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Clever Alchemist not proccing?

WhoThenNow7
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I just got on after the update on Xbox.. and clever alchemist is not proccing upon drinking a potion. Anyone else having this issue?
  • Jake1576
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    You have to be in combat now for it to proc that's the way they made it this update I used it to gank on my stamina nightblade but switched sets do to this change
    Edited by Jake1576 on November 8, 2017 5:01AM
  • DRXHarbinger
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    You also have to have all 5 pieces on front bar at the time and throughout the buff duration. No more 3 piece front bar and sword back bar.
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    I just got on after the update on Xbox.. and clever alchemist is not proccing upon drinking a potion. Anyone else having this issue?

    yes, it was "nerfed" in the last patch, now you need to be already in combat for it to proc, pretty bad idea to nerf it like this imho
  • The_Protagonist
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    You also have to have all 5 pieces on front bar at the time and throughout the buff duration. No more 3 piece front bar and sword back bar.

    Is that the case now? Wow! I have not tested this, as soon as I saw the PTS patch notes I left it in the bank to collect dust, now seems like it will be good only for decon after I can confirm this by actual testing.

    Anyone else see the buff going away after swapping bars?

    Will this affect sets like Sunderflame and Briarheart too?

    :|
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    You also have to have all 5 pieces on front bar at the time and throughout the buff duration. No more 3 piece front bar and sword back bar.

    Is that the case now? Wow! I have not tested this, as soon as I saw the PTS patch notes I left it in the bank to collect dust, now seems like it will be good only for decon after I can confirm this by actual testing.

    Anyone else see the buff going away after swapping bars?

    Will this affect sets like Sunderflame and Briarheart too?

    :|

    I just tested it and this is not the case. The buff stays even after swapping to a bar whithout the 5 piece bonus.
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  • Minno
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    And you can be in combat after casting mark/ele drain. Both those spells can be cast in stealth so....
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    Minno wrote: »
    And you can be in combat after casting mark/ele drain. Both those spells can be cast in stealth so....

    Wut?? I need to test this when I get home :D
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    You also need to sacrifice a pidgeon to the ESO potion gods so that they actually go off when you hit the button instead of just make the noise as if they did, when they actually did not.
  • Sanctum74
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    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    And you can be in combat after casting mark/ele drain. Both those spells can be cast in stealth so....

    Wut?? I need to test this when I get home :D

    Yes please do. I don't imagine them nerfing NBs or destro staff ganking because the easy fix wasn't thought more in advance.

    The right move was to review the API and limit what you could do with it, not nerf the set.
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  • Apache_Kid
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.

    Pretty much this.
  • Waffennacht
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    If the full set is needed on all bars, then it's a big ol pile of #$&+
    Edited by Waffennacht on November 8, 2017 4:33PM
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    You can also get into combat by letting a friend start the gank. As long as you are close enough
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  • Ragnarock41
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    my bone pirate- alch build is kinda ruined now.
    Running agility and serpent instead. Not the same but close enough.
  • WhoThenNow7
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    Minno wrote: »
    And you can be in combat after casting mark/ele drain. Both those spells can be cast in stealth so....

    Is this only in cyrodiil? Because I tested both abilities in PVE and it did not put me in combat (xb1)
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    Minno wrote: »
    And you can be in combat after casting mark/ele drain. Both those spells can be cast in stealth so....

    Is this only in cyrodiil? Because I tested both abilities in PVE and it did not put me in combat (xb1)

    Wanted to test this myself and forgot but I was skeptical as well about those skills putting you in combat.
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.

    They literally said that they also want the set to be used strategically mid combat and not as a tool to one shot people out of stealth.
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    You also have to have all 5 pieces on front bar at the time and throughout the buff duration. No more 3 piece front bar and sword back bar.
    This is incorrect.

    I use the set on backbar on stamplar. PotL puts me in combat and I can swap to front bar which is just 3 piece CA without losing the buff.
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  • WhoThenNow7
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.

    They literally said that they also want the set to be used strategically mid combat and not as a tool to one shot people out of stealth.

    People could already do that before though.
  • pieratsos
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.

    They literally said that they also want the set to be used strategically mid combat and not as a tool to one shot people out of stealth.

    People could already do that before though.

    And they didnt touch that aspect. It changes nothing at all for those using it mid combat.

    It only changes for those using it to prebuff and gank which again, is what they dont want the set to be used for.
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    pieratsos wrote: »
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.

    They literally said that they also want the set to be used strategically mid combat and not as a tool to one shot people out of stealth.

    People could already do that before though.

    And they didnt touch that aspect. It changes nothing at all for those using it mid combat.

    It only changes for those using it to prebuff and gank which again, is what they dont want the set to be used for.

    Actually they just didn't like how PC players could use the buff, then use an add-on to immediately change all gear to another set while still maintaining the buff.

    It had nothing to do with playstyles
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  • Minno
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    pieratsos wrote: »
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.

    They literally said that they also want the set to be used strategically mid combat and not as a tool to one shot people out of stealth.

    People could already do that before though.

    And they didnt touch that aspect. It changes nothing at all for those using it mid combat.

    It only changes for those using it to prebuff and gank which again, is what they dont want the set to be used for.

    Actually they just didn't like how PC players could use the buff, then use an add-on to immediately change all gear to another set while still maintaining the buff.

    It had nothing to do with playstyles

    That and I think based on the stats they intended the set to be more of a hybrid brawler set. 2pc health is a good indication of that design intent.
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  • pieratsos
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    pieratsos wrote: »
    pieratsos wrote: »
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Instead of dealing with an add on that only affected 1 platform they took the easy way out and just nerfed the set instead.

    They literally said that they also want the set to be used strategically mid combat and not as a tool to one shot people out of stealth.

    People could already do that before though.

    And they didnt touch that aspect. It changes nothing at all for those using it mid combat.

    It only changes for those using it to prebuff and gank which again, is what they dont want the set to be used for.

    Actually they just didn't like how PC players could use the buff, then use an add-on to immediately change all gear to another set while still maintaining the buff.

    It had nothing to do with playstyles

    The addon thing was one reason.

    They also said that they want the set to be used strategically mid combat and not as a ganking set. I didnt make this up. They said it. So yeah it absolutely has everything to do with playstyles as well.
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    Just tested it on my stams'orc.

    Worked fine on my back bar.
    Edited by Ragnarock41 on November 12, 2017 7:09PM
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