3 minute timer on plunder skulls

faerigirl · October 2017

3 minutes is not enough, it should be 5+

They should put them on quest turn in's too.

If ZOS put them on other things people would actually play the game. I understand if you have completed all the games content and zerging delve bosses is your only option but I assume since they made it XP oriented too that they want you to actually play the game rather than just standing around waiting on a boss that will be dead seconds after respawn.

If people find that fun, more power to them. I did the delve and dungeon runs, I just didn't wait more than a respawn or two because I got bored

Enslaved · October 2017

2 minutes would be better option for all

It seems Zos enjoy grief inducting systems like 3 minute timers. So many players will not wait few more seconds so all can get plunder skull from a boss, resulting in players hating others. GG Zos.

Giraffon · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

The timer sucks. I got stiffed out of two skulls in a dungeon run last night just because we had a good group. We were easily getting to the next boss and killing it before the cool down reset.

Nestor · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Of course, if your camped at a boss, the 3 minute timer sucks. Stop Camping at a boss. Can there be a more boring way to play the game?

In the normal course of the game, you get a skull on every boss kill as your killing them more than 3 minutes apart. The only exception to this is Public Dungeons as the bosses can be close together. But, you usually wait for bosses in those places anyway.

Just play the game you will get more skulls than you want soon enough.

Enslaved · October 2017

2 minutes would be better option for all

Nestor wrote: »

Of course, if your camped at a boss, the 3 minute timer sucks. Stop Camping at a boss. Can there be a more boring way to play the game?

In the normal course of the game, you get a skull on every boss kill as your killing them more than 3 minutes apart. The only exception to this is Public Dungeons as the bosses can be close together. But, you usually wait for bosses in those places anyway.

Just play the game you will get more skulls than you want soon enough.

It turned into 2nd job. At least, for us trying to get achievement on all alts. You need 100 skulls for each of your alts. That is more than 5 hours per alt. If you try to get in on 10 alts, you would need to play more than 5h per day each day for 10 days. That is simply crazy.

These events should be account wide, or 3 minute timers should go.

ookami007 · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Remove it. The natural spacing between bosses should prevent normal abuses and not penalize us for ZoS's lack of foresight in boss placement.

Let's check it:

Dolmens - No problem. One boss at the end of the sequence. Sometimes, if you're doing dolmen farming you will run into the issue but unless you are doing it in one of the easy zones, it's USUALLY not an issue.

Overland Bosses - The timer on the boss re-spawn timers prevents this from occurring on farming the same boss, but boss farming circuits can easily outstrip this.

Normal Group Dungeons - Problems with NORMAL dungeons. Because we blitz through the normal dungeons, you FREQUENTLY miss out on skulls by as much as a minute or two - again, because of the design of the dungeon and/or boss placement

Vet Group Dungeons - Problems even with VET dungeons. A good group can get through many bosses and be on to the next one before the 3 minute timer - again, because of the design of the dungeon and/or boss placement. This is less frequent than normal mode.

Public Dungeons - Biggest problem areas. Many dungeons have bosses so close, you may only get a skull every 2nd or 3rd (or 4th) boss you kill.

Delves - Usually not a problem. The boss re-spawn timers keep this from being an issue and it's not really possible to get to 2 delve bosses in 3 minutes in most cases.

nimander99 · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Timer was a mistake, this event was way more fun last year when you weren't watching you watch between two boss's in a public dungeon.

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Enslaved wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Of course, if your camped at a boss, the 3 minute timer sucks. Stop Camping at a boss. Can there be a more boring way to play the game?

In the normal course of the game, you get a skull on every boss kill as your killing them more than 3 minutes apart. The only exception to this is Public Dungeons as the bosses can be close together. But, you usually wait for bosses in those places anyway.

Just play the game you will get more skulls than you want soon enough.

It turned into 2nd job. At least, for us trying to get achievement on all alts. You need 100 skulls for each of your alts. That is more than 5 hours per alt. If you try to get in on 10 alts, you would need to play more than 5h per day each day for 10 days. That is simply crazy.

These events should be account wide, or 3 minute timers should go.

This is why they invented "next year"

Nestor · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

nimander99 wrote: »

Timer was a mistake, this event was way more fun last year when you weren't watching you watch between two boss's in a public dungeon.

The timer was in place last year too. This is not new to the event.

Enslaved wrote: »

It turned into 2nd job. At least, for us trying to get achievement on all alts. You need 100 skulls for each of your alts.

Why do you need this achievement on more than one character? Only one has to have it to qualify to buy the new house for gold.

Overall Achievement has a Title, but not the Skull Achievement

max_only · October 2017

3 minutes is not enough, it should be 5+

Nestor wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

Timer was a mistake, this event was way more fun last year when you weren't watching you watch between two boss's in a public dungeon.

The timer was in place last year too. This is not new to the event.

Enslaved wrote: »

It turned into 2nd job. At least, for us trying to get achievement on all alts. You need 100 skulls for each of your alts.

Why do you need this achievement on more than one character? Only one has to have it to qualify to buy the new house for gold. Otherwise the achievement does nothing for your character, no dye or title is given.

The title is per character...

Nestor · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

max_only wrote: »

The title is per character...

OK, the over all one is that the skull achieve is part of.

Better get farming then. They are not going to change this, they did not when people wanted it account wide last year. Or, pick the character that has the best chance of getting the title.

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Nestor wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

Timer was a mistake, this event was way more fun last year when you weren't watching you watch between two boss's in a public dungeon.

The timer was in place last year too. This is not new to the event.

Enslaved wrote: »

It turned into 2nd job. At least, for us trying to get achievement on all alts. You need 100 skulls for each of your alts.

Why do you need this achievement on more than one character? Only one has to have it to qualify to buy the new house for gold. Otherwise the achievement does nothing for your character, no dye or title is given.

They are talking about the holiday achievement, whcih has a title, not the collection of plunder.

Recremen · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

At first I was like "Oh three minutes is fine I have yet to be personally affected by this" but then I did vet Wayrest Sewers 2 and half the bosses didn't drop skulls because we took them out too fast and they're like one right after the other. :-( Feels bad, yo.

Nestor · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

lordrichter wrote: »

They are talking about the holiday achievement, whcih has a title, not the collection of plunder.

I know, I know, I fixed it

Spacemonkey · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Not too sure about people saying its more than 3.

Ive been grinding them in secret locations, dungeon bosses. With a literal 3 min timer. 2 bosses spawning close to one another, Literaly every 3 min i get a skull.

UNLESS - some frigg@#)%*@#)%@)$Y$ zerg decides to come and messes up spawns and early kills everything cz they cant wait. THen everything gets thrown out of wack, boss is forced spawn, early killed, drops nothing, or drops but no skull, etc..

Aka. calm down people and take your time. Running around killing bosses as fast as possible is a good way to have a skull every 5 min+ only (sometimes 10 mins if you get unlucky and are on a pattern of forced spawns). Find an area and just take it slow. If you find a boss and someone is waiting next to it, not attacking it, its smarter to not attack it. Its probably timed. Talk, ask. - If they dont answer, they migth be afk and go ahead, kill boss.

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Spacemonkey wrote: »

Not too sure about people saying its more than 3.

Ive been grinding them in secret locations, dungeon bosses. With a literal 3 min timer. 2 bosses spawning close to one another, Literaly every 3 min i get a skull.

UNLESS - some frigg@#)%*@#)%@)$Y$ zerg decides to come and messes up spawns and early kills everything cz they cant wait. THen everything gets thrown out of wack, boss is forced spawn, early killed, drops nothing, or drops but no skull, etc..

Aka. calm down people and take your time. Running around killing bosses as fast as possible is a good way to have a skull every 5 min+ only (sometimes 10 mins if you get unlucky and are on a pattern of forced spawns). Find an area and just take it slow. If you find a boss and someone is waiting next to it, not attacking it, its smarter to not attack it. Its probably timed. Talk, ask. - If they dont answer, they migth be afk and go ahead, kill boss.

Delve bosses are 4 minutes, but they spawn naturally on a 5 minute timer. (unless someone comes into the delve)

PlagueSD · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

I thought the timer was 5 mins. I just go find a boss in a public dungeon that I can easily solo. Spawns every 5 mins, 15 seconds of combat, drops a skull every time. As an added bonus, I sit and troll the forums while I wait for respawn.

Ridinghood2000 · October 2017

I myself am just about over the skulls. I keep getting the same things over and over again with no masks whatsoever. I thought about buying one, but people want a ridiculous amount for them. I have lost count of all the skulls I have gotten. I did get a 6th piece of something or rather...part of a rune box for a costume that needs 7 pieces.

Cadbury · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Meh. I just have Netflix/Hulu/Youtube/guild chat running in the background.

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Ridinghood2000 wrote: »

I myself am just about over the skulls. I keep getting the same things over and over again with no masks whatsoever. I thought about buying one, but people want a ridiculous amount for them. I have lost count of all the skulls I have gotten. I did get a 6th piece of something or rather...part of a rune box for a costume that needs 7 pieces.

I have found enough branches, sticks, saplings, or whatever they are to start my own forest. I destroy them if I am out of space and not near a merchant, vendor them if there is no reason to go the bank, and bank them if I think they might have resale value in a couple months.

Some guy in a delve went into a tirade over them. It was pretty entertaining.

Pink_E_808 · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

@Ridinghood2000, I finally got a mask yesterday after opening around 300 skulls. I'd been plundering like crazy the first few days then was only able to get on for about an hour yesterday and got 10 skulls, it was in the 9th. Don't give up hope!!

Ridinghood2000 · October 2017

Oh I HATE those twigs!!!! They get destroyed. I have destroyed a couple of recipes or motifs..I guess I should save those. Maybe they might be worth something later on lol

Pink_E_808 · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

I'm waiting for someone to make a Burning Man at their house with all the branches. I would, but don't have the space, lol.
#BurningManTamriel2017

PlagueSD · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

krachall wrote: »

I knew there was a way to put this to use other than scattering them in my yard.

Blair Witch anyone???

Nestor · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

PlagueSD wrote: »

I thought the timer was 5 mins. I just go find a boss in a public dungeon that I can easily solo. Spawns every 5 mins, 15 seconds of combat, drops a skull every time. As an added bonus, I sit and troll the forums while I wait for respawn.

It's 3 Mins. I have an addon that starts the clock as soon as I pick up a skull and when it shows 3 minutes are up, you get a skull. I even tested this with guildmates on a boss in a Group Dungeon. We killed it at 3:03 on the timer and got a skull. Kill it at 2:58 and no skull.

rootimus · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Nestor wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

I thought the timer was 5 mins. I just go find a boss in a public dungeon that I can easily solo. Spawns every 5 mins, 15 seconds of combat, drops a skull every time. As an added bonus, I sit and troll the forums while I wait for respawn.

It's 3 Mins. I have an addon that starts the clock as soon as I pick up a skull and when it shows 3 minutes are up, you get a skull. I even tested this with guildmates on a boss in a Group Dungeon. We killed it at 3:03 on the timer and got a skull. Kill it at 2:58 and no skull.

The addon I'm using seems to think it's at least 4 minutes, but less than 5, in a public dungeon. Are group dungeons supposed to have a different timer?

Nestor · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

rootimus wrote: »

The addon I'm using seems to think it's at least 4 minutes, but less than 5, in a public dungeon. Are group dungeons supposed to have a different timer?

This is the addon I use

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1501-PlunderSkullTimer2017WitchesFestival.html

Does not matter if its a Group Dungeon, Delve, Public Dungeon or World Boss. Also does not matter how long its been spawned. It is the amount of time, kill to kill (well, loot to kill really, but how long you gonna stare at a corpse?)

This is based on all the bosses I have killed. There are a couple of places where there is a world boss a hop and a skip from a dolmen, so I have killed the next too quickly a few times. Same in Public Dungeons. It is always 3 minutes in my experience.

Now, most Bosses are on a 4 to 5 minute spawn timer, so that could be how the addon your using is set up. I have a favorite PD that gives me 4 bosses on a lap that is easy to do 3 minutes apart, so little waiting. Since there are 4, I have spawn at each one as I get there (12 minute round trip, always 9 minutes since I last killed a specific one). So I wait for the timer to get to 2:55 and take down the boss.

rootimus · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

That's the addon I'm using. I run the public dungeon in Deshaan so there's no shortage of boss kills, but if I start combat with one at 3:01 I don't get a skull.

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Nestor wrote: »

rootimus wrote: »

The addon I'm using seems to think it's at least 4 minutes, but less than 5, in a public dungeon. Are group dungeons supposed to have a different timer?

This is the addon I use

http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1501-PlunderSkullTimer2017WitchesFestival.html

Does not matter if its a Group Dungeon, Delve, Public Dungeon or World Boss. Also does not matter how long its been spawned. It is the amount of time, kill to kill (well, loot to kill really, but how long you gonna stare at a corpse?)

This is based on all the bosses I have killed. There are a couple of places where there is a world boss a hop and a skip from a dolmen, so I have killed the next too quickly a few times. Same in Public Dungeons. It is always 3 minutes in my experience.

Now, most Bosses are on a 4 to 5 minute spawn timer, so that could be how the addon your using is set up. I have a favorite PD that gives me 4 bosses on a lap that is easy to do 3 minutes apart, so little waiting. Since there are 4, I have spawn at each one as I get there (12 minute round trip, always 9 minutes since I last killed a specific one). So I wait for the timer to get to 2:55 and take down the boss.

And, just to repeat, if you are in a Delve it is four minutes between boss kills. As @Nestor said, it does not matter when it spawns, only when it is killed.

Nestor · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

rootimus wrote: »

That's the addon I'm using. I run the public dungeon in Deshaan so there's no shortage of boss kills, but if I start combat with one at 3:01 I don't get a skull.

That is weird. I spent about an hour running around the PD in question. 3 minutes was the time.

Well, just more skulls for me then.....

I would test the Delve one, but I can't think of any two delves that are close enough and small enough to do 3 minutes apart. Hmm, there is a small one in Rivenspire close to a WS that I might be able to do that with after taking down the dolmen up there.