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Remove all CP campaigns + battlegrounds
oMrRust
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We should just get rid of all CP campaigns & battlegrounds.
all I see in Cyrodiil is people pure tanking 1v10+ and that never die.
or 2-4 people camp a resource and take on 20 players and instant kill at least 6+ at once with one dawnbreaker.
I as well see players who are no where near max CP like a level 50 / 14cp player going out and try and just fail due to being at a huge disadvantage.
then there is the constant CP changing to do PVE content then paying another 3k to go back into cp campaign. Sure you could just go into a no cp campaign but on NA. We have a campaign where people boost for EMP and is all EP and low populated DC & AD.
Sotha Sil whenever I look is usually always 1 bar on all factions.
Edited by oMrRust on October 30, 2017 11:07PM all I see in Cyrodiil is people pure tanking 1v10+ and that never die.
or 2-4 people camp a resource and take on 20 players and instant kill at least 6+ at once with one dawnbreaker.
I as well see players who are no where near max CP like a level 50 / 14cp player going out and try and just fail due to being at a huge disadvantage.
then there is the constant CP changing to do PVE content then paying another 3k to go back into cp campaign. Sure you could just go into a no cp campaign but on NA. We have a campaign where people boost for EMP and is all EP and low populated DC & AD.
Sotha Sil whenever I look is usually always 1 bar on all factions.
Remove all CP campaigns + battlegrounds 220 votes
remove cp
35%
79 votes
keep cp
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141 votes
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AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭remove cpRemove CP from PvP.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 501 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cpOOOOOOOR
CP campaigns for those that want it
Non-CP campaigns for those that don't...
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Smmokkee✭✭✭✭✭remove cpnotimetocare wrote: »OOOOOOOR
CP campaigns for those that want it
Non-CP campaigns for those that don't...
lol
Doesn't change anything. CP PVP is broken. CP has no place in pvp and, it has only attributed to seasoned pvpers leaving the scene altogether. If they don't want to remove CP then cap CP at 300 in pvp.
You don't leave something broken just because people like it.Edited by Smmokkee on October 30, 2017 11:21PM7 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How about just remove heavy armor from pvp. Or remove damage shields. Or remove breath of life. Or dark cloak. Or basically anything else that some percentage of the population believes is the cause of the death of pvp.10 -
Kanar✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cpWe should just get rid of all CP campaigns & battlegrounds.
all I see in Cyrodiil is people pure tanking 1v10+ and that never die.
or 2-4 people camp a resource and take on 20 players and instant kill at least 6+ at once with one dawnbreaker.
I as well see players who are no where near max CP like a level 50 / 14cp player going out and try and just fail due to being at a huge disadvantage.
then there is the constant CP changing to do PVE content then paying another 3k to go back into cp campaign. Sure you could just go into a no cp campaign but on NA. We have a campaign where people boost for EMP and is all EP and low populated DC & AD.
Sotha Sil whenever I look is usually always 1 bar on all factions.
Basically: no one likes to play the way you want to play, so you want to change the rules so they are forced to play with you?11 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭keep cpIn Cyrodiil pvp, tanks can be avoided. In Battlegrounds, not so much."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power0 -
Savos_Saren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭keep cpThey should have a CP Battlegrounds and a Non-CP Battlegrounds. The same goes for Cyrodiil. That way, players can choose.
You've got to give veteran players credit for all the time they spend gaining experience in-game. If you put a new player on even playing grounds with a player that's been with ESO since launch... then it doesn't seem very rewarding, does it? Individuals need something to constantly strive for. They need to feel like they're reaching the "next level".
Hell... why not just make all players level one with all skills unlocked then, right? Let's see how fun that would be.
To say that all campaigns and battlegrounds should be non-CP, it makes me think that you're a CP160 or below guy that wants all the rewards for the minimum amount of effort.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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Savos Saren3 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭remove cpPopulation imbalance and certain heavy armor sets when combined that do too much damage and healing being exploited is killing PvP. Heavy armor by itself is not the problem.
Edited by TequilaFire on October 31, 2017 12:24AM0 -
nevik073✭keep cphmm, let's see... hardly anyone plays in the non-CP campaigns, so therefore the logical thing to do is take away the campaigns that most people are participating in. I think that's a crazy bad idea.2
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Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭remove cpRemove CP
Actually I think many more people would play non CP campaign if it was not ZERG town by EP1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpYou will find this a losing argument for the obvious reasons.
Also, if all you see in Cyrodiil is tank build you are not looking around much.2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpIf you don't like CP PVP, head your way over to the Non-CP campaigns with all the like-minded folks and have fun! You can avoid all the "CP brokeness" that you hate and just can't bear to deal with. Good news! You've got the No CP campaigns for that.
(And if they don't have the population you hoped for, maybe you need to look at recruitment, rather than trying to force players who prefer the CP campaigns into your No CP campaigns.)2 -
mwo1480✭✭✭✭Edited by mwo1480 on October 31, 2017 1:18AMeu/pc
every char has a story
anne-susan ...breton sorch DC
seline kay .... bosmer dk AD
elle wolf .... breton temp AD
fluffy meowmeow... khajiit-nightblade AD
Lynphia Moonlit ...Woodmer-arcanist AD7 -
Alaztor91✭✭✭✭✭
✭remove cpI barely PvP but I never understood the appeal that CP campaign gets vs Non-CP.
I get it that CPs kinda fill that progression feeling that PvE players seek and that players probably get used to rely on them for their builds and that might make things feel weird when you don't have them, but imo the base for a good PvP game is fairness.
If you don't take into consideration the advantages that you may or may not have already via gear, consumables, latency, faction population, etc you still start with the advantages(or disadvantages) that you get via your CPs.
If you put a new player vs a veteran player in PvP, the vet's experience in the game alone should be enough advantage already, I mean if you always want to have an edge vs another player in PvP and never fight him on even terms, then what's the point of PvPing in the first place?
And even tho you will face other players at max CP, if PvP wouldn't have to take CPs into consideration ZOS could have an easier time balancing it and probably without it affecting PvE.3 -
themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cpLol i love how people here tend to humiliate endgame players all the time. WHY exactly an endgame player should be balanced to some level 10 player who will probably take a look around and then leave anyways? And as stated, non-cp campaigns already exist, what in oblivion do you guys want from high cp players?
PS: Tanks used to die -not too easily but still- until people here started to qq about how op burst builds are, how nobody can stand against them etc. Everytime someone dies they come here and cry. I think that's what ZoS should nerf.PC|EU1 -
Agalloch✭✭✭✭✭keep cpLook at campaigns ..why Vivec is the most populated ? Because is CP enabled.
In battlegrounds we should have also a non cp option for the people who want this.
Also we must have an option to choose which type of game want to play.
English is not my native language.0 -
Runschei✭✭✭✭✭
✭remove cpI myself play without cp and I wouldn't be mad if they removed cp, but I wouldn't be mad if they kept cp in certain campaigns eitherEdited by Runschei on October 31, 2017 7:24AM0 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭keep cpI barely PvP but I never understood the appeal that CP campaign gets vs Non-CP.
I get it that CPs kinda fill that progression feeling that PvE players seek and that players probably get used to rely on them for their builds and that might make things feel weird when you don't have them, but imo the base for a good PvP game is fairness.
If you don't take into consideration the advantages that you may or may not have already via gear, consumables, latency, faction population, etc you still start with the advantages(or disadvantages) that you get via your CPs.
If you put a new player vs a veteran player in PvP, the vet's experience in the game alone should be enough advantage already, I mean if you always want to have an edge vs another player in PvP and never fight him on even terms, then what's the point of PvPing in the first place?
And even tho you will face other players at max CP, if PvP wouldn't have to take CPs into consideration ZOS could have an easier time balancing it and probably without it affecting PvE.
For those new players... they can always use the under 50 or no cp campaign if they feel in the disadvantage bc of not being at the max. At the latest when they reach cp cap the field is even again.
Otherwise, if you barely pvp at all, why voting for removing part of things you don't even understand?0 -
Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cpI mostly go to Cyrodiil to complete the town quests and delves (Tamriel Hero and Explorer titles). When I do, I enjoy having my fast node harvesting CP perk. It may seem silly to some, but this is the main reason why I choose CP campaigns. I tend to avoid fights whenever I can, anyway.Edited by Khenarthi on October 31, 2017 7:43AMPC-EU1 -
Azurya✭✭✭✭✭
✭keep cpall PvP should be removed, then we wouldn´t have all the nerf threads and all the useless other threads here.
Make it possible! HANX!
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Dunnn✭✭✭keep cpNo. This is a terrible idea.
We have non-CP campaigns and CP campaigns for this very reason.
If we are going by your school of thought, why don't we then get rid of Veteran dungeons so everyone has a more fair and balanced playing experience...
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D'ar Nomad [Khajit Stamblade EP]
Pepe Sillvia [Wood Elf Stamblade EP]
Trips-Over-Tail [Argonian Crafter! EP]1 -
Bakkagami✭✭✭keep cpUnless i'm wrong, there are cp and non-cp campaigns... if the non-cp campaign isn't as full as the cp campaign, what logic would make you think there is a demand for all non-cp campaigns? I've played both and find both just fine, tanks exist and are counterable and killable in both, if you run into a 4 man group that is better than you, you will get wiped in both... the issue at hand isn't cp, it's your skill level.
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Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭notimetocare wrote: »OOOOOOOR
CP campaigns for those that want it
Non-CP campaigns for those that don't...
lol
This is how it is now but op isnt satisfied enough due to his non cp campaigns being dead and boring because only scubs go in there. So now he wants to force non cp on all of us. And of course this wont happen0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭keep cpnotimetocare wrote: »OOOOOOOR
CP campaigns for those that want it
Non-CP campaigns for those that don't...
lol
Doesn't change anything. CP PVP is broken. CP has no place in pvp and, it has only attributed to seasoned pvpers leaving the scene altogether. If they don't want to remove CP then cap CP at 300 in pvp.
You don't leave something broken just because people like it.
Lol wut? If seasoned pvpers didn’t like cp the could go to Sotha. Most of the streamers I know stay in CP and vivec no less. CP PvP is just fine.0
