I had someone get really pushy about me not giving them the item they wanted. They refused to accept that I couldn't give them something I didn't have - their interface said I had it, ergo I was lying when I said I didn't have it.

The only thing I ask of those that use this addon is that they respect a simple no for an answer or better, don't start linking what I got and asking for it when I didn't link the item myself in chat. If I don't need the item I will simply link it myself.

I find a mention at the beginning of the dungeon is enough, then reminder at the end. People are usually happy to give stuff they don't need. But yeah flat out hassling makes people wanna do the opposite!

I bid good stuff in group chat if many ppl are whispering. with stargers only tho, always give stuff to friends and guildies for frer

I don't use these kind of addons as I see them invasive. I'm one of the guys that announces in group chat what he is looking for (not with simple LF drop, I'm trying to be more friendly about it to not make people think I demand something, so it's usually something like "if anyone gets X and Y they feel like parting with, I'll humbly accept" ). This doesn't mean I do not share. If people are civil about it, I'll share 95% of time (with 5% being I do actually need the drop). If people demand, accuse or show any signs of entitlement, I'm more likely to decon it than give it to them).

When you get to a point you want privacy in a video game, that's when i think you'Ve reached the absurd line to be honest, no offence. You know, if you want privacy it's called, play alone. As for those who says « well i'll link what i don't need, if i don't link it's because i don't need » i answer « well lots of people are like me, don'T waste 5 minutes in dungeons to link all i got, so if every one would see each others loot, they'll simply have to look for themselves and i won'T have to go through my 160+ items inventory backs to see what i got from this dungeon or from the otehr i ran before. It a video game, stop with the privacy crap, it's not like being at a public urinary station and people are all around looking while you're having a pee and telling you « oh man, that is such a fat loot you have there ». If you find that people whispering you iof you need this or that, you can simply not reply to them, how complicated this is? Or simple ansswer you need it? « I need it sry » takes ot even 2 seconds to type. tons faster than going through the invtentory, looking at trait and listing them in chat. Then asking, ok who needed what?

Anyone that actually harrasses should just be put in /ignore. But it’s a bit silly how often you’ll get this exchange:

“Hey man, you need that?”
“UMMMMMMM EXCUSE ME STOP SNOOPING YOU ENTITLED *** REEEEEEEE”

Simple etiquette - Ask first, offer purchase/exchange second, let it go after that. On the other end, consider if you need it, consider the offer, ignore after that.

These addons are good.

Group loot is ok to see...this is a MMO ..remember?

I don't use loot addons. I don't want to pry into what others get in dungeon runs. I ask for a specific piece up front needed for a build or an item of a set I'm trying to put together.

Wish there was a way to block prying eyes.

BrightOblivion wrote: »

I've had people take no for an answer, but I've also had at least one person decidedly not. Said one person was a tank who sprinted ahead aggroing multiple groups at a time (and getting us killed), nearly skipped Iceheart (whom I needed for the pledge) until I refused to move from the door, and then proceeded to tell us "You guys need to follow the tank." So of course I get the necklace he wants, and he starts pestering me before I even processed what loot I got. Told him "No, I need it." (I didn't really, but I wasn't about to give it to him after that)

Was this enough for him? Of course not. He continues to message me repeatedly, and finally says "I'll pay you for it." Knowing RNG-based desperation and wanting him to just go away, I agree and offer to part with it for 10k, which is my standard jewelry bounty when I just can't get what I'm looking for to drop, even after 10 runs in a day, and he accepts. And he then proceeded to cuss me out for charging him, and put me on ignore before I could even get a word in edgewise.

As others have said, if I want to part with something, I'll link it. I'd prefer you mention it at the beginning, maybe a reminder at the end or after the boss(es) that drop it, so I know I'm looking for something and need to wait afterward, rather than thanking people for group, ensuring everyone's turned in the quest, and leaving. But if you're pushy and a jerk, I'd rather destroy it on the spot.

I don't like the addon. It feels too much like rifling through someone's luggage or bags at a supermarket, holding up a toothbrush, and going "I need one of these. Can I have it?" If you want to use it and know how close you're coming to what you're after or whether to even mention you're looking for something, that's great. But please be a decent person, both during the dungeon and after when we're looking at loot (we're not just three lootsacks to take whatever you might need from). If not?

What your addon doesn't show is that I accidentally on purpose destroyed that piece of loot you were harrassing me about and demanding I give you. Better luck next time.

You realize that if there were no addon, that dude would repeatedly pester you to link him your loot until you do, which is even more annoying than what he did, right?

Runschei wrote: »

The only thing I ask of those that use this addon is that they respect a simple no for an answer or better, don't start linking what I got and asking for it when I didn't link the item myself in chat. If I don't need the item I will simply link it myself.

Which is rarely the case for most people. It is too time consuming to check what you have and link them all the freaking time, so most people don't even bother seeing what they get let alone linking them. It's much more time efficient when if you need something, you install the addon and see what your teammates get.

I very rarely pug, and some of my guildmates and I have a simple rule: any item you ask me for, without me linking it before = deconstructed item, no matter how much you need it. Other guildmates with the addon instead of whining, they simply learnt to bite their tongues (or fingers) and wait.

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

BrightOblivion wrote: »

I've had people take no for an answer, but I've also had at least one person decidedly not. Said one person was a tank who sprinted ahead aggroing multiple groups at a time (and getting us killed), nearly skipped Iceheart (whom I needed for the pledge) until I refused to move from the door, and then proceeded to tell us "You guys need to follow the tank." So of course I get the necklace he wants, and he starts pestering me before I even processed what loot I got. Told him "No, I need it." (I didn't really, but I wasn't about to give it to him after that)

Was this enough for him? Of course not. He continues to message me repeatedly, and finally says "I'll pay you for it." Knowing RNG-based desperation and wanting him to just go away, I agree and offer to part with it for 10k, which is my standard jewelry bounty when I just can't get what I'm looking for to drop, even after 10 runs in a day, and he accepts. And he then proceeded to cuss me out for charging him, and put me on ignore before I could even get a word in edgewise.

As others have said, if I want to part with something, I'll link it. I'd prefer you mention it at the beginning, maybe a reminder at the end or after the boss(es) that drop it, so I know I'm looking for something and need to wait afterward, rather than thanking people for group, ensuring everyone's turned in the quest, and leaving. But if you're pushy and a jerk, I'd rather destroy it on the spot.

I don't like the addon. It feels too much like rifling through someone's luggage or bags at a supermarket, holding up a toothbrush, and going "I need one of these. Can I have it?" If you want to use it and know how close you're coming to what you're after or whether to even mention you're looking for something, that's great. But please be a decent person, both during the dungeon and after when we're looking at loot (we're not just three lootsacks to take whatever you might need from). If not?

What your addon doesn't show is that I accidentally on purpose destroyed that piece of loot you were harrassing me about and demanding I give you. Better luck next time.

You realize that if there were no addon, that dude would repeatedly pester you to link him your loot until you do, which is even more annoying than what he did, right?

The gist of what I said in the fourth paragraph, if you'd actually read it was "I don't personally like the addon, but if you want to use it, I won't blow up in your face or be irate about it. Just don't be a [snip], and I'll do the same." That applies whether or not you're using the addon.

And no, he wouldn't have. I could just say "No, I didn't get it" and be on my way. That's seriously how it normally is, and how it works with people not using the addon. People are dramatically more insistent if they know for sure you have something they want.

That being said, my loot is just that: my loot. If I want people to see what I have and am willing to part with, I'll freaking link it. Then, if you want it, you can ask, and it's fair game to everyone at the same time. Not just the guy who peeked in my backpack and tried to get it on the down-low without anyone in the group knowing.

And regardless of how much you might mock or belittle it, there is a privacy infringement in it. In no other social setting is it acceptable to rifle through anyone's bags or belongings without permission searching for something you want (unless you're a police officer with a warrant or a worker at a security station). Why in the world should this be any different just because you're separated by a computer screen and an internet connection?

I will say that if ZOS makes this an in-game "feature," they'd better make it an opt-out one. I have zero desire to broadcast what I'm getting for all to see, without having an option to turn it off.

That's all I want in this: a choice whether or not others can see what I'm getting. This addon expressly takes that away from me, without giving me any input, when I'm the one getting the freaking loot it's showing.

And that's not okay.

(And before anyone says "Oh, Bright's just a greedy so-and-so, I'm really not. If I don't need something that I've gotten, particularly if someone mentioned they're looking for it and were a decent human being, I'll absolutely link it, and even give it for free usually. Even if it's a decent TFS weapon in a good trait. But it is, and should be, my choice throughout the process.)