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[Request] Would You Like to see a change in the pricing of the Vampire/Werewolf from the Crown Store

Tornaad
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I got to thinking about the pricing structure of the Vampire/Werewolf from the crown store compared to things like the newest DCL Clockwork City. For 2,000 crown I can get several hours of game play, new weapons and armor and many more hours if I start to try to farm for those weapons and armor, and that is available for any character I want.
But if I want to try to purchase the Werewolf or Vampire option from the crown store then I have to pay 1,500 crown to get it usable for only one character.
My thoughts are that if they simply switched it so that if I purchase the option from the crown store then I could make any character I wanted a werewolf or vampire respectively.
What are your thoughts on the pricing for the Vampire/Werewolf pricing?
Edited by Tornaad on October 28, 2017 11:42PM

[Request] Would You Like to see a change in the pricing of the Vampire/Werewolf from the Crown Store 70 votes

Keep it as it is.
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tspecherb14_ESOxaraanedopeyAzraelKriegLylithToRelaxPeleHvzedamenedhynTasearWhite wabbitsevomd69ArkangeloskiIrfindStackonClownsupaskrubAragorn79Koteikins 18 votes
Revamp the Vampire/Werewolf instead (please share your thoughts on how).
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MadyErtthewolf 2 votes
Just lower the price and keep it usable for one character.
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Morgul667TelvanniWizard 2 votes
Adjust the crown store purchased werewolf/vampire to be usable for any character you want after purchase.
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mirta000b16_ESOmakerofthingsHerelacfreahelmFischblutgepe87Apache_KidFurcula 7 votes
Just take it out of the crown store and make it easier to get infected in game.
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AzuryaAlienSlofUlfgardeIts_AlexisOmniDoElsonsoJusey1SaturnanaAliteAlienatedGoatMinyassaKurkikohtausThePrinceOfBargainsiiYuki 14 votes
Create a Vampire/werewolf themed DLC to give the option to get them for any character any time you want.
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VriendaBam_BamSugaComaLucasalex92Larry78RunscheiSilverIce58Cyron746lackzeu5Dracofyreenergyy151swippy 12 votes
Another option or combination of several options. (Please share your thoughts in the comments)
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BelegnoleDanikatStreegaredspecter23Katahdinaltemrieltheher0notkyle.wilsonRaddlemanNumber7Marabornwingrioncoop500EnemorianaQanubisWrathOfInnosTheUndeadAmulet 15 votes
  • Arkangeloski
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    Keep it as it is.
    You can get free vamp and ww bites, also there is certain questlines depending on your alliance that can also provide the infection. Thats two free of charge ways! B) if ppl want to go the lazy way they got to pay ;)
  • kyle.wilson
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    Another option or combination of several options. (Please share your thoughts in the comments)
    Most players will give away bites for free if you ask in zone chat.
    It's way for people with more money than brains to get the bit.
  • Ertthewolf
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    Revamp the Vampire/Werewolf instead (please share your thoughts on how).
    Both could use some tweaking instead. Especially werewolf.

    I'd like to see the werewolf skills and morphs overall cost reduced at least. A heal that costs 4590 magicka is too expensive. Especially in PvP.

    The nerf to sustain pre Morrowind made it require a bit to much heavy attack spamming just to maintain enough stam to roll dodge and breakout in PvP. You can usually only win with a well timed burst.....Hard to use in a long fight.

    I'm sure more could be done.
  • Minyassa
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    Just take it out of the crown store and make it easier to get infected in game.
    I bought Vampire from the crown store very shortly after I started playing the game, because I was erroneously told that people still paid for bites so it would really kind of pay for itself by being a source for in-game cash as well as a fun thing to play. The gold thing was laughably off-base. I have seen nothing but people scolding and carrying on if someone offered bites for gold from either WW or Vampire, and I have even seen people jump on people who offered to pay and browbeat them about how all bites should always be free and not to encourage people by paying them. Kind of a rude attitude considering that either we pay real money OR, as some friends of mine did, do a couple of weeks of work stalking the wild progenitors and getting infected the hard way. But it is how things are, and it makes me very sorry that I didn't just mooch a free bite off some bloodsucker in the game since that's expected to be a free lunch now.
    Edited by Minyassa on October 29, 2017 12:08AM
  • Tasear
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    Keep it as it is.
    It's balanced already no need for change.
  • coop500
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    You can get bit in-game super easy, just ask other players.

    However I think it should be removed from the crown store, it's clearly meant to trick the new folks into paying for things you don't need to pay for.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • iiYuki
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    Just take it out of the crown store and make it easier to get infected in game.
    paying is a scam. there are hundreds of people who offer a bite for FREE or very cheap even going as far as some making guilds for "blood family". You can also camp the spawn of the vamlires and werewolves unless ita changed from when i last checked. Plus with the store bought there is no quest only an instant 100% complete infection.
    "Play how you want... unless its not how we intended you to play in which case we'll nerf it".
    - ZO$

    - The ZO$ Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmUJWP_ebsQ
  • kyle.wilson
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    Another option or combination of several options. (Please share your thoughts in the comments)
    A lot of the guides for ESO online stopped being updated about the time gold sellers realized that it wasn't going to work.
    I.E. 3 months after PC launch.

    This is probably the most updated ESO based website.
    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Elder+Scrolls+Online+Wiki

    and for new players. @Alcast's site is helpful
    https://alcasthq.com/
  • Danikat
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    I'm not sure what I think of it really. I do think the store option is massively over-priced for what you get, but since you can get a bite in-game for free fairly easily by asking your guild/s or going to the shrine and asking people there (or even just hanging around the shrine - some people will bite anyone they see standing there) I don't see it as much of a problem.

    Except of course when people are mislead into believing they need to buy it, as happened to one person above.

    Obviously reducing the price is the simple solution to that, but then what's a fair price? What's right for one person will still be too expensive for someone else.

    Making it account-bound - something you can choose to apply to every character as and when you want would be a great fix and make it somewhat distinct from the in-game system, but then it might actually be too cheap.
    PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"
  • Vrienda
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    Create a Vampire/werewolf themed DLC to give the option to get them for any character any time you want.
    I’d love to see a Vampire/Werewolf themed DLC. Akin to Dawnguard in Skyrim.
    Desperate for Roleplaying servers to bring open world non-organised RP to Elder Scrolls Online. Please ZOS.
  • altemriel
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    you do not need to buy that in crown store for real money.


    just ask in the in-game chat chat, or check out here in the forums
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/204680/pc-mac-na-eu-seeking-offering-vampire-or-werewolf-bite/p1
    to get your bite(s), many times for free ;)



  • KingMagaw
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    Ye these items out of CS only target new players.

    Get a bite in game for free or get the cure for it in game for little hassle.
  • redspecter23
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    Raise it to $100 each. If people are silly enough to go to the crown store for something that you can buy in zone for 5000g or less (which is equivalent to about $0 to $0.25 max) then they have no concept of exchange rates and would likely buy it for any price.

    Really, if you want vamp/ww just go to zone 5 and offer to pay for it. I've never waited longer than 5 minutes using this method.
  • TheUndeadAmulet
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    How to get Werewolf or Vamp easy without having to pay 1500 crowns:

    Step 1. Go to Either Deshaan, Grahtwood, Stormhaven, Reapers March or any other popular zone for lots people to congregate.

    Step 2. Type in Zone chat: "Paying 5k gold for (ww or vamp bite)"

    Step 3. If you get no offers repeat in other zones

    Step 4. Success

    Quite simple really. You can usually get it free from guildmates and people who are nice if you want, but it'll take a bit longer to get. This is GUARANTEED to get it. (Don't quote me on that)
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    nerf ping please
  • Jusey1
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    Just take it out of the crown store and make it easier to get infected in game.
    How to get Werewolf or Vamp easy without having to pay 1500 crowns:

    Step 1. Go to Either Deshaan, Grahtwood, Stormhaven, Reapers March or any other popular zone for lots people to congregate.

    Step 2. Type in Zone chat: "Paying 5k gold for (ww or vamp bite)"

    Step 3. If you get no offers repeat in other zones

    Step 4. Success

    Quite simple really. You can usually get it free from guildmates and people who are nice if you want, but it'll take a bit longer to get. This is GUARANTEED to get it. (Don't quote me on that)

    or just ask for a bite... I give mine freely to everyone and everybody I know give bites freely. The only time I get money from bites if they willingly gave me the money as a tip, and I only accept because they wouldn't stop sending me a trade offer.
  • Belegnole
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    I give away free bites on a regular basis. When I need one it never takes too long to get one either. No need to buy anything....
  • zaria
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    coop500 wrote: »
    You can get bit in-game super easy, just ask other players.

    However I think it should be removed from the crown store, it's clearly meant to trick the new folks into paying for things you don't need to pay for.
    This and its an bad business practice, do not ask money for something players can get for free in any reasonable guild or buy in zone chat for loot and rewards from the starting island.
    People feel scammed and is less likely to buy the pink unicorn mount for 10K half an year later.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Balamoor
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    I have always thought being either should have more of a downside (Like flagged for PVP if discovered by PC's or NPC's inability to visit certain towns without more precautions etc) it certainly should cost much more than it does on the crown store.
  • xaraan
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    Keep it as it is.
    No, you can get it in game. Stuff like that should be expensive to just be lazy and buy it instead of getting it in game.
    -- @xaraan --
    nightblade: Xaraan templar: Xaraan-dar dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus necromancer: Xaraan-qa warden: Xaraanodon sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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  • Dracofyre
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    Create a Vampire/werewolf themed DLC to give the option to get them for any character any time you want.
    it would be great if they use similar "Dawnguard" concept, for both vamps and weres.

    otherwise these are too expensive, doesnt seem worth more than 500 crowns each. for 1.5k each? forget it!
  • ConeOfSilence
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    Easy enough to get vamp and WW without paying RL money. All my vamp toons I got a scratch from blood fiends on a new moon. I give away vamp bites and WW scratches for free.
  • Ackwalan
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    It cost ZOS nothing to leave it as it is. It 100% profit for them. Don't expect a change.
  • Diffused
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    Why is it even on the store? Get rid of it.
  • WrathOfInnos
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    It's so easy to get a bite, usually for free, just by asking in the correct zones. I don't see why anyone would ever pay crowns for a bite.

    That being said, a few years ago when being vampire was somewhat rare, it was often expensive to find a bite (since its only available once per week), and those that had them tried to keep it exclusive. I doubt this will happen again, with the larger population and the number of vampires and werewolves in game, but the ability to get it in the crown store is a way to prevent this. I'm glad it's an option, but the price is irrelevant because it currently wouldn't make sense for anyone to buy it.
  • TelvanniWizard
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    Just lower the price and keep it usable for one character.
    The cheaper the better.
  • Runschei
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    Create a Vampire/werewolf themed DLC to give the option to get them for any character any time you want.
    Remove it from crown store but add a DLC with some spooky content
  • Enemoriana
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    It's easy to get it in game, so does it really matter how much it cost?

    As for me - got first ww bite from npc, second from somebody in WW guild, vampire bite from friend. Now give free bites (via guild chat or Riften zone) each time when limit expire and I notice it.

    But I'd like to have some DLC where my lycantropy will really be noticed by npc. How much dialogs have this? I remember one quest in Bangkorai - thanks that at least Hircine knows! - and one dialog in DB (not finished Dominion, however). Glenumbra, where are problems with werewolves? Oh, nobody cares!
    PC EU, @Enemoriana. Ru.
    Houses: Erstwhile Sanctuary as actual Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary, Hunter's Glade as werewolf tavern (downstairs), Strident Springs Demesne as adventurer's house.
    Wishlist: character slots, attunable stations (have 36/80 sets collected), molten war torte and white gold war torte recipes, Willowpond Haven, Kor and Hildegard houseguests, crown crates.
  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    Just take it out of the crown store and make it easier to get infected in game.
    Take it out the CS because it’s a scam, though it doesn’t need to be easier to get. The CS version is a scam because of how easy it is. Once upon a time, vampires and werewolves were more scarce, the bite was coveted, and people would try to extort you for it. That was years ago. Now, Vampires run ESO. Everyone has at least one vampire. Multiple probably because of that supernatural recovery. Werewolves aren’t much more difficult. If someone actually pays for that, they’re either new and just got scammed or they’re being ridiculously stupid. Zone chat and wait. That’s all it takes. I don’t understand why some people still think they’ll have trouble with this. I had someone tell me they went weeks without finding anyone, which is just BS. If you’re that shy and afraid of talking to people, camp out by one of the spawn locations for bloodfiends and werewolves.
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    Increase the crown store price.

    Give the idle rich an opportunity to contribute more cash to the game.

    More cash income = better game.
    PC EU
  • JKorr
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    Minyassa wrote: »
    I bought Vampire from the crown store very shortly after I started playing the game, because I was erroneously told that people still paid for bites so it would really kind of pay for itself by being a source for in-game cash as well as a fun thing to play. The gold thing was laughably off-base. I have seen nothing but people scolding and carrying on if someone offered bites for gold from either WW or Vampire, and I have even seen people jump on people who offered to pay and browbeat them about how all bites should always be free and not to encourage people by paying them. Kind of a rude attitude considering that either we pay real money OR, as some friends of mine did, do a couple of weeks of work stalking the wild progenitors and getting infected the hard way. But it is how things are, and it makes me very sorry that I didn't just mooch a free bite off some bloodsucker in the game since that's expected to be a free lunch now.

    When people found out you could be a vampire or ww in the game, some really, really special snowflakes decided this would be a great source of income. So these special snowflakes and their buddies ran circuits and killed all the spawns so no one would be able to get a bite in the "wild". People would *have to pay* the special snowflakes for a bite, and even then some snowflakes scammed them out of the gold/didn't give them the bite. It would cost 50k or more; and when the game was early release/just released and everyone was just starting out, that was a LOT of gold.

    So, how could ZOS handle the issue? Because there were many complaints about it. Reverting every ww or vamp in the game wouldn't be fair to the ones who had gotten bit in the wild despite the snowflakes or that paid the snowflakes. Taking vamp and ww out of the game wouldn't work either. Spawning multiple hundreds of vampire/ww spawns so not all of them could be killed by the snowflakes wouldn't work. So the bites came to the crown store as a last resort for players who might not have in-game alternatives.

    Players who dealt with that mess [and I'm one of them, out of 14 characters on my one account 12 are currently ww, and the other two will be shortly] give bites out for free because being able to get bitten was supposed to be freely accessed content in the game. If I see a response to "selling ww bite" in zone I offer to give one for free. The only thing I ask is that the person who gets it will also pass it on free of charge.
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