Any morph of this one works, though I prefer Funnel Health. The second to last and last ability in the Siphoning tree, Strikes and Drain P morphed to Siphoning Attacks and Sap Essence, are also amazing.

    Lastly, Path of Darkness (3rd ability, Shadow tree) morphed to Refreshing Path.

    Strife is your spammable single target damage ability, Sap Essence for AoE (it also heals! \o/), and just keep Refresh'ng Path active wherever you're running around.

    That's pretty much all you'll ever need. Fill out the other slots as you like.

    Along the same lines, for any amount of mobs more then 1. Refreshing path. Elemental wall (whichever one). Strife for dot/heal. Spam sap essence. Great aoe and decent aoe heal. Most normal mobs you don’t even need to bother with the strife and one or two saps will kill the group.

    And unless you are getting hit real hard, the dot from standing in refreshing path, the aoe heal from sap, and the dot from strife will keep you from having any really problems, unless you are completely overrun. It is also good if you are in a group with a bad/starting healer since the more mobs nearby the more sap heals. Which can really help out a bad pug group. Which is actually why I ran my magNB for so long, it didn’t really matter what the rest of the group was doing. Decent healing with decent damage. Sure you don’t set any records but you won’t be the reason for the wipes either.

    Of course there is more to being a really good nb, but this is enough to keep you alive And a good start. Once you get use to it you can add the nb buffs and or shuffle out some of the heals for more damage.
  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    Magicka NB is the best solo class in the game. The damage and survivability is insane.

    “Insane” with Alcast accent :smiley:
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    Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
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    Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
    Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq
  • coop500
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    How many points into health should I put in her? or do you guys put any in?
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Samadhi
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    Tonturri wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    For those of you who say it works fine, what skills are you using? What morphs? I feel so fumbly with my skill setup and all.

    Strife (first ability in Siphoning tree). Any morph of this one works, though I prefer Funnel Health. The second to last and last ability in the Siphoning tree, Strikes and Drain P morphed to Siphoning Attacks and Sap Essence, are also amazing.

    Lastly, Path of Darkness (3rd ability, Shadow tree) morphed to Refreshing Path.

    Strife is your spammable single target damage ability, Sap Essence for AoE (it also heals! \o/), and just keep Refresh'ng Path active wherever you're running around.

    That's pretty much all you'll ever need. Fill out the other slots as you like.

    Along the same lines, for any amount of mobs more then 1. Refreshing path. Elemental wall (whichever one). Strife for dot/heal. Spam sap essence. Great aoe and decent aoe heal. Most normal mobs you don’t even need to bother with the strife and one or two saps will kill the group.

    And unless you are getting hit real hard, the dot from standing in refreshing path, the aoe heal from sap, and the dot from strife will keep you from having any really problems, unless you are completely overrun. It is also good if you are in a group with a bad/starting healer since the more mobs nearby the more sap heals. Which can really help out a bad pug group. Which is actually why I ran my magNB for so long, it didn’t really matter what the rest of the group was doing. Decent healing with decent damage. Sure you don’t set any records but you won’t be the reason for the wipes either.

    Of course there is more to being a really good nb, but this is enough to keep you alive And a good start. Once you get use to it you can add the nb buffs and or shuffle out some of the heals for more damage.

    Strife is direct damage with a heal over time attached,
    it has no damage over time effect
    Cripple is the single target damage over time skill from the Siphoning tree
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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    Tonturri wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    For those of you who say it works fine, what skills are you using? What morphs? I feel so fumbly with my skill setup and all.

    Strife (first ability in Siphoning tree). Any morph of this one works, though I prefer Funnel Health. The second to last and last ability in the Siphoning tree, Strikes and Drain P morphed to Siphoning Attacks and Sap Essence, are also amazing.

    Lastly, Path of Darkness (3rd ability, Shadow tree) morphed to Refreshing Path.

    Strife is your spammable single target damage ability, Sap Essence for AoE (it also heals! \o/), and just keep Refresh'ng Path active wherever you're running around.

    That's pretty much all you'll ever need. Fill out the other slots as you like.

    Along the same lines, for any amount of mobs more then 1. Refreshing path. Elemental wall (whichever one). Strife for dot/heal. Spam sap essence. Great aoe and decent aoe heal. Most normal mobs you don’t even need to bother with the strife and one or two saps will kill the group.

    And unless you are getting hit real hard, the dot from standing in refreshing path, the aoe heal from sap, and the dot from strife will keep you from having any really problems, unless you are completely overrun. It is also good if you are in a group with a bad/starting healer since the more mobs nearby the more sap heals. Which can really help out a bad pug group. Which is actually why I ran my magNB for so long, it didn’t really matter what the rest of the group was doing. Decent healing with decent damage. Sure you don’t set any records but you won’t be the reason for the wipes either.

    Of course there is more to being a really good nb, but this is enough to keep you alive And a good start. Once you get use to it you can add the nb buffs and or shuffle out some of the heals for more damage.

    Strife is direct damage with a heal over time attached,
    it has no damage over time effect
    Cripple is the single target damage over time skill from the Siphoning tree

    My bad. You are correct. I was mostly thinking about the dot heal. For some reason it just stuck in my head it was dot damage to. But you are correct. Spamming it is a decent direct damage skills.
  • Chronicburn
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    My magblade sucks ... ever since I put her in all heavy armor and started running around light attacking everything with a mace ...
  • Girl_Number8
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    CavalryPK wrote: »
    I will never play magicka nightblade. Its the most horrible class ever!

    I see what u did there, hmmmm. Pretty sneaky like a magblade :*
  • Girl_Number8
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    Magicka NB is the best solo class in the game. The damage and survivability is insane.

    “Insane” with Alcast accent :smiley:

    "Wankpire", lmao. It's cute though.:star:
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on November 10, 2017 9:12PM
  • agingerinohio
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    The magblade rotation is complex compared to others for vet/trial dps. However, the key thing is CP allocation. The meta YouTube guys have videos out with conflicting CP allocation. Which has led me to build my NB how I see fit. I solo world bosses and dps/heal dungeons with her and she does great. It has by far become my favorite class to play.

    I run 5 piece Julianos and 5 piece Mother's Sorrow with a fire focus (dunmer)
  • coop500
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    Deleted,
    Edited by coop500 on November 11, 2017 5:35AM
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Parvati_OAC
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    My main is a stam NB but when I started working with this build from Alcast, I have to say Mag night blade is pretty darn fun to play and extremely effective.

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-nightblade-build-pve/
    Edited by Parvati_OAC on November 10, 2017 10:20PM
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    Neia Coralei 50 // Stamina Nightblade
    Parvati Shallowe 50 // Stamina Warden
    Dask'omir 50 // Magica Nightblade
    Stormey 50 // Magica Templar
    Reftlin 50 // Magica Sorcerer
    Jho'zaine 50 // Stamina Templar
    K'iera 50 // Stamina Dragon Knight
    Z'andor // Stamina Sorcerer
    A'rtemsia 50 // Magica Dragon Knight

    CP: 750
  • Everstorm
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    With the passives fire staff will boost your single target skills and lightning staff will boost your area skills. And what's with the medium armor?
  • PlagueSD
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    Imza wrote: »
    stamblade requires a lot of skill and I have fumbly fingers :(

    Really???

    Ambush,
    spin2win (Steel Tornado),
    Killers Blade (Execute)


    What's so hard about that?
  • coop500
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    Everstorm wrote: »
    With the passives fire staff will boost your single target skills and lightning staff will boost your area skills. And what's with the medium armor?

    Bought a set of heavy and medium twice born star armor from someone for real cheap, they didn't have light.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • TheShadowScout
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    I have one magica nightblade.

    I found the class to be super-effective, but also super-boring to play.
    Strife and its morphs are you go-to skill for 75% of the game, Sap Essence for the rest. Lifedrain, lifedrain, lifedrain your way to victory. With a decent light armor gear set you won't run out of magica before nearly any opponent runs out of health. But its so booo-ring!
  • agingerinohio
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    coop500 wrote: »
    The magblade rotation is complex compared to others for vet/trial dps. However, the key thing is CP allocation. The meta YouTube guys have videos out with conflicting CP allocation. Which has led me to build my NB how I see fit. I solo world bosses and dps/heal dungeons with her and she does great. It has by far become my favorite class to play.

    I run 5 piece Julianos and 5 piece Mother's Sorrow with a fire focus (dunmer)

    Ohhh crafted armor sets, me like-y. Good to know, I redid EVERYTHING, skills, CP and magicka/health point location and I'm testing her out just out and about, she does good now. I suspect with practice and once I get enough mats for those sets, I'll do even better.

    I kinda did a combo of almost every comment here, I got duel swords and fire staff with the follow skills.

    Bar one with duel swords: Impale, Funnel Health, Siphoning Attacks, Grim Focus (not morphed yet but will once I can), Mirage

    Bar two with fire staff: Unstable Wall Of Fire, Crippling Grasp, Refreshing Path, Summon Shade (again not morphed but will once I can) Reaper's Mark.

    Got 10 in Health, 54 in Magicka, CP wise I got 76 points in Arcanist, 76 in Spell Erosion and 76 in Medium Armor Focus (might change this later when I can make a decent set of light armor in the sets listed in the quote above.)

    Are you on PC NA? I can craft you Julianos if you provide the mats. Also, I will message you about your CP allocation.
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    My first toon is an NB. And it's made every new toon look easy in comparison. You must successfully weave 100% of the time in order to maximise the number of assassins will attacks. That can be hard in lag.
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    Yea the reason you were sucking is cause you were trying to do magika dps in medium armor also lightning staves are almost a must with how insane the heavy attacks are to deal AoE damage.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    I just got mine out of mothballs for a little while. She was fine at soloing dolmens, duoing easy dungeons, and so on. I did store her away again after deciding I had no reason to prefer her for DPS over a magicka sorcerer or for healing over a templar, but anyhow:
    • I too went 5-5-1, with Mother's Sorrow and a crafted set. (I used Seducer, but if I'd kept playing her I would probably have switched to Julianos.
    • The basic three attack skills are Funnel Health (the morph I used), LIghtning Blockade (the only morph to use), and Refreshing Path (the morph I chose because I envisioned using her as a healer).
    • Reaping Mark is amazing for trash fights. I actually used both Reaping Mark and Elemental Drain (on different targets, of course).
    • I like Crippling Grasp/Debilitate but couldn't quite fit it onto my skill bar.
    • Assassin's Will can be made to work with some practice, especially if you have it on your front/DPS bar. Of course, it's less valuable in a dungeon where somebody (perhaps you) is running Combat Prayer.
    • It's awkward that Soul Harvest is melee range.
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