Had to relog to fix keyboard problem now i'm the one punished?

Karius_Imalthar · October 2017

Had to relog to fix keyboard problem now i'm the one punished? Impatient group kicked me and now I can't requeue for a dungeon.

ereboz · October 2017

That's ridiculous. They need to fix that. There's a lot of reasons you leave a group. Shouldn't get penalized for it. Especially if it's a technical issue

VaranisArano · October 2017

How exactly is ZOS supposed to judge between totally justifiably leaving a dungeon group and someone who left for unjustifiable reasons?

An impatient group kicked you. I'm sorry, that sucks. Poor form on their part. At least, the plus side of waiting out the queue is that you probably won't get re-queued with them to fill their missing role.

AzraelKrieg · October 2017

Impatient group kicked you and that's ZOS's problem how?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · October 2017

have a little understanding that the groups time is just as important as yours, so three people waiting vs one.

Karius_Imalthar · October 2017

My suggestion would be a minimum amount of time. For example, if kicked within five minutes then no penalty. I understand both sides. I understand 3 other player's time is important but why punish, let's say, someone who is deemed unacceptable?

sevomd69 · October 2017

If me and my buddies are in a dungeon and a PUG DC's then we will always wait for a while to see if they come back...we might go kill the mobs up to a boss, but we will wait for the DC'd person before we fight the boss...b/c we know how frustrating it is to be kicked for something out of our control...

IronCrystal · October 2017

If I didn't know why you left the dungeon, I'd have kicked an offline player as well especially if its an important role like healer/tank because the queue takes forever.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · October 2017

Karius_Imalthar wrote: »

My suggestion would be a minimum amount of time. For example, if kicked within five minutes then no penalty. I understand both sides. I understand 3 other player's time is important but why punish, let's say, someone who is deemed unacceptable?

If you insist on seeing it as a punishment, look at it like a learning experience, if you keep getting kicked because you are "unacceptable"(this term could mean anything) then you get 15 minutes to reflect on what you are doing wrong and time to think about how to improve. If you didn't have that time you could just que over and over and either ruin 3 other people's time because they have to deal with your inadequacy or they boot you and they have to wait for a replacement, so having the 15 minute timer provides insentive to get better, so you are not kicked.

For the op problem, technical issues outside the ops control, you can't really expect people to wait, they have no idea how long you will be gone and some people just have like enough time to run the dungeon in a timely manner. So buck up and move on.

Magdalina · October 2017

Did you warn your group you needed to relog(or were you unable to do so because of keyboard issue?)? Imho good tone is generally giving the unexpectedly offline person 2-5 minutes(possible crash), then kicking(unless there was a prior warning and everyone is chill waiting). However it's weird if you got queue penalty for being kicked - the few times I got kicked I never got it. If it's been changed they should indeed revert it because a person shouldn't be punished for other people forcing him to leave.

Apache_Kid · October 2017

How about when you get queued for a dungeon, try to port in, and it says the instance is full even though there are only 4 people in the group? And then you try to join for multiple minutes but it still isn't working, so you have to leave the group and get a 15 minute penalty due to the activity finder being broken for what seems like a year. So many times you are stuck with this 15 minute penalty due to no fault of your own.

Furthermore, if I am trying to complete a pledge and i join a group that already has one of the bosses for the pledge quest killed, I should IMMEDIATELY get the credit for the bosses they killed. Otherwise what is the incentive for me to complete the dungeon? As someone with limited play-time because I am an adult with like actual responsibilities my options are to either finish the dungeon and not complete my pledge here-by wasting my time as the pledge completion was the only reason I was doing the dungeon, or leave and sit out the 15 minute penalty.

The penalty needs to be in the game because of how people would abuse the activity finder but when the activity finder itself is broken and there are inherent flaws in how pledges are supposed to be completed by a fill in for a group, it's one of the most frustrating things to sit through the penalty. Especially when it's ZoS's fault that I had to leave the group (full instance bug).

Nestor · October 2017

IronCrystal wrote: »

If I didn't know why you left the dungeon, I'd have kicked an offline player as well especially if its an important role like healer/tank because the queue takes forever.

Well, if they had a keyboard issue, kind of hard to type out the reason for re-logging.

Anyway, if the group member in question was doing a decent job, I will give them 3 or 4 minutes if I see them go off line. Lots of reasons for that can occur, ISP issues, power issues, etc etc. After about 5 minutes, the group gets polled as to kick and replace or wait.