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Should ZOS get rid of bind-on-pickup (BoP) items?
Chronicburn
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Do you think we should be able to freely trade or sell items we get or should we be stuck with them just because we touched it first...
Also ... if you comment ... why the f would ZoS do this to us in the first place? WE ARE SO NICE TO THEM,
subscribing for a monthly fee and buying all their extras etc... do we deserve this kick in the balls?
Edited by Chronicburn on October 22, 2017 7:17PM Also ... if you comment ... why the f would ZoS do this to us in the first place? WE ARE SO NICE TO THEM,
subscribing for a monthly fee and buying all their extras etc... do we deserve this kick in the balls?
Should ZOS get rid of bind-on-pickup (BoP) items? 156 votes
Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell them
61%
96 votes
No - keep BoP items - No trading/selling
38%
60 votes
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Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingAs I said in another poll on this topic, no, it would ruin vet dungeons and trails. It's hard enough to keep steady vet content players as it is.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themGirl_Number8 wrote: »As I said in another poll on this topic, no, it would ruin vet dungeons and trails. It's hard enough to keep steady vet content players as it is.
The logic is backwards because bop eliminates the hardcore playerbase from those activities.
Someone that has everything they can wish for from any dungeon won´t bother running anything as there is nothing to gain from that.
Farming is done in private groups on normal mode and adds nothing to keeping those activities alive for the general playerbase.<Noricum>
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Mazbt✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themLet's say you do certain content very often you may end up getting good gear in multiples. What you gonna do with all this gear that some people may want and may not have the best luck in the world or the will to grind. If they are not grouped with you (or if you are doing maelstrom) you can't give or sell the gear to someone who may need it. So you end up vendoring perfectly good gear since it may be redundant to keep. They should just toss bop out the window.Edited by Mazbt on October 22, 2017 7:39PMMazari the Resurrected (AD)- PVP stamplar main
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pod88kk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingNo it's fine the way it is now. Maelstrom and Trial weapons should be given to those who earned them6 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themI just say remove all Boe/Bop and let everyone sell what they want just as long as it doesn't involve real $1 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingSome stuff should be earned.
Not everything needs to cater to the Trade Moguls. They already have enough ways to rake in crazy gold with this obnoxious trade guild system.
Honestly, the games I've seen with total free-for-all/non-BoP, the economies have been disasters.
(And yeah, I was never at the level of Raiding/Trials/etc in any of the MMOs I've played. But that doesn't mean I should have been able to just buy the stuff. If I don't raid, I don't get raid gear. Nothing wrong with that. /shrug)10 -
ThePrinceOfBargains✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themNot necessarily removed. Just less of them.2 -
ArcVelarian✭✭✭✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingMostly no. Maybe make Green and Blue quality Dungeon Set Jewelry BoE.Murphy's Law of PvP : If it can be abused and or exploited, it will be abused and or exploited.0 -
Faunter✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themCrown Unbinding Elixir - 700 Crowns - Single Use
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Mazbt✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themKiralyn2000 wrote: »Some stuff should be earned.
Not everything needs to cater to the Trade Moguls. They already have enough ways to rake in crazy gold with this obnoxious trade guild system.
Honestly, the games I've seen with total free-for-all/non-BoP, the economies have been disasters.
(And yeah, I was never at the level of Raiding/Trials/etc in any of the MMOs I've played. But that doesn't mean I should have been able to just buy the stuff. If I don't raid, I don't get raid gear. Nothing wrong with that. /shrug)
I don't think your realize how common some of the raiding gear is if you do certain raids very often. It is just stuck in your inventory as extra and could benefit someone who needs except it's trashed.Mazari the Resurrected (AD)- PVP stamplar main
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ereboz✭✭✭✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingAbsolutely not. You should definitely keep BoP gear. But I would be ok with a material that could be farmed once a week or so with weekly dungeons, trials, battle grounds, etc that allowed you to unbind a piece of gear0
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OblivionNW✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingThere needs to be a reason to run dungeons and trials. If BoP gear was tradeable no-one would run them. Just imagine the queue as a DPS...
Gold should not be able to buy everything, let people earn the gear they use.1 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingNot everything needs to be BoE. Trials dropping gold jewelry like viper, worm etc should comeback like it was before. Some stuff should be earned, not bought in traders1
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themI don't see having to run Dungeoms over and over as new content and don't believe it's a good system . PVE players will run dungeons over and over if that's what they like to do . It's a good stimulus for the economy to allow more things to be sold or traded . Crafted sets are now almost just as good anyways and more people that don't want to grind all the time just use those anyways now . Making money will give incentives to keep grinding dungeons just like it did before the change . The economy has been in a slump a long time since these changes . Bots flood the market with mats so those are low on PC and the limited amount of non boe items is too low along with crafted being bis sometimes . It's a good time to go back to the way it was .Edited by Rohamad_Ali on October 22, 2017 9:39PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themOblivionNW wrote: »There needs to be a reason to run dungeons and trials. If BoP gear was tradeable no-one would run them. Just imagine the queue as a DPS...
Gold should not be able to buy everything, let people earn the gear they use.
Trials population actually dropped when gear was changed from BoE to BoP. This is because trials are incredibly expensive to run (in terms of potions/poisons) and so people need a source of income to run them regularly.
Although dungeons are easy enough that there is no cost attached to running them (you don't need to use any potions), most people run them for pledges, not for their gear. People still do farm them for gear, but the biggest segment of the population, by far, is doing pledges, and they wouldn't be affected by BoE gear.Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 22, 2017 9:46PM2 -
Faunter✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell them
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Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingWow... Even with the trait changes here, and anyone in your group able to give you what they picked up... The "grind" this game used to have is gone, literally. Why are you that lazy? You would like an option to be able to buy any piece of gear with gold??? This new age of gamers is sad to say the least. Go do some content that has the gear you want, feel a reward for completing things... Crafted gear is already so powerful, you should consider that as a blessing... Any MMO that offers all the gear to players for gold is trash, its as simple as that. I would much rather complete content to get certain gear than buying it with gold, reevaluate your opinion.
PS, I have a very large amount of gold and this is still my opinion.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingThere has always been BoE and BoP in the game. It was just moved around. Besides, I would rather this new system coming into play vs everything being BoE. Much better this way.
No one kicked anyone in the balls over this in respect to OPs claims.
Edit: The statement Shadzilla made above sums things up pretty good. I would add that everything being BoE could increase gold seller and bot activity which is not a good thing.Edited by idk on October 22, 2017 10:18PM2 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingMLGProPlayer wrote: »OblivionNW wrote: »There needs to be a reason to run dungeons and trials. If BoP gear was tradeable no-one would run them. Just imagine the queue as a DPS...
Gold should not be able to buy everything, let people earn the gear they use.
Trials population actually dropped when gear was changed from BoE to BoP. This is because trials are incredibly expensive to run (in terms of potions/poisons) and so people need a source of income to run them regularly.
Although dungeons are easy enough that there is no cost attached to running them (you don't need to use any potions), most people run them for pledges, not for their gear. People still do farm them for gear, but the biggest segment of the population, by far, is doing pledges, and they wouldn't be affected by BoE gear.
Undaunted plunder and the HM plunder reward more than make up for the cost in poisons, pots and repairs.
Vet trials are only a net loss if you get stuck on a boss for 3 hours and then call it.
It's very true though that a big chunk of the vet trials community was doing vet trials after they had all the gear they needed so they could sell the gold jewellery for huge sums of gold, and their time was better spent farming sharpened over land drops after trials drops became BoP.0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingThere has always been BoE and BoP in the game. It was just moved around. Besides, I would rather this new system coming into play vs everything being BoE. Much better this way.
No one kicked anyone in the balls over this in respect to OPs claims.
Edit: The statement Shadzilla made above sums things up pretty good. I would add that everything being BoE could increase gold seller and bot activity which is not a good thing.
Thank you.0 -
Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themyes get rid of it because rng is broken. Farming for gear turns me off in trying new characters. As a solo player it's just a huge waste of time.2 -
CheepsNSalsa✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themI can't think of a better way to stimulate the economy. Maelstrom, master and trial weapons should remain BoP though.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭People are going to be angry if all the BoP items are removed from the game. People spent a lot of time getting those and have built entire play styles around some of the BoP gear. Getting rid of them now would be a blow to these players.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."2 -
Chronicburn✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themThere has always been BoE and BoP in the game. It was just moved around. Besides, I would rather this new system coming into play vs everything being BoE. Much better this way.
No one kicked anyone in the balls over this in respect to OPs claims.
Edit: The statement Shadzilla made above sums things up pretty good. I would add that everything being BoE could increase gold seller and bot activity which is not a good thing.
No one said anything about BoE ... BoP is garbage because if you don't want it you can't even sell it to someone who does. Bad design... WoW style crap. What you want this garbage from WoW but not their awesome Auction house?2 -
Chronicburn✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themGirl_Number8 wrote: »As I said in another poll on this topic, no, it would ruin vet dungeons and trails. It's hard enough to keep steady vet content players as it is.
Would be even better if people could farm it to sell the stuff2 -
Chronicburn✭✭✭✭Yes - get rid of BoP items, let us sell themNo it's fine the way it is now. Maelstrom and Trial weapons should be given to those who earned them
I'm sure they wouldn't be "given" either way. If they weren't BoP they could be sold for HUGE amounts of gold to someone who needs them ... instead of rotting in the bank or deconstructed by someone who doesn't ...0 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - keep BoP items - No trading/sellingBoP is a reward for running content, not farming resource nodes.1
