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Rip pvp in console. Is pvp a burden to zos?
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Empty because of load screens. I sometimes wonder if pvp is just a burden to zos. What is stopping them from telling us one day that they will terminate pvp because its just not worth it. Its always broken and has been broken for a long time, and it breaks all the time, also creates balance problems for the whole game but specifically pvp where people just create cancer builds every single patch. Its just a waste of resources and i doubt zos gets much money from pvp. Lol
Edited by Kalante on November 10, 2017 7:02PM 7
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Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭I've tried to over look the load screens but every time I would die then port I had to restart the game just got tired of doing it ain't worth the trouble if they don't care about fixing their game we shouldn't care to play it but I believe they are moving more towards battlegrounds if anything probably because they are so small scale they are easier to manage then cyrodiil isEdited by Jake1576 on November 10, 2017 7:13PM2
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makreth✭✭✭✭✭I don't really think PVP raises revenues..I can see craftbag an important reason for going eso+ (I personally can't do without it) but hardcore PVPers can easily go without if playing the Cyrodiil game. Maybe I'm wrong. But this doesn't mean it's not in the game and should be ignored.. the opposite.Edited by makreth on November 10, 2017 7:14PM0 -
MudcrabsRus✭✭✭No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There was a lot less lag when it was client side, but cheaters made them switch to server side, I blame the cheatersEdited by Waffennacht on November 10, 2017 7:23PM2 -
Rawkan✭✭✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
This isn't something new. We've had this in every event that drags PvE players into PvP. Now they're all there to farm the trasmutation stuff, so the endless loading screens are back, and here to stay.1 -
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✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
This isn't something new. We've had this in every event that drags PvE players into PvP. Now they're all there to farm the trasmutation stuff, so the endless loading screens are back, and here to stay.
Population is not what's causing the problem at all.0 -
zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭But still no other professional company with a name as big as Zenimax would let this slide. There literally is no improvement in lag for the last 2 years in cyrdoil. The game is fun when it is not laggy but that’s less than 50% of the time. You have players who leave ultimately because they cannot handle the mixture of lag during pve and pvp content, then try to blame it on their internet connection.1
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phidonk526✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
This isn't something new. We've had this in every event that drags PvE players into PvP. Now they're all there to farm the trasmutation stuff, so the endless loading screens are back, and here to stay.
Population is not what's causing the problem at all.
I have to agree. I logged on this morning at 6am EST to kill some time before work. only 1 bar yellow and after 2 different deaths I had to port and got trapped in the load screen. Both times I had to hard reset my xbox to come out. I am usually optimistic on things but this is starting to be problematic.CP 160 Magic DK
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✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
This isn't something new. We've had this in every event that drags PvE players into PvP. Now they're all there to farm the trasmutation stuff, so the endless loading screens are back, and here to stay.
This is something new though, the servers are empty and people still can't travel or respawn. Has nothing to do with an event or increased numbers. If the servers cant handle more than 12 people from each faction then there is a problem.The patch broke console!
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Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭Empty because of load screens. I sometimes wonder if pvp is just a burden to zos. What is stopping them from telling us one day that they will terminate pvp because its just not worth it. Its always broken and has been broken for a long time, and it breaks all the time, also creates balance problems for the whole game but specifically pvp where people just create cancer builds every single patch. Its just a waste of resources and i doubt zos gets much money from pvp. Lol
Thats kinda what they told us this patch actually...0 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »There was a lot less lag when it was client side, but cheaters made them switch to server side, I blame the cheaters
Nice waffy finally something I can give you an agree on...1 -
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✭bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »Cancer builds = just better then you builds
oh yeah that guy with 30k health with pirate skeleton spamming shield ult and bol with resto heavy attacks is so much better than my build. I have never.3 -
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✭I hope they don't kill PvP. I've been playing for 2 years pretty much daily and PvP is why. It's addictive, and when it comes to Cyrodiil I don't know of any other game out there that is quite like it. Huge fights that last over 30 minutes still put a smile on my face. It's incredible.
This loading screen issue isn't like anything prior. Sometimes, you "might" get an infinite load screen. Currently, it's guaranteed 100% - If you respawn or travel from one keep to another, you need to close app, dashboard and then completely restart the game to get back in. Every. Time.PS4NA1 -
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✭✭✭✭bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »Cancer builds = just better then you builds
oh yeah that guy with 30k health with pirate skeleton spamming shield ult and bol with resto heavy attacks is so much better than my build. I have never.
Pirate is so last year. He's cheesing malubeth to make healing from livewire ignore battlespirit this patch.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
I see you've never played Lord of the Rings Online. That game crawled to a halt whenever two 24 man PVP raids (48 players in total) met on the battlefield. The lag affected people with potatoes and high-end rigs alike. It was sad.
Stability in Cyrodiil ain't great, but I've dealt with worse.
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Rawkan✭✭✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
I see you've never played Lord of the Rings Online. That game crawled to a halt whenever two 24 man PVP raids (48 players in total) met on the battlefield. The lag affected people with potatoes and high-end rigs alike. It was sad.
Stability in Cyrodiil ain't great, but I've dealt with worse.
Lotro is another example of a game that should've never added PvP, just like ESO.1 -
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✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
I see you've never played Lord of the Rings Online. That game crawled to a halt whenever two 24 man PVP raids (48 players in total) met on the battlefield. The lag affected people with potatoes and high-end rigs alike. It was sad.
Stability in Cyrodiil ain't great, but I've dealt with worse.
Lotro is another example of a game that should've never added PvP, just like ESO.
Should never have added? PVP was a major selling point of ESO pre launch, just look at the pre launch promo vids etc. Just because pve only players can only handle fighting AI and dont have the skill set or reaction to compete in pvp doesnt mean it shouldnt exist.2 -
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✭PvP is probably the only reason I and many others probably still play this game 2+ years after the release...Fix Ur Game ZoS..."Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."2 -
Rawkan✭✭✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »No other company would except this... Their would have been a fix within 24 hours but zos can't even address the issue after countless posts
I see you've never played Lord of the Rings Online. That game crawled to a halt whenever two 24 man PVP raids (48 players in total) met on the battlefield. The lag affected people with potatoes and high-end rigs alike. It was sad.
Stability in Cyrodiil ain't great, but I've dealt with worse.
Lotro is another example of a game that should've never added PvP, just like ESO.
Should never have added? PVP was a major selling point of ESO pre launch, just look at the pre launch promo vids etc. Just because pve only players can only handle fighting AI and dont have the skill set or reaction to compete in pvp doesnt mean it shouldnt exist.
I agree that it makes sense with PvP in this game, and it would be awesome IF the devs actually cared enough about it.As it stands now, PvP is just a buggy side-project with a low pop unless there's an event going on, again, just like in lotro.
Just seems like a waste to me when they're not 100% in it.0 -
KrishakPanettier✭✭✭You are wrong about PVP NOT bringing in revenue. Most of the core players that PVP spend hundreds of dollars a year on the game buying everything: ESO+, crowns. DLCs and now Chapters.Krishak Kringle aka KrishakPanettier, Templar (PSN:KrishakPanettier)
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billp_ESO✭✭✭✭Wow, that sounds bad for consoles. I play on PC, with a 3 year old midrange rig and a 4mb/sec Internet link, and I've never had even one flicker of lag, no problems porting or travelling. Nothing.
I've only played the below 50 campaign and it's never crowded, but there has been zero problems.
It sounds like ZoS really broke console PVP.0