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It is totally Unfair ZOS
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »You lost your low level battle leveling and ending up with 10k to 16K unbuffed health is normal after level 50.
Happens to all not just SORCS.
totally freaked me out the first time it happened and I was actually paying attention to my stats...
seriously - i was like what the heck is going on...
some of the most OP players in the game are rocking level 40 something toons...
Yeah you gotta be leery when a low level character challenges you to a duel. Some of them are gonna knock ya on yer ...and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Jigger_allard✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »Yea, I find it all extremely confusing. But, I am here to have fun and to socialize. And, while I want to learn the mechanics of the game, I am not in competition with none one here. (Besides, I hate PvP.) I don't have to be the best of the best nor is that my goal. I just want the ability to deal damage, stay alive and be a team player.
story of my life right there - and, eso in particular
i'm scared to really even consider the amount of thought and effort i've put in to my different characters...wish i was a little more enthused about real life stuff...
you'll get there @***_allard ...it's tough, but, try to stay patient...
Patience is not one of my virtues. But thanks!2 -
Jigger_allard✭✭✭My stamblade sits around 18-22k health. That's standard for DPS. If you have issues with survivability, maybe you need to look at your skills. Right now, sorcs are probably the most OP class right now, so it's about time they get to feel the "nerf bat". Welcome to what the rest of us have been experiencing over the last 2 years. ZOS makes changes, you either adapt or quit. It's that simple.
Nice attitude! But that's typical of corporate America isn't, *** the customer.0 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭***_allard wrote: »It is totally unfair how you....ZOS....continue to morph the SORCs, because of a few crybabies who cannot compete with them in PvP: Because they don't want to put the time and effort into building their Toon in order to compete like the SORCs have.
I wasn't satisfied with my Breton Magicka SORC despite the fact that she was at CP260 and dressed in 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder. I wasn't satisfied because she was still too damn squishy and her health and DPS was terrible.
As a result, I created another Toon, a High Elf Magicka SORC this time. Low and behold she had better health, stamina, and DPS. So, while I brought her up through the low levels her health after consuming food was up around 18,000 t0 20,000. And now, having reached CP260 my High Elf Magicka SORC's health has fallen to 17,000 even after coming food. What is the heck up with that ZOS? (I also replaced her crappy armor and staffs with those from my Breton--- the 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder.)
"Oh, that's right! It's the player's fault. I keep forgetting. Sorry!?!"
Okay, so now let's hear it? Thank you.
Noobs... they are so abundant...
Make sure all the enchants are the same?
Using all the right buffs?
Is your first sorc lv9 undaunted with 5/1/1?
Trust this entire forum, the problem is somewhere on you and not a nerf to sorc lol2 -
KRBMMO✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »It is totally unfair how you....ZOS....continue to morph the SORCs, because of a few crybabies who cannot compete with them in PvP: Because they don't want to put the time and effort into building their Toon in order to compete like the SORCs have.
I wasn't satisfied with my Breton Magicka SORC despite the fact that she was at CP260 and dressed in 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder. I wasn't satisfied because she was still too damn squishy and her health and DPS was terrible.
As a result, I created another Toon, a High Elf Magicka SORC this time. Low and behold she had better health, stamina, and DPS. So, while I brought her up through the low levels her health after consuming food was up around 18,000 t0 20,000. And now, having reached CP260 my High Elf Magicka SORC's health has fallen to 17,000 even after coming food. What is the heck up with that ZOS? (I also replaced her crappy armor and staffs with those from my Breton--- the 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder.)
"Oh, that's right! It's the player's fault. I keep forgetting. Sorry!?!"
Okay, so now let's hear it? Thank you.
Why you got 5 / 5 / 2 on a Mag SORC? That's your first problem. Ok, maybe Dual wield is possible with another build but with Necropotence and Julianos? Unless you are an advanced player you need a staff to weave attacks and regain Magica with heavy attacks.
Second Problem - Health on a Mag sorc is pretty low in importance. Max magica is more important. If you have all your points in Magica just use Hardened Ward every six seconds or more frequently if you get hit really hard. In PvE you should never die with Hardened Ward and some kind of heal over time ability. If you are still too squishy use a second magica shield, lol.0 -
Jigger_allard✭✭✭i run my sorc at 16k health and have no issues with shields fed by 43k magicka,. You have options, is your undaunted skill line fully levelled?.. is it so important to wear seven divines pieces?... why not five divines and two infused (chest and legs) with tri-glyphs.. if you are squishy and struggling then the small loss of magicka from a large magicka pool for a pretty big gain in health and stamina is worth it, you wont barely notice a change in your dps but your survivability will rocket. Are you running witchmother? that carries way less health than a blue food, do you shield up and ensure surge is on a 100% uptime.. Think survivabilty not pretty stats... the stats will start to come when you go over 300cp
No, my undaunted passives aren't available yet. As for the armor, I am just going by what I have been told and what I have read. It seems that everybody has differing opinions on these sorc builds. Plus, I don't have enough gold to keep rearranging my champion points, let alone make armor and staffs. Plus, I don't have the skills to make my own crap.
As for food, I have at my disposal the following:
1.) Blue Orzora's Red Frothgar (for Health and Magicka recovery.)
2.) Blue Solitude Salmon-Millet Soup (For Health and Magicka)
As for power surge, I have no idea how to keep it up all the time--unless I am just supposed to keep spamming it. Besides, I have had my shield up and have still gotten one-shotted.
"Well, you probably put it up too early? You got to watch what the boss is doing while dancing around what they are throwing at you and the red, green, yellow, or blue aoes. Meanwhile, you have to also keep an eye on the ads too."0 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »***_allard wrote: »Yea, I find it all extremely confusing. But, I am here to have fun and to socialize. And, while I want to learn the mechanics of the game, I am not in competition with none one here. (Besides, I hate PvP.) I don't have to be the best of the best nor is that my goal. I just want the ability to deal damage, stay alive and be a team player.
story of my life right there - and, eso in particular
i'm scared to really even consider the amount of thought and effort i've put in to my different characters...wish i was a little more enthused about real life stuff...
you'll get there @***_allard ...it's tough, but, try to stay patient...
Patience is not one of my virtues. But thanks!
prior military guy with a type A personality, from new york
yeah, not sure if it's been having my god kids in my life the last decade and a half or so, or - simply a matter of decreasing hormonal levels that go along with aging - but, somewhere, somehow i've learned to stop screaming at the television and smashing my controllers along the way...
man, i went through a lot of controllers in my 20's, 30's, and even a bit in to my 40's...
eso can be a humbling game at times - particularly if you enjoy end game pve content or pvp...
the fact that you care enough to post this thread means you'll most likely figure out what it takes to build your character to be successful in whatever content you enjoy...
it's tough, but, try to take joy in the challenge, even if it seems asinine at times - like my advice
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supaskrub✭✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »i run my sorc at 16k health and have no issues with shields fed by 43k magicka,. You have options, is your undaunted skill line fully levelled?.. is it so important to wear seven divines pieces?... why not five divines and two infused (chest and legs) with tri-glyphs.. if you are squishy and struggling then the small loss of magicka from a large magicka pool for a pretty big gain in health and stamina is worth it, you wont barely notice a change in your dps but your survivability will rocket. Are you running witchmother? that carries way less health than a blue food, do you shield up and ensure surge is on a 100% uptime.. Think survivabilty not pretty stats... the stats will start to come when you go over 300cp
No, my undaunted passives aren't available yet. As for the armor, I am just going by what I have been told and what I have read. It seems that everybody has differing opinions on these sorc builds. Plus, I don't have enough gold to keep rearranging my champion points, let alone make armor and staffs. Plus, I don't have the skills to make my own crap.
As for food, I have at my disposal the following:
1.) Blue Orzora's Red Frothgar (for Health and Magicka recovery.)
2.) Blue Solitude Salmon-Millet Soup (For Health and Magicka)
As for power surge, I have no idea how to keep it up all the time--unless I am just supposed to keep spamming it. Besides, I have had my shield up and have still gotten one-shotted.
"Well, you probably put it up too early? You got to watch what the boss is doing while dancing around what they are throwing at you and the red, green, yellow, or blue aoes. Meanwhile, you have to also keep an eye on the ads too."
use the solitude salmon until you have undaunted levelled up, then you can move onto witchmothers potent brew, power surge lasts for around 30 seconds, just refresh it when you need to do so, no need to spam it, keep your hardened ward up though as much as possible and you're good to go, it soon gets 2nd nature keeping your ward up...,0 -
Jigger_allard✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »***_allard wrote: »Yea, I find it all extremely confusing. But, I am here to have fun and to socialize. And, while I want to learn the mechanics of the game, I am not in competition with none one here. (Besides, I hate PvP.) I don't have to be the best of the best nor is that my goal. I just want the ability to deal damage, stay alive and be a team player.
story of my life right there - and, eso in particular
i'm scared to really even consider the amount of thought and effort i've put in to my different characters...wish i was a little more enthused about real life stuff...
you'll get there @***_allard ...it's tough, but, try to stay patient...
Patience is not one of my virtues. But thanks!
prior military guy with a type A personality, from new york
yeah, not sure if it's been having my god kids in my life the last decade and a half or so, or - simply a matter of decreasing hormonal levels that go along with aging - but, somewhere, somehow i've learned to stop screaming at the television and smashing my controllers along the way...
man, i went through a lot of controllers in my 20's, 30's, and even a bit in to my 40's...
eso can be a humbling game at times - particularly if you enjoy end game pve content or pvp...
the fact that you care enough to post this thread means you'll most likely figure out what it takes to build your character to be successful in whatever content you enjoy...
it's tough, but, try to take joy in the challenge, even if it seems asinine at times - like my advice
To be honest, what keeps me here is the relationships that I have developed here. And, just so you know, I hate PvP. I don't have to prove my grit to anyone. All I want is to support my team and not be a burden doing randoms and pledges. My support group says that I am getting better. I just need to find the right monster set and stay alive in the fight: dealing out satisfactory DPS and staying alive in the process. I don't think that is asking too much?Edited by Jigger_allard on October 30, 2017 11:53PM1 -
Jigger_allard✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »It is totally unfair how you....ZOS....continue to morph the SORCs, because of a few crybabies who cannot compete with them in PvP: Because they don't want to put the time and effort into building their Toon in order to compete like the SORCs have.
I wasn't satisfied with my Breton Magicka SORC despite the fact that she was at CP260 and dressed in 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder. I wasn't satisfied because she was still too damn squishy and her health and DPS was terrible.
As a result, I created another Toon, a High Elf Magicka SORC this time. Low and behold she had better health, stamina, and DPS. So, while I brought her up through the low levels her health after consuming food was up around 18,000 t0 20,000. And now, having reached CP260 my High Elf Magicka SORC's health has fallen to 17,000 even after coming food. What is the heck up with that ZOS? (I also replaced her crappy armor and staffs with those from my Breton--- the 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder.)
"Oh, that's right! It's the player's fault. I keep forgetting. Sorry!?!"
Okay, so now let's hear it? Thank you.
Why you got 5 / 5 / 2 on a Mag SORC? That's your first problem. Ok, maybe Dual wield is possible with another build but with Necropotence and Julianos? Unless you are an advanced player you need a staff to weave attacks and regain Magica with heavy attacks.
Second Problem - Health on a Mag sorc is pretty low in importance. Max magica is more important. If you have all your points in Magica just use Hardened Ward every six seconds or more frequently if you get hit really hard. In PvE you should never die with Hardened Ward and some kind of heal over time ability. If you are still too squishy use a second magica shield, lol.
Why do I have the 5/5/2, because it was suggested to me and they made it for me? The biggest issue I see is that everyone has differing opinions on the appropriate armor for my Magicka sorc. I am never, ever going to play PvP, so all I need is a very good PvE armor set. I just want to be able to survive the battle with the Lava Queen, for example, and deal some good DPS. Is that really asking for too much? What I also need is for someone to walk me through redistributing my Champion points properly without it costing me a million in gold. That's all I am asking.0 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »All I want is to support my team and not be a burden doing randoms and pledges.
that's way cool!!!
for a short period of time i was in this small "elite" pvp guild (they kicked me for cross factioning, plus - i play solo...just wasn't meant to be)...however, after playing with them a bit - i really started to improve on building characters - primarily because - i didn't want to let them down...
as long as i played with them i was always going to be the weakest member of the group - however, i wanted to be competent...same thing with pledges and learning how to tank or heal (still haven't tried the dps role)...
fear of failure can be a very motivating
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Jigger_allard✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »All I want is to support my team and not be a burden doing randoms and pledges.
that's way cool!!!
for a short period of time i was in this small "elite" pvp guild (they kicked me for cross factioning, plus - i play solo...just wasn't meant to be)...however, after playing with them a bit - i really started to improve on building characters - primarily because - i didn't want to let them down...
as long as i played with them i was always going to be the weakest member of the group - however, i wanted to be competent...same thing with pledges and learning how to tank or heal (still haven't tried the dps role)...
fear of failure can be a very motivating
That guild sounds like living in a condo with all their rules and regulations. "Not allowed to crap purple only golden brown. Walls must be painted beige, so as to match the golden brown.......yadda.......yadda.......yadda!"
I have no fear of failure. But, neither do I want to be the cause of my teammates dying because of me. Perhaps I am better off playing single player games like I have been. I do miss playing Fallout 4, DAI and Mass Effect and Skyrim. And, i don't have to pay a monthly subscription fee.1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'll be honest, my mag sorc is my least favorite character to play. Why? Because she's squishy and hard to manage in PVE content. I don't animation cancel or practice the rotation very much, so I don't do great DPS - only around 8-13k DPS - with her. I remember that leveling her was a royal pain and she languished unplayed for a long time until I brought her back out recently.
Here's a tactic that made a substantial difference for me and let me solo easier group dungeons.
For greater survivability, use the damage shield from Ward in conjunction with the heals from Twilight Matriarch. Seriously, I spam those shields when I'm soloing dungeon bosses. Power Surge helps a little with healing, but I find it more effective to use the Twilight Matriarch when I need healing. Shield, then heal, is a good way to stop the incoming damage and then heal. You'll probably still feel squishy, because even 17-18kish health isn't much to work with, but your shields will keep you alive long enough to heal back up when you need it.
This tactic is what keeps me alive while soloing group dungeons. I don't have great DPS on my Altmer magsorc, so those boss fights take me a long time, with tons of stuns, CCs, and fears. Ward + Twilight Matriarch keeps me going. She's still not the easiest character for me to play, but she worked better than she did before I started using Ward+Twilight Matriarch.
Changing CP placement is a flat fee that you accept when you change CP in the menu.
As for CP, I'm not going to be able to give you specific numbers as much as a general idea of what's going to be best to focus on. CP benefits are weighted towards the early points with diminishing returns as you continue to stack points into a single passive. These are the general ideas I follow for my magicka builds, since I rarely follow a specific build.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Champion
The Lord - Quick Recovery, Bastion
The Lady - Elemental Defender, Light Armor Focus, Hardy, Thick-skinned
The Steed - Spell Shield, Ironclad
I'd focus first on the Lady, since Light Armor passives will give you a fair bit of spell resistance anyway. I spread these points around pretty evenly through the different forms of damage resistance.
Ritual - Thaumaturge
Apprentice - Elemental Expert, Elfborn, Spell Erosion
Atronach - Staff Expert, Master at Arms
I'd focus first on the Apprentice, though its worth putting a few points into the other two for the benefit of putting a few CP points in.
The Tower - not really necessary, except that crafters will want the perk for Inspiration Boost (unlocks at 30)
The Lover - Arcanist, Tenacity (I put some points in Healthy and Mooncalf out of personal preference)
The Shadow - only put points in these if you want the treasure hunter passive unlocked at 75 points
I'd focus first on the Lover for the strongest benefits in magicka regen and Tenacity helps a ton with sustain if you regularly heavy attack. The Lover also has the best passives for farming - Plentiful Harvest (10) and Master Gatherer (75). I tend to put most of my points in the Lover tree, unless I want treasure hunter.0 -
Jigger_allard✭✭✭That Ritual - Thaumaturge will only allow me to put one single point there. It never ever opens up to place more.
As for the rest, I have points in pretty much everything that you have.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Is not letting you put any more because you have placed all your points available for the blue constellations?0 -
CadaCosa✭✭It is interesting, I had a non-vet level 10 DK with maxed out gear, just for fun. I've never felt more powerful in ESO. Trouble is you level out of the gear so fast only fun for a bit. Scaling OP.0 -
Jigger_allard✭✭✭That Ritual - Thaumaturge will only allow me to put one single point there. It never ever opens up to place more.
As for the rest, I have points in pretty much everything that you have. I looked at the website at the list of all of the disguises and it is not among them that are listed.VaranisArano wrote: »Is not letting you put any more because you have placed all your points available for the blue constellations?VaranisArano wrote: »Is not letting you put any more because you have placed all your points available for the blue constellations?
That's wonderful.
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Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭lol. The only thing you should be mentioning for PvP is the frags nerf and you didn't even bring it up. That is the bread and butter of the "sorc is dead" argument. They're way worse now !
Much else of your post seems to.... not make sense.1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »That's wonderful.
Was that what the problem was? Or do you still have points left for the blue constellations that its not letting you place?
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Jigger_allard✭✭✭lol. The only thing you should be mentioning for PvP is the frags nerf and you didn't even bring it up. That is the bread and butter of the "sorc is dead" argument. They're way worse now !
Much else of your post seems to.... not make sense.VaranisArano wrote: »***_allard wrote: »That's wonderful.
I know that they are dead. Some of my guildmates who have lost a lot of DPS because of the recent changes are thinking of leaving ESO. And, some of these people have been here since day one. Others perhaps a year or two. I personally have only been here since September of 2017: And, I was a beta tester back in 2013.
Was that what the problem was? Or do you still have points left for the blue constellations that its not letting you place?
All of my points are used up. It is whenever I get a point to use it is always greyed out. I don't know what Thaumaturge means to start with. I understand that it took the place of Magician, however. It is all too damn confusing to me.
It is like everything else here. Everyone has a different opinion on what is considered the best Monster Armor for a Sorc. Currently, all of my monster set is Divines and enchanted with Max Magicka---save for the jewelry which is enchanted with Magicka Recovery. My staffs of Julianos are infused with weapon damage.
One of my friends says, that it is whatever works for you. I guess it all boils down to if and when I can make my own armor and staffs, I will create them to my fighting style.......whatever the heck that is? All I know is that I am not a grasshopper on steroids.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Since all your points are currently used up, those will ungrey after you get your next champion point to put in the Mage blue constellations.
Thaumaturge will give extra damage to your "Damage Over Time" abilities (DOTs), which are the skills that do x amount of damage over x seconds. Commonly used mag sorc DOTs are liquid lightning and the destro staff wall of elements.0 -
Most of the hardcore PVE player guides seem to recommend around 18k health for DPS with food. Personally I find I am too squishy at 18k and try to aim for 22k which seems to be the sweet spot for my play style and skill level. This may mean my DPS is a bit lower than it could be but if I'm dead then I can't do any DPS and neither can the player trying to rez me.
Here are some of the ways I get to 22k health on my DPS builds. I don't use all of them, just what ever gets me there.
- health enchant on chest and legs, even stronger if they have infused trait
- wear 2 pieces heavy for heavy armor passives, 1 should be be chest
- wear a monster piece that has health
- 10 points in health (I guess any number here but 10 looks nice)
- use blue food (health + mag or health + stam)
Once I get better at rotations and keeping buffs and shields up maybe I won't need 22k health. Also I probably need to redo my CP allocation as it's probably not optimal.
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KRBMMO✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »***_allard wrote: »It is totally unfair how you....ZOS....continue to morph the SORCs, because of a few crybabies who cannot compete with them in PvP: Because they don't want to put the time and effort into building their Toon in order to compete like the SORCs have.
I wasn't satisfied with my Breton Magicka SORC despite the fact that she was at CP260 and dressed in 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder. I wasn't satisfied because she was still too damn squishy and her health and DPS was terrible.
As a result, I created another Toon, a High Elf Magicka SORC this time. Low and behold she had better health, stamina, and DPS. So, while I brought her up through the low levels her health after consuming food was up around 18,000 t0 20,000. And now, having reached CP260 my High Elf Magicka SORC's health has fallen to 17,000 even after coming food. What is the heck up with that ZOS? (I also replaced her crappy armor and staffs with those from my Breton--- the 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder.)
"Oh, that's right! It's the player's fault. I keep forgetting. Sorry!?!"
Okay, so now let's hear it? Thank you.
Why you got 5 / 5 / 2 on a Mag SORC? That's your first problem. Ok, maybe Dual wield is possible with another build but with Necropotence and Julianos? Unless you are an advanced player you need a staff to weave attacks and regain Magica with heavy attacks.
Second Problem - Health on a Mag sorc is pretty low in importance. Max magica is more important. If you have all your points in Magica just use Hardened Ward every six seconds or more frequently if you get hit really hard. In PvE you should never die with Hardened Ward and some kind of heal over time ability. If you are still too squishy use a second magica shield, lol.
Why do I have the 5/5/2, because it was suggested to me and they made it for me? The biggest issue I see is that everyone has differing opinions on the appropriate armor for my Magicka sorc. I am never, ever going to play PvP, so all I need is a very good PvE armor set. I just want to be able to survive the battle with the Lava Queen, for example, and deal some good DPS. Is that really asking for too much? What I also need is for someone to walk me through redistributing my Champion points properly without it costing me a million in gold. That's all I am asking.
Yes, everyone has a different opinion, lol. One difficulty is a lot of advice is for really advanced players.
I guess I should explain what I meant:
Sometimes on one bar people have 5/5/2. You get increased damage from several things with that. The disadvantage though is that if your magica runs low you have to swap bars and use heavy attacks to restore your magica. If you never run out of Magica then it's not an issue but especially with solo boss fights and lower CP you can use up your magica pool.
Since you already invested in those sets keep them - they are good and the basis for good builds - but you will probably have to do weapon swaps if your magica runs low and on your staff bar you'll miss out on the Julianos increased spell damage.
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KRBMMO✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »i run my sorc at 16k health and have no issues with shields fed by 43k magicka,. You have options, is your undaunted skill line fully levelled?.. is it so important to wear seven divines pieces?... why not five divines and two infused (chest and legs) with tri-glyphs.. if you are squishy and struggling then the small loss of magicka from a large magicka pool for a pretty big gain in health and stamina is worth it, you wont barely notice a change in your dps but your survivability will rocket. Are you running witchmother? that carries way less health than a blue food, do you shield up and ensure surge is on a 100% uptime.. Think survivabilty not pretty stats... the stats will start to come when you go over 300cp
No, my undaunted passives aren't available yet. As for the armor, I am just going by what I have been told and what I have read. It seems that everybody has differing opinions on these sorc builds. Plus, I don't have enough gold to keep rearranging my champion points, let alone make armor and staffs. Plus, I don't have the skills to make my own crap.
As for food, I have at my disposal the following:
1.) Blue Orzora's Red Frothgar (for Health and Magicka recovery.)
2.) Blue Solitude Salmon-Millet Soup (For Health and Magicka)
As for power surge, I have no idea how to keep it up all the time--unless I am just supposed to keep spamming it. Besides, I have had my shield up and have still gotten one-shotted.
"Well, you probably put it up too early? You got to watch what the boss is doing while dancing around what they are throwing at you and the red, green, yellow, or blue aoes. Meanwhile, you have to also keep an eye on the ads too."
Surge is VERY important. You definitely want to keep it up 100%. It lasts 33 seconds so you don't have to "spam" it - just reapply it. It's probably the longest lasting skill in the game.
Whether you use the heal morph or the damage morph is up to debate, but every sorc will probably agree that you need to keep surge up. In addition to either healing you or increasing your damage, it also shocks anything nearby - and remember if they are under 15% health there is a 6% chance it can instantly vaporize them with the disintigrate passive.
What a lot of people do is start on their back bar - click power surge and any other buffs, then swap bars and attack. then they count in their heads how many seconds the surge lasts, swap to back bar, buff up, then swap back to attack bar.
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✭✭✭✭***_allard wrote: »***_allard wrote: »It is totally unfair how you....ZOS....continue to morph the SORCs, because of a few crybabies who cannot compete with them in PvP: Because they don't want to put the time and effort into building their Toon in order to compete like the SORCs have.
I wasn't satisfied with my Breton Magicka SORC despite the fact that she was at CP260 and dressed in 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder. I wasn't satisfied because she was still too damn squishy and her health and DPS was terrible.
As a result, I created another Toon, a High Elf Magicka SORC this time. Low and behold she had better health, stamina, and DPS. So, while I brought her up through the low levels her health after consuming food was up around 18,000 t0 20,000. And now, having reached CP260 my High Elf Magicka SORC's health has fallen to 17,000 even after coming food. What is the heck up with that ZOS? (I also replaced her crappy armor and staffs with those from my Breton--- the 5 pieces of Julianos; 5 pieces of Necropotence and the SlimeClaw Monster Helm/ Shoulder.)
"Oh, that's right! It's the player's fault. I keep forgetting. Sorry!?!"
Okay, so now let's hear it? Thank you.
Why you got 5 / 5 / 2 on a Mag SORC? That's your first problem. Ok, maybe Dual wield is possible with another build but with Necropotence and Julianos? Unless you are an advanced player you need a staff to weave attacks and regain Magica with heavy attacks.
Second Problem - Health on a Mag sorc is pretty low in importance. Max magica is more important. If you have all your points in Magica just use Hardened Ward every six seconds or more frequently if you get hit really hard. In PvE you should never die with Hardened Ward and some kind of heal over time ability. If you are still too squishy use a second magica shield, lol.
Why do I have the 5/5/2, because it was suggested to me and they made it for me? The biggest issue I see is that everyone has differing opinions on the appropriate armor for my Magicka sorc. I am never, ever going to play PvP, so all I need is a very good PvE armor set. I just want to be able to survive the battle with the Lava Queen, for example, and deal some good DPS. Is that really asking for too much? What I also need is for someone to walk me through redistributing my Champion points properly without it costing me a million in gold. That's all I am asking.
Yes, everyone has a different opinion, lol. One difficulty is a lot of advice is for really advanced players.
I guess I should explain what I meant:
Sometimes on one bar people have 5/5/2. You get increased damage from several things with that. The disadvantage though is that if your magica runs low you have to swap bars and use heavy attacks to restore your magica. If you never run out of Magica then it's not an issue but especially with solo boss fights and lower CP you can use up your magica pool.
Since you already invested in those sets keep them - they are good and the basis for good builds - but you will probably have to do weapon swaps if your magica runs low and on your staff bar you'll miss out on the Julianos increased spell damage.
@KRBMMO I don't know if you saw my post on the first page but when I made his armor, it was 5/5/1. He has staves on both bars. When he added the second piece of Slimecraw, I don't know which set bonus he screwed up because he never answered me. He is not a dual-wielding magsorc. Just wanted to clear that up.PC/NA/EP ✌️1 -
NotNormanBates✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »***_allard wrote: »It is totally unfair how you....ZOS....continue to morph the SORCs, because of a few crybabies
its not a "few crybabies" it is now and has been since launch alot of people on many platforms and constant threads admitting the truth that sorcer class is overpowered both in shields and damage output.
Umm im going to clarify your post a little bit. At launch magsorcs were among the worst specs. For about a year there have been complaints of magsorc's being OP. After major buffs to stamina in general and nerfs to things that affected sorcs a great deal, they are no longer OP. Are they very convenient? Yes. It is an easy class to play, and provides the best damage to ease of use. Are they the best? No. Are the they the best magicka spec? Among the top 2. Are they OP? Absolutely not.Edited by NotNormanBates on October 31, 2017 4:13AM1 -
NotNormanBates✭✭✭My stamblade sits around 18-22k health. That's standard for DPS. If you have issues with survivability, maybe you need to look at your skills. Right now, sorcs are probably the most OP class right now, so it's about time they get to feel the "nerf bat". Welcome to what the rest of us have been experiencing over the last 2 years. ZOS makes changes, you either adapt or quit. It's that simple.
Stamblade are doing 45k-50k dps solo.... Magsorcs struggle to get 40. With group buffs the disparity is even more....0 -
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