Players cheating at alessia ps4 na server

Jake1576 · October 2017

So i tried to get my broadcast up to record them when i seen what was going on but didn't in time their was a yellow player that let blue ambush into the keep three of them they cheated just more reason pvp on ps4 na campaign vivec sucks btw zos you mind fixing ambush so ppl can't exploit to get into keeps

DRXHarbinger · October 2017

Can also chain yourself into keeps. Working as intended. Keeps it dynamic and siege is boring. I'd love to know what wood those doors are made from being able to sponge a hundred or so boulders being lobbed at them.

Turelus · October 2017

If you are caught doing so and it's clearly deliberate (as in you go on to take the keep and don't do your best to get back outside) it is considered against terms of service however.

So evidence showing people abusing such mechanics would likely end in some kind of warning/suspension/ban.

If you do get such evidence pass it on to ZOS via Gina/Jessica or one of the forums moderators.

Jake1576 · October 2017

Turelus wrote: »

If you are caught doing so and it's clearly deliberate (as in you go on to take the keep and don't do your best to get back outside) it is considered against terms of service however.

So evidence showing people abusing such mechanics would likely end in some kind of warning/suspension/ban.

If you do get such evidence pass it on to ZOS via Gina/Jessica or one of the forums moderators.

Yeah I seen an ad keep jumping off the wall and couldn't figure out why then I whent over and noticed three blues waiting for him to go in the door from the outside of the keep and as soon as I realized what they was doing I tried to record it but by the time I got recording they was already in otherwise I would of got evidence then if that wasn't enough they did it also to get into the inner where the flags was at also I tried to record it but was having difficulty getting my stream to work and didn't get it to bad tho I would of really liked to have got it seeing as how the person that was doing it was basically banned on their old account on ps4 na for the same reason and bought a new account cause their other one was permanently banned

Zbigb4life · October 2017

This has been happening on PS4 EU for over 2 years. People letting there friends into keeps to get the scrolls back without having to siege a keep or to let these cheating players kill defending people on siege weapons. Ban them all!

bloodthirstyvampire · October 2017

I remember this AD on a rock ep just standing there doing nothing I try to kill him got killed my own faction tea bags me while this AD watches more AD arrive and EP leaves

White wabbit · October 2017

Seen groups swaping outposts in dead campaigns and they didn't even care that I caught them , there will always be cheating and exploiting in every game ! But does seem to be far more in this game

phbell · October 2017

Turelus wrote: »

If you are caught doing so and it's clearly deliberate (as in you go on to take the keep and don't do your best to get back outside) it is considered against terms of service however.

So evidence showing people abusing such mechanics would likely end in some kind of warning/suspension/ban.

If you do get such evidence pass it on to ZOS via Gina/Jessica or one of the forums moderators.

If only this were true. The facts are that ZOS does nothing about the majority of cheaters in Cyrodiil and the few they do sanction are back at it in a couple of days, worse than ever. Entire pvp guilds are leaving the 7 day resource campaigns (mine included) because a handful of CE users band together and completely bully the map.

The culture of profit over game integrity within ZOS will eventually leave them with neither and that s saddening.

ArchMikem · October 2017

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

I remember this AD on a rock ep just standing there doing nothing I try to kill him got killed my own faction tea bags me while this AD watches more AD arrive and EP leaves

Yeah. That sounds like some EP i know. If i were a god mode build id have wrecked the enemy player then taunted that "ally".

"If"...

Turelus · October 2017

phbell wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

If you are caught doing so and it's clearly deliberate (as in you go on to take the keep and don't do your best to get back outside) it is considered against terms of service however.

So evidence showing people abusing such mechanics would likely end in some kind of warning/suspension/ban.

If you do get such evidence pass it on to ZOS via Gina/Jessica or one of the forums moderators.

If only this were true. The facts are that ZOS does nothing about the majority of cheaters in Cyrodiil and the few they do sanction are back at it in a couple of days, worse than ever. Entire pvp guilds are leaving the 7 day resource campaigns (mine included) because a handful of CE users band together and completely bully the map.

The culture of profit over game integrity within ZOS will eventually leave them with neither and that s saddening.

As always the issue we have is how we know they're cheating.

We're at the point now where people scream "cheat engine" the moment they don't understand something. However if someone is clearly and openly aiding enemy factions to gain access to a keep on a regular basis that's something which seems to "go against the spirit of Cyrodiil" as ZOS says and they'd likely take a look at.

It might just be warnings/suspension the first time, but at least those people learn it's not cool and should they continue to do it I would hope ZOS takes more meaningful actions.

phbell · October 2017

Turelus wrote: »

phbell wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

If you are caught doing so and it's clearly deliberate (as in you go on to take the keep and don't do your best to get back outside) it is considered against terms of service however.

So evidence showing people abusing such mechanics would likely end in some kind of warning/suspension/ban.

If you do get such evidence pass it on to ZOS via Gina/Jessica or one of the forums moderators.

If only this were true. The facts are that ZOS does nothing about the majority of cheaters in Cyrodiil and the few they do sanction are back at it in a couple of days, worse than ever. Entire pvp guilds are leaving the 7 day resource campaigns (mine included) because a handful of CE users band together and completely bully the map.

The culture of profit over game integrity within ZOS will eventually leave them with neither and that s saddening.

As always the issue we have is how we know they're cheating.

We're at the point now where people scream "cheat engine" the moment they don't understand something. However if someone is clearly and openly aiding enemy factions to gain access to a keep on a regular basis that's something which seems to "go against the spirit of Cyrodiil" as ZOS says and they'd likely take a look at.

It might just be warnings/suspension the first time, but at least those people learn it's not cool and should they continue to do it I would hope ZOS takes more meaningful actions.

Spying, and all the other activityz that come from players logging in with different tons to aid other alliance players has been going on since Beta. Those guys have a much smaller impact on the game. But take 4 players running God-mode courtesy of Cheat Engine, like we have this week in Xarxes, and the game is unplayable. Then have them switch to characters they have in different alliances and repeat the process. ZOS has problem that is easily seen - all they need to do is look. Watching ZOS fumble with cheating is more painful than playing against the cheaters. If ZOS had the slightest interest in leveling the playing field they would check which accounts have Emp on multiple toons and investigate how that might happen.

ForsakenSin · October 2017

same thing happen on xbox ive seen this blue down the fort just standing there .. so jump down just looking at him one of my alliance comes out of the door walks up and then goes back as this blue ports inside of the fort with him .. im like wtf... and then i go in try to find him in the inner walls he is not here.. so i go back inside to teleport to another and he is inside there as well !

and he kills me.. so i tried to kill him few times but nothing much i could do each time he vanishes and then jumps me.. eventually i killed him ..

at first i thought .. ohh he got lucky getting inside but now .. NOW i believe those two were working together

itscompton · October 2017

Getting rid of the Faction lock for campaigns was a huge mistake and bringing it back would go a long way towards solving issues like this.
Not only does allowing people with characters from different factions to play with all of them in the same campaign cause behavior like that mentioned above it also encourages many people to merely switch to whichever faction builds a sizable lead for the remainder of the campaign, leaving the other two factions severely under populated with no chance to come back; often spoiling competitive balance just one week into a month long campaign.
For example: in the current Vivic campaign on PS4 NA population was pretty balanced for the first few days. AD built a small lead right away but EP was able to overtake them. However AD's reaction to losing the lead was to flood the campaign in the late night/early morning hours and three days later their lead had grown so large the majority of people who have toons in multiple factions quit playing on EP and DC completely in favor of running on their AD. This has resulted in AD having three full bars at almost all times (at least 15-18 hours each day) for the last two weeks while EP and DC sit at two bars or less; only coming close to even population numbers maybe 3-4 hours a day during prime time. The larger the lead got the more people who abandoned EP and DC to the point that with one week left the only campaign that ever sees more than one population bar full , at any time, on any faction, has basically become a buff server for AD.

O_LYKOS · October 2017

There's a difference between cheating and exploiting. The game allows it to happen...sooooo

geonsocal · October 2017

i still remember the first time I saw nightblades ambush in to a keep with the help of an "enemy"...

I had already been in pvp for about six months, but, I was trying to learn how to play so I started grouping up a bunch...

joined a small 4 person group and was tagging along with them, made it to the side of a keep (faregyl I believe) - we were outside the castle wall when an enemy jumped down - i went to attack and my group started blocking me...

I had seen different alliance characters get together and chill before so it wasn't really that strange to me...

suddenly some of the group started chasing the enemy playing to one of the side doors and ambushing them - i was a nightblade and I started doing it too...

tried a couple of times, didn't get in, noticed some of the other players in the group had disappeared and it finally dawned on me what was going on...

it kind of stunned me for a few seconds...left the group and then rode away...

that was disappointing - but, nothing compared to the first time I saw an "ally" give an enemy back their scroll...or, first time I had an "ally" give away my position to a couple of enemy players (that was in IC, never been so mad before, or after, in the game)...

just recently saw someone put up 9 camps by our starter gates...i had to ask what the heck was going on in chat - turned out that was the max number of forward camps an alliance can deploy...

still waiting for someone to turn my siege weapons around on me...it'll happen, sooner or later...

yeah, people aren't always nice...i blame it on faulty genetic design...

templesus · October 2017

Lol zerging shouldnt even be in the game be glad youre multiple healers, massive numbers and 35k hp carry you to being able to do anything.

geonsocal · October 2017

O_LYKOS wrote: »

There's a difference between cheating and exploiting. The game allows it to happen...sooooo

I don't know - people are smart/clever/inventive/creative and devious as all hell at times...

not sure there are any perfect prisons - people we'll figure stuff out and push the boundaries...

not sure if it's true or not - but, i've always thought you would have to be fairly intelligent to be successful in this particular game...there's an obscene amount of reading and math going on...

I remember helping a buddy out who was getting started in the game - it took like three months of endlessly explaining what the heck was going on...not sure who it was harder on, him or me...

I don't believe there's an excessive amount of bad folks attracted to eso, or, zos is the worst host in the industry...

there's just a bunch of really "smart" people whom naturally push boundaries involved - without an abundance of ethics weighing their decision making process down

Jake1576 · October 2017

templesus wrote: »

Lol zerging shouldnt even be in the game be glad youre multiple healers, massive numbers and 35k hp carry you to being able to do anything.

What does this have to do with people exploiting to get into a keep absolutely nothing was this suppose to be a shot at me cause if so I don't even know who you are lol

Jake1576 · October 2017

O_LYKOS wrote: »

There's a difference between cheating and exploiting. The game allows it to happen...sooooo

Just because something can be done doesn't make it right and it's exploiting a broken skill that shouldn't work this way vmol was also able to be exploited before and it didn't make it the right thing and players got perma banned for doing it if I would of been able to record these players exploiting something they shouldn't of been doing zos would of probably treated them just like the vmol ppl exploiting and gave them a warning or banned them the player that was the one doing it already was banned on their old account before for basically the same thing if you are wondering who I'm referring to it's the current person who is number one on DC leaderboard in vivec ps4 na campaign

MinarasLaure · October 2017

Like frozen gate or whatever is called, the warden ability.
Nothing new under the sun

Qbiken · October 2017

Jake1576 wrote: »

O_LYKOS wrote: »

There's a difference between cheating and exploiting. The game allows it to happen...sooooo

Just because something can be done doesn't make it right and it's exploiting a broken skill that shouldn't work this way vmol was also able to be exploited before and it didn't make it the right thing and players got perma banned for doing it if I would of been able to record these players exploiting something they shouldn't of been doing zos would of probably treated them just like the vmol ppl exploiting and gave them a warning or banned them the player that was the one doing it already was banned on their old account before for basically the same thing if you are wondering who I'm referring to it's the current person who is number one on DC leaderboard in vivec ps4 na campaign

Update, vMoL can still be exploited....... (have reported it to ZOS)

DRXHarbinger · October 2017

Qbiken wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

O_LYKOS wrote: »

There's a difference between cheating and exploiting. The game allows it to happen...sooooo

Just because something can be done doesn't make it right and it's exploiting a broken skill that shouldn't work this way vmol was also able to be exploited before and it didn't make it the right thing and players got perma banned for doing it if I would of been able to record these players exploiting something they shouldn't of been doing zos would of probably treated them just like the vmol ppl exploiting and gave them a warning or banned them the player that was the one doing it already was banned on their old account before for basically the same thing if you are wondering who I'm referring to it's the current person who is number one on DC leaderboard in vivec ps4 na campaign

Update, vMoL can still be exploited....... (have reported it to ZOS)

This never went away. Every patch undoes their fixes. Patch day arrives... the farm begins for so many

Qbiken · October 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

O_LYKOS wrote: »

There's a difference between cheating and exploiting. The game allows it to happen...sooooo

Just because something can be done doesn't make it right and it's exploiting a broken skill that shouldn't work this way vmol was also able to be exploited before and it didn't make it the right thing and players got perma banned for doing it if I would of been able to record these players exploiting something they shouldn't of been doing zos would of probably treated them just like the vmol ppl exploiting and gave them a warning or banned them the player that was the one doing it already was banned on their old account before for basically the same thing if you are wondering who I'm referring to it's the current person who is number one on DC leaderboard in vivec ps4 na campaign

Update, vMoL can still be exploited....... (have reported it to ZOS)

This never went away. Every patch undoes their fixes. Patch day arrives... the farm begins for so many

They fixed so that you can´t reach final boss (At least on PC). The rest of the trial can still be exploited/bypassed

Pele · October 2017

This is why we can't have nice things.

Jake1576 · November 2017

Boy if the cheating already made me not want to play now the load screen's are making me not want to I haven't even logged in for a week now not really sure how vivec ps4 na looks right now but I would imagine it's probably dead

Tan9oSuccka · November 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Can also chain yourself into keeps. Working as intended. Keeps it dynamic and siege is boring. I'd love to know what wood those doors are made from being able to sponge a hundred or so boulders being lobbed at them.

Dynamic cheating?

Now I’ve heard everything.

geonsocal · November 2017

Jake1576 wrote: »

Boy if the cheating already made me not want to play now the load screen's are making me not want to I haven't even logged in for a week now not really sure how vivec ps4 na looks right now but I would imagine it's probably dead

we've been averaging 2 bars EP, AD and 1 bar DC during primetime...

after awhile, restarting the app just becomes something you do...spending a lot of time laying on the ground in some out of the way spot - hoping like crazy that someone will come along and rez you, just becomes something you do...

disintegr8 · November 2017

There will always be people who will do anything within their power to get ahead. Sometimes you have to stop, take a deep breath, count to 10 (or 100 if that is what it takes) and remind yourself that it is just a game.

KingMagaw · November 2017

Once again it is left to players to police ESO while ZOS ignore fixing broken mechanicss for years.

Ambush in - Check

Chains in - Check

Port to someone else's shadow image - Check.

Nothing being done to fix it - Check

Too much weight is on players to police this game and squander their limited playtime to do so, with the result being a 3 day suspension if even that.

Vaoh · November 2017

KingMagaw wrote: »

Once again it is left to players to police ESO while ZOS ignore fixing broken mechanicss for years.

Ambush in - Check

Chains in - Check

Port to someone else's shadow image - Check.

Nothing being done to fix it - Check

Too much weight is on players to police this game and squander their limited playtime to do so, with the result being a 3 day suspension if even that.

What? Let’s not make stuff up now lol

KingMagaw · November 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

KingMagaw wrote: »

Once again it is left to players to police ESO while ZOS ignore fixing broken mechanicss for years.

Ambush in - Check

Chains in - Check

Port to someone else's shadow image - Check.

Nothing being done to fix it - Check

Too much weight is on players to police this game and squander their limited playtime to do so, with the result being a 3 day suspension if even that.

What? Let’s not make stuff up now lol

Maybe not on console, idk as i play PC, but it has been working like that for some time now. Haven't seen/asked around recently but doubtful ZOS have fixed it yet

When was it patched?