What seems to be the best way to farm crystals?

GodAizen · November 2017

I was thinking pvp but I'm not sure

VaranisArano · November 2017

If you can PVP on multiple characters well enough to earn 20K AP on each one quickly, getting the first reward of the worthy mail, logging off, and getting on the next character for rinse repeat is the fastest method.

If you can't, I don't recommend this method.

Moloch1514 · November 2017

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you can PVP on multiple characters well enough to earn 20K AP on each one quickly, getting the first reward of the worthy mail, logging off, and getting on the next character for rinse repeat is the fastest method.

If you can't, I don't recommend this method.

This for sure. Just heal on your alts and it doesn't take long. I've transmuted 2 staves and still have 62 crystals now.

Edit: I am 95% a PvE player, btw.

Asardes · November 2017

The time needed to get that 20K AP is not a given though. If you end up in a static situation where no keeps are conquered and people are so balled together kills are hard to make it can take an hour or more. Probably the best times are just before and after peak hours when pop is 2-3 lines and there's no queue as the game is more dynamic then. I ended up on Vivec last night at top zerg time and made maybe 5K AP in half an hour trying to peel off and kill people from zergs but it was boring so I left and returned later when people had thinned up a bit and it took me less than 20 minutes to earn the remaining 15K.

ak_pvp · November 2017

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you can PVP on multiple characters well enough to earn 20K AP on each one quickly, getting the first reward of the worthy mail, logging off, and getting on the next character for rinse repeat is the fastest method.

If you can't, I don't recommend this method.

PvP on one char. Open a reward of the worthy. But DON'T click the other mails. Open them all on diff chars. 100% chance of crystals.

GodAizen · November 2017

If not pvp, then what other ways are faster?

SammyFable · November 2017

Doing each trial for the quest gives you a total of 30 crystals per week per character. Undaunted dailies will give you a purple geode (for vet hm) which can have 1-10 crystals.

GodAizen · November 2017

So 5 a trial?

PlagueSD · November 2017

SammyFable wrote: »

Doing each trial for the quest gives you a total of 30 crystals per week per character. Undaunted dailies will give you a purple geode (for vet hm) which can have 1-10 crystals.

Unless they fixed those, you'll be getting 1-2 crystals...I've NEVER seen one drop more than 5.

VaranisArano · November 2017

PlagueSD wrote: »

Unless they fixed those, you'll be getting 1-2 crystals...I've NEVER seen one drop more than 5.

Working as intended, no doubt. Unfortunately.

zaria · November 2017

Asardes wrote: »

The time needed to get that 20K AP is not a given though. If you end up in a static situation where no keeps are conquered and people are so balled together kills are hard to make it can take an hour or more. Probably the best times are just before and after peak hours when pop is 2-3 lines and there's no queue as the game is more dynamic then. I ended up on Vivec last night at top zerg time and made maybe 5K AP in half an hour trying to peel off and kill people from zergs but it was boring so I left and returned later when people had thinned up a bit and it took me less than 20 minutes to earn the remaining 15K.

Good tips, note that an 30 day campaign give 50 crystals at end of campaign if you have 100K AP.
You can keep this crystal in inventory or mail for 30 days until you need it..
It looks like they want players to do more trials and pvp.

This one is a bit confused in that to transmute, golden weapons with no traits sounds like an safe bet, yes.

Looeeze · November 2017

ak_pvp wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you can PVP on multiple characters well enough to earn 20K AP on each one quickly, getting the first reward of the worthy mail, logging off, and getting on the next character for rinse repeat is the fastest method.

If you can't, I don't recommend this method.

PvP on one char. Open a reward of the worthy. But DON'T click the other mails. Open them all on diff chars. 100% chance of crystals.

I am confused, is this a glitch?

My brain isn't working, nomatter how many times I read your post I can make no sense of it. Sorry! Can someone explain like I am five?

SanTii.92 · November 2017

ak_pvp wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you can PVP on multiple characters well enough to earn 20K AP on each one quickly, getting the first reward of the worthy mail, logging off, and getting on the next character for rinse repeat is the fastest method.

If you can't, I don't recommend this method.

PvP on one char. Open a reward of the worthy. But DON'T click the other mails. Open them all on diff chars. 100% chance of crystals.

Is this for real.

SanTii.92 · November 2017

SanTii.92 wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you can PVP on multiple characters well enough to earn 20K AP on each one quickly, getting the first reward of the worthy mail, logging off, and getting on the next character for rinse repeat is the fastest method.

If you can't, I don't recommend this method.

PvP on one char. Open a reward of the worthy. But DON'T click the other mails. Open them all on diff chars. 100% chance of crystals.

Is this for real.

Oh god it is, thanks mate.

VaranisArano · November 2017

So if you get multiple rewards of the worthy on one character (which should mean that you have only gotten 1 geode from the first reward of the worthy you earned) but you open the rest on different characters, do those count as the first reward of the worthy earned in order to get the geode even though that character did not earn the AP to get the reward of the worthy?

If that's the case, that's a blatant exploit and rewards of the worthy geodes need to be locked to the character that earned them.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · November 2017

ak_pvp wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

If you can PVP on multiple characters well enough to earn 20K AP on each one quickly, getting the first reward of the worthy mail, logging off, and getting on the next character for rinse repeat is the fastest method.

If you can't, I don't recommend this method.

PvP on one char. Open a reward of the worthy. But DON'T click the other mails. Open them all on diff chars. 100% chance of crystals.

Why would you post this rule one of bugs the ones that make the grind better are kept under wraps for as long as possible.

BrightOblivion · November 2017

zaria wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

The time needed to get that 20K AP is not a given though. If you end up in a static situation where no keeps are conquered and people are so balled together kills are hard to make it can take an hour or more. Probably the best times are just before and after peak hours when pop is 2-3 lines and there's no queue as the game is more dynamic then. I ended up on Vivec last night at top zerg time and made maybe 5K AP in half an hour trying to peel off and kill people from zergs but it was boring so I left and returned later when people had thinned up a bit and it took me less than 20 minutes to earn the remaining 15K.

Good tips, note that an 30 day campaign give 50 crystals at end of campaign if you have 100K AP.
You can keep this crystal in inventory or mail for 30 days until you need it..
It looks like they want players to do more trials and pvp.

This one is a bit confused in that to transmute, golden weapons with no traits sounds like an safe bet, yes.

While yes, the 30 day campaign rewards 50 crystals, it's not true that you need 100k AP. If you get an end of campaign mail, it will contain a geode. Therefore, all you need is the 25k AP to hit tier 1 rewards.

Regarding those clamoring for "fixing' the "exploit," good luck with that. Nothing about the mail beyond the conditions for receiving it is locked to a per-character basis in terms of who can retrieve attachments. Not money from sales, not hireling stuff, and not this. In fact, if you change characters, the mails with addresses then have their name, giving a look into how the system's set up.

Given the choice between them reworking the entire mail system, creating untold bugs and generally making it less covenient for everyone, or leaving it as-is, I'd leave it as is, thanks. Besides, as we've covered repeatedly, ZOS has the final say on what's an exploit, not you or I. Given their typical reaction to posts detailing exploits, and that no such action has been taken, one can reasonably guess it hasn't risen to that level yet. They're aware of it, as it's been reported by several people, and...nothing.

Unless one wants to argue they're incompetent, in which case calling for the level of work it would take to "fix" this, when it's not even negatively impacting people's gameplay, taking time from other actual fixes and creating more issues, makes even less sense.

To be honest, I'd be more inclined to call it an oddity or system eccentricity than a full-blown exploit.

Runefang · November 2017

GodAizen wrote: »

So 5 a trial?

Yeah, so if you have multiple characters and a guild who want to do crystal runs you'll get them very quickly that way. Most normal trials can be done in 15-20 minutes or so with a good group.

Shadzilla · November 2017

VaranisArano wrote: »

So if you get multiple rewards of the worthy on one character (which should mean that you have only gotten 1 geode from the first reward of the worthy you earned) but you open the rest on different characters, do those count as the first reward of the worthy earned in order to get the geode even though that character did not earn the AP to get the reward of the worthy?

If that's the case, that's a blatant exploit and rewards of the worthy geodes need to be locked to the character that earned them.

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zaria · November 2017

BrightOblivion wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

The time needed to get that 20K AP is not a given though. If you end up in a static situation where no keeps are conquered and people are so balled together kills are hard to make it can take an hour or more. Probably the best times are just before and after peak hours when pop is 2-3 lines and there's no queue as the game is more dynamic then. I ended up on Vivec last night at top zerg time and made maybe 5K AP in half an hour trying to peel off and kill people from zergs but it was boring so I left and returned later when people had thinned up a bit and it took me less than 20 minutes to earn the remaining 15K.

Good tips, note that an 30 day campaign give 50 crystals at end of campaign if you have 100K AP.
You can keep this crystal in inventory or mail for 30 days until you need it..
It looks like they want players to do more trials and pvp.

This one is a bit confused in that to transmute, golden weapons with no traits sounds like an safe bet, yes.

While yes, the 30 day campaign rewards 50 crystals, it's not true that you need 100k AP. If you get an end of campaign mail, it will contain a geode. Therefore, all you need is the 25k AP to hit tier 1 rewards.

Regarding those clamoring for "fixing' the "exploit," good luck with that. Nothing about the mail beyond the conditions for receiving it is locked to a per-character basis in terms of who can retrieve attachments. Not money from sales, not hireling stuff, and not this. In fact, if you change characters, the mails with addresses then have their name, giving a look into how the system's set up.

Given the choice between them reworking the entire mail system, creating untold bugs and generally making it less covenient for everyone, or leaving it as-is, I'd leave it as is, thanks. Besides, as we've covered repeatedly, ZOS has the final say on what's an exploit, not you or I. Given their typical reaction to posts detailing exploits, and that no such action has been taken, one can reasonably guess it hasn't risen to that level yet. They're aware of it, as it's been reported by several people, and...nothing.

Unless one wants to argue they're incompetent, in which case calling for the level of work it would take to "fix" this, when it's not even negatively impacting people's gameplay, taking time from other actual fixes and creating more issues, makes even less sense.

To be honest, I'd be more inclined to call it an oddity or system eccentricity than a full-blown exploit.

Ty, even better, then I have two from Kyne even if only 10

The only thing exploit about this is that you can open another character mail for the geode.
That one is questionable, character should earn it themselves. Yes this is would be an nerf for pvp scrubs like this one, getting an nice zerg you want to run with it

i fully agree on giving PvP and trials and bonus here to get more players doing the scary PvP and trials

And yes zergs and normal trials is so scary, scary for people who queue as fake healer in vet dungeons

then being fake DD

zaria · November 2017

Shadzilla wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

So if you get multiple rewards of the worthy on one character (which should mean that you have only gotten 1 geode from the first reward of the worthy you earned) but you open the rest on different characters, do those count as the first reward of the worthy earned in order to get the geode even though that character did not earn the AP to get the reward of the worthy?

If that's the case, that's a blatant exploit and rewards of the worthy geodes need to be locked to the character that earned them.

Khajiit is innocent.

Caligamy_ESO · November 2017

You know its an exploit when anyone who brings it up is instantly attacked by the PVP community and told to keep it quiet.

Example; see the bug reports thread on the same subject.

VaranisArano · November 2017

This exploit with Rewards of the Worthy is indeed true, and yes, its an exploit, enabling you to gain extra transmutation geodes as if they were the first reward of the worthy you gained on characters who never even went into PVP. I tested it, reported it and will be submitting a bug report in the forums. ZOS is mroe than welcome to take away the 28 extra transmutation stones that I got using the exploit for testing. Ticket # 171101-003504

To PVP players using this exploit, I have two things to say.

1. PVE players are already complaining about PVP players getting more stones from Rewards of the Worthy. Let's show a little honor here, and not abuse a mechanic that gives us even more stones than intended.

2. The intended system allows you to PVP enough on each character to get a reward of the worthy on each character. If you can't PVP your way to 20k on every character, get good, and don't use the exploit. All you skill-based players? Show some skill and earn your stones.

Looeeze · November 2017

My worry is that they will make it so gems cannot be gained from PVP atall, therefore alienating players like me and many others who don't trial or dungeon very much.

The DLC hasn't even got to the consoles yet... here's hoping IF they do fix the exploit it is a fix and not a removal because I wanna be able to earn gems too!!! *stomps feet in a tantrum*