AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Working as intended though it is annoying.

Why would this be intended? What is the intent here?

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

It's to prevent people that leave part way through a dungeon rejoining the group finder. There is a good chance that they will be stuck with the same 15 minute penalty.

But in the video, you can see that I didn't leave. In fact, I did nothing at all.

That can't be the intent right? To penalize people who DON'T leave?

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Unfortunately, you were put in a group in the middle of disband.
While I don't think the penalty was intended for a situation like this. I don't think that ZOS can separate a situation like this from a drop.
The failed jump tells me that the previous drop hadn't cleared the dungeon before the rest started dropping group.

But if you get kicked from a dungeon, there is no penalty for the person who got kicked, even if they queued within 15 minutes. So if ZOS can separate that situation, they can surely separate the situation where the group disbands right?

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

bhagwad wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Unfortunately, you were put in a group in the middle of disband.
While I don't think the penalty was intended for a situation like this. I don't think that ZOS can separate a situation like this from a drop.
The failed jump tells me that the previous drop hadn't cleared the dungeon before the rest started dropping group.

But if you get kicked from a dungeon, there is no penalty for the person who got kicked, even if they queued within 15 minutes. So if ZOS can separate that situation, they can surely separate the situation where the group disbands right?

If you get kicked from a group within the 15 minutes you still suffer from the wait time. It's just that most group kicks happen after 15 minutes has passed because the person kicked was holding the group back or was offline and never returned.

Not true. I've kicked people from the beginning of dungeons, only to have them come immediately back.

And last month I was kicked immediately from a vRoM dungeon because I was lower level. I was able to queue immediately again with no penalty, and got into the SAME group again, and was promptly kicked immediately once more. And then I queued yet again at once.

So no - being kicked from a dungeon results in 0 penalty for the person being kicked even if it happens within 15 minutes of the group forming.

kyle.wilson wrote: »

You weren't kicked though, you were the last person in group. This counts the same as a disband or quit to the system.

I've had this happen on PC a few times. Mostly when I queue as a tank or heals, and the previous person rage quit over the group quality.

That sounds like a bug then. Being the last person in a group that disbanded shouldn't count as a "quit" or "leave". Because it's inaccurate.

kyle.wilson wrote: »

bhagwad wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

bhagwad wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Unfortunately, you were put in a group in the middle of disband.
While I don't think the penalty was intended for a situation like this. I don't think that ZOS can separate a situation like this from a drop.
The failed jump tells me that the previous drop hadn't cleared the dungeon before the rest started dropping group.

But if you get kicked from a dungeon, there is no penalty for the person who got kicked, even if they queued within 15 minutes. So if ZOS can separate that situation, they can surely separate the situation where the group disbands right?

If you get kicked from a group within the 15 minutes you still suffer from the wait time. It's just that most group kicks happen after 15 minutes has passed because the person kicked was holding the group back or was offline and never returned.

Not true. I've kicked people from the beginning of dungeons, only to have them come immediately back.

And last month I was kicked immediately from a vRoM dungeon because I was lower level. I was able to queue immediately again with no penalty, and got into the SAME group again, and was promptly kicked immediately once more. And then I queued yet again at once.

So no - being kicked from a dungeon results in 0 penalty for the person being kicked even if it happens within 15 minutes of the group forming.

I've had the reverse happen, I was in a group that wouldn't listen about the planar in WGT. I dropped group and re-queued as a tank. Got shoved back in the group. Needless to say I logged that time for the day.

That's probably working as intended, since you were most likely in the dungeon for longer than 15 minutes, if you managed to reach the Planar Inhibitor!