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Remove all CP campaigns + battlegrounds
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Mannix1958✭✭✭✭keep cpI think we should dump those under populated non-cp campaigns. They are underpopulated for a reason.
<Just trolling the Devil's advocate stand>
I think its wise to have both....0 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpVaranisArano wrote: »If you don't like CP PVP, head your way over to the Non-CP campaigns with all the like-minded folks and have fun! You can avoid all the "CP brokeness" that you hate and just can't bear to deal with. Good news! You've got the No CP campaigns for that.
(And if they don't have the population you hoped for, maybe you need to look at recruitment, rather than trying to force players who prefer the CP campaigns into your No CP campaigns.)
I think the problem OP is facing is that non-CP campaigns are basically empty, so he has no one to play with. So the only option is to force players to play the way HE wants so he has people to play with. Clearly ZOS has seen the numbers and knows that the majority of players don't want to have their hard-earned CP taken away from them in any content. This is also why ZOS has the 'catch-up' system that speeds up earning of CP points... so in reality, the only players that are hurt by lack of CP are casual players and those who don't play often. So, why should an MMO cater to players who aren't even playing enough to gain CP? Most experienced MMO players understand that you need to EARN your way to the top, not expect to have it handed to you.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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joaaocaampos✭✭✭✭✭The Elder Scrolls Online... year: 20??... We are all CP 3600... What would the fights be like? Is Zenimax going to have nerf skills because of CP?
My opinion? It's cool that you choose between CP and non-CP, BUT ... CP is something PvE. CP is about getting stronger to face powerful monsters. What's the point of you having 25% bonus on Elemental Expert, if your enemy will get 25% bonus on Elemental Defender?0 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I just can not understand, why there is a non-cp OR cp option and level slider for LFG tool0 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭keep cpI like CP campaigns. I worked hard to gain my CP and I use them to make shield stacking players miserable.
Non CP is boring for me.0 -
Fishstrom✭✭✭remove cpI do like CP, but it is a must for it to be removed. I would balance Cyrodiil better and also reduces the lag, we would all just have to get used to it.1 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭keep cpI do like CP, but it is a must for it to be removed. I would balance Cyrodiil better and also reduces the lag, we would all just have to get used to it.
Zos experimented with no CP in Cyrodiil, and we still had massive lag and crashes to desktop when in large battles.
Zos didn't experiment with destro ultis yet. I vote for one week without these. I bet lag will be next to nonexistent comparing to what we have atm.1 -
KingMagaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭remove cpThere should be:
NO CP BG
CP BG
NO CP 30 day
CP 30 day
NO CP 7 day
CP 7 day
It is that simple - I dont know why ZOS hasnt done so.1 -
AdamBourke✭✭✭✭✭keep cpFor all PvP there should be a no-CP option, but They should still be there for people who like them.PS4 - EU
Please put the Eyevea/EarthForge wayshrines back on the map?0 -
Rainraven✭✭✭✭✭They seem to have decided to go the other way with it: PVP as endgame-only, don't even bother showing up if you're not 600+ CP and guilded up. That's what I see in the change to BGs: *** everybody but max levels who want every possible advantage even if it means nobody ever dies. Cyrodiil gets no love, BGs are the future of PVP in ESO. Such as it is.
It's a shame, non-CP was better. And as usual it doesn't matter in the slightest what my opinion of this is.1 -
LokoMatic✭✭✭remove cpAt least there are options for Cyrodiil. ZOS took away CP from BG's with literally no explanation. It was an unpopular decision before they did it, and it is even worse now. R.I.P enjoyable PVP.Harbingers of Death
Poison Injection
Cp 910+
Dark Elf DK - Grand Overlord - (Xbox) NA - 129K Kills
Orc Stamblade - Level 10 (Xbox)
Argonian Templar - Level 23 (PC) (Auriels Bow Graduate (Retired))1 -
lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cp
It has only attributed to seasoned pvpers leaving the scene altogether.notimetocare wrote: »OOOOOOOR
CP campaigns for those that want it
Non-CP campaigns for those that don't...
lol
Good, gives other players incentive to move in without fear of being dominated by the guy who's been playing 4 years.
If those seasoned players thought CP campaigns were imbalanced they would have joined non-CP campaigns instead of quitting.Edited by lagrue on October 31, 2017 5:58PM"You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"0 -
Onefrkncrzypope✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cpIts sets and the block cost jewelry enchant. they should have a damage reduction on the enchant so it is less desirable in pvp and doesn't hurt PvE. Cp is a problem but removing it would hurt classes more than others(DKs). The only reason that no CP was populated during that week event was the double AP. look at the no CP campaigns, they are dead on PS4.-Immortal Redeemer-
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If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....0 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cp100% L2P Post here people just move on nothing more to see be OP is one of those guys who gets Xv1 or gets farmed by a few people in a tower lol0 -
starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭keep cpredspecter23 wrote: »How about just remove heavy armor from pvp. Or remove damage shields. Or remove breath of life. Or dark cloak. Or basically anything else that some percentage of the population believes is the cause of the death of pvp.
Don't forget,... Templers need to be nerfed... again."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."0 -
VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭keep cpWhy don't they change it so we go into Cyrodiil naked and only fight with our fists - but keep the CP of course!@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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Eleanour Masterham - Breton Templar
Elise Masterham - Breton Magicka Nightblade
Elinora Valen - Dunmer MagDK
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpThere is barely any action going on in the non CP campaigns whenever I look
so your solution is... to remove the campaigns people actualy like playing in?dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
FlamingBeard✭✭✭✭✭remove cpChampion Points break PvP, no question about it.
It's not front-loaded like the combat devs claimed to want, since you need at least 300 CP to reach your max stat threshold and then anyone above you still has many percentages of more damage, damage reduction, and resource sustain.
To developers: front-load PvP which would enable a more skill/strategy-based environment with high pressure and difficult survival, like you claim to want instead of catering to the Champion Point Children, and leave the min-maxing to end-game PvE.Edited by FlamingBeard on October 31, 2017 6:58PM0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpI think why this is a bad idea has been covered.
I am going to point out you can ignore the tanks and some of the 4 killing six thing you see is simply four really good players that have been grouping for a very long time whomping groups that are not as experienced or organized. Some of these really good groups make sure that every piece of armor and every skill benefits the group in some way. They are a group working together instead of some people in a mob all doing their own thing.
And we might as well toss in some of what you see is the cheat that the powers that be seem to be unwilling to address.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpThere is barely any action going on in the non CP campaigns whenever I look
Then make it happen. Bring your friends. Flip keeps. Go for emp.
The non-CP campaign is your oyster.
Let people have options (ie, if there are no non-CP Battlegrounds atm, they should exist)
The Moot Councillor0 -
ashl3y44✭✭remove cpI way preferred no cp battlegrounds it actually required some skill todo660 High elf mag sorc, Argonian templar healer, & Dark elf mag Dk.1 -
Amadis001✭✭✭✭keep cpWhy do you want to force me to play the way that you want to play? Go do what you want and leave me alone.// Amadis of Gaul -- DK Nord (Lvl 50 CP 1000)0
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MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpNo.
Not unless they separated IC from Cyrodiil, because there is a zero percent chance I'll bother with the Sewers on a no-CP campaign. Everything takes forever. My time is way more valuable than that.
And actually, even if they did separate them? Still no."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭remove cpWe should just get rid of all CP campaigns & battlegrounds.
all I see in Cyrodiil is people pure tanking 1v10+ and that never die.
or 2-4 people camp a resource and take on 20 players and instant kill at least 6+ at once with one dawnbreaker.
I as well see players who are no where near max CP like a level 50 / 14cp player going out and try and just fail due to being at a huge disadvantage.
then there is the constant CP changing to do PVE content then paying another 3k to go back into cp campaign. Sure you could just go into a no cp campaign but on NA. We have a campaign where people boost for EMP and is all EP and low populated DC & AD.
Sotha Sil whenever I look is usually always 1 bar on all factions.
Basically: no one likes to play the way you want to play, so you want to change the rules so they are forced to play with you?
No, we want to change the system cause its not viable and destroying PVP.1 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭keep cpWe should just get rid of all CP campaigns & battlegrounds.
all I see in Cyrodiil is people pure tanking 1v10+ and that never die.
or 2-4 people camp a resource and take on 20 players and instant kill at least 6+ at once with one dawnbreaker.
I as well see players who are no where near max CP like a level 50 / 14cp player going out and try and just fail due to being at a huge disadvantage.
then there is the constant CP changing to do PVE content then paying another 3k to go back into cp campaign. Sure you could just go into a no cp campaign but on NA. We have a campaign where people boost for EMP and is all EP and low populated DC & AD.
Sotha Sil whenever I look is usually always 1 bar on all factions.
Basically: no one likes to play the way you want to play, so you want to change the rules so they are forced to play with you?
No, we want to change the system cause its not viable and destroying PVP.
But why are more people playing on CP if it's so cancerous?0
