3 minute timer on plunder skulls

Loc2262 · October 2017

1 minute sounds perfect

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

I'm trying to figure this out. Presumably, the only reason to get all the witches festival achieves is to be able to buy the house. Said house ownership carries over between toons; even the runebox costumes carry over between toons; so what's the point of finishing all the witches achieves on multiple alts?

Probably the same reason why people do Master Angler on multiple chars. "Completionism".

Rex-Umbra · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

For realz skull loot already useless.

theher0not · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Remove the timer for different bosses. But keep it 3 mins before getting loot from the same boss.

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

starkerealm wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

The timer is to mitigate abuse.

Specifically, with an acomplice, there are a few places in the game where you can average a boss kill every 45 -60 seconds. Not much point to do this normally because the XP isn't that good, and the drops certainly aren't. But, with skulls for the taking? Yeah, that'd be an issue.

It is good to be able to fall back on something like a timer.

Last year, there was a common delve boss that spawned every 30 seconds. If Plunder Skulls had dropped every time, a person could get 100 of them in less than an hour. Once can argue that maybe the boss should not have been spawning every 30 seconds, and this year he does not, but it did prevent abuse.

DarcyMardin wrote: »

It feels more like a 5 minute timer to me. But I haven’t tried a stop-watch.

A lot of the delve bosses spawn on a 5 minute timer like clockwork.

danno8 · October 2017

Linaleah wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

TheMaster wrote: »

It kept me doing something in the game the whole day yesterday and the rng for the hollowjack chapters isn’t ridiculously bad. I think it’s fine as is. Stop doing Dolmens or farming if that’s what you’re doing. I was about ready to bash my head over a wall doing that crap after 50 skulls (which was approximately 100-150 dolmens). Use it as incentive to gather skyshards from delves or complete other activities. Personally, I don’t bother doing achievements for multiple alts. It’s going to get tedious no matter what.

My main issue is not the place I grind for skulls, but the timer that is way too long. 3 minutes makes me lose too much time because once u get to next boss/dolmen/world boss there is already a group that starts the fight at once, resulting in no plunder skull for me. If timer was 2 minutes, I would be half finished on second alt already.

Go use an instance instead. nVMSa, or any normal dungeon will present a nice private boss every 3 minutes with no competition or other players to mess you up.

in my experience a lot if not all the normal dungeons present bosses more often then every 3 minutes, EVEN when you are on a quest.

I was talking about soloing it.

danno8 · October 2017

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Stop zerging like sheep and go to Maelstorm. It's like 30-50k XP per round, and a skull per boss. 9 in 30mins and productive on a few levels.

Only for the people who can clear Maelstrom (either "easily" or "at all")

Normal Maelstrom is so easy. The mobs are no harder than landscape. The bosses are harder than delve "bosses" but not nearly as hard as world bosses.

You might die a few times on the first run through until you learn, "oh I have to do x" but really, it's very very easy.

Or, you can tough it out competing with 50 people in Dolmens.

Vrienda · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Farming 100 of the blighters is a nightmare with that cooldown, I’d be done by now otherwise.

Got 50 so far, counting both this and last years.

Drummerx04 · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Don't you have something like a full week left to get skulls? Just go do some dungeons with a couple friends. Go do wrothgar daily quests as a way to pace your boss kills. Most of those are well within the solo killable range.

Do you have low af dps? Do some normal dungeons with your friends.
Are you an average dps? Do some vet dungeons with your friends.
Are you a really good dps in a trials guild? Do some trials with your friends.
Have no friends? Do normal or vet Maelstrom Arena, I took this event as an excuse to break out my stamDK and have a go at vMA for the first time on a stam toon with a crappy skill setup, but you know what? I walked away with 9 skulls.

There are so many more damaging changes/nerfs/additions to ESO than a 3 minute skull drop timer.

Insandros · October 2017

give you more time to get it, if not you could simply bot your toon on a delv boss and farm it. so, good thing they made it. Just run dungeons, each dungeons has 5 boss or so, so, no need to cry about a timer.

Linaleah · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

danno8 wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

TheMaster wrote: »

It kept me doing something in the game the whole day yesterday and the rng for the hollowjack chapters isn’t ridiculously bad. I think it’s fine as is. Stop doing Dolmens or farming if that’s what you’re doing. I was about ready to bash my head over a wall doing that crap after 50 skulls (which was approximately 100-150 dolmens). Use it as incentive to gather skyshards from delves or complete other activities. Personally, I don’t bother doing achievements for multiple alts. It’s going to get tedious no matter what.

My main issue is not the place I grind for skulls, but the timer that is way too long. 3 minutes makes me lose too much time because once u get to next boss/dolmen/world boss there is already a group that starts the fight at once, resulting in no plunder skull for me. If timer was 2 minutes, I would be half finished on second alt already.

Go use an instance instead. nVMSa, or any normal dungeon will present a nice private boss every 3 minutes with no competition or other players to mess you up.

in my experience a lot if not all the normal dungeons present bosses more often then every 3 minutes, EVEN when you are on a quest.

I was talking about soloing it.

I was soloing public dungeon earlier today. somehow weirdly enough I was the only one there. guess how long it took me to move between bosses? I may not be good enough to solo normal dungeons but I can mange public ones and even with my crappy dps it took me about a minute and a half to move from one boss to the next. so then I would just sit there for another minute and a half.

moreover, not everyone chooses to solo normal dungeons. not everyone can. but in a group? guess what. it generally takes less then 3 minutes to get from boss to boss. here we are, not botting, just playing as normal, going from boss to boss in a dungeon. and we are penalized for... killing trash too quickly? bosses being too close to each other? a LOT of normal dungeons are like that.

Linaleah · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

theher0not wrote: »

Remove the timer for different bosses. But keep it 3 mins before getting loot from the same boss.

this would literally solve all the issues.

P.S. for people who are confused why someone who already did the event might want to farm skulls, aside from the completionism. new furnishings and masks. i have personaly only found 2 new blueprints, no actual furnishings (just branches, that already dropped and will continue to drop from resources in the world) and no new masks. its only a day one. I'm aware. but having to wait, or missing out on drops breaks up the flow and adds unnecessary annoyances.

Malkorga · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Stop zerging like sheep and go to Maelstorm. It's like 30-50k XP per round, and a skull per boss. 9 in 30mins and productive on a few levels.

Only for the people who can clear Maelstrom (either "easily" or "at all")

All you need is to clear a few rounds, abandons the quest , and start over. Much less headache that way if you are unable to go all 9 rounds.

Loc2262 · October 2017

1 minute sounds perfect

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Do you have low af dps? Do some normal dungeons with your friends.
Are you an average dps? Do some vet dungeons with your friends.
Are you a really good dps in a trials guild? Do some trials with your friends.

Are you an average DPS with some self-heal but no friends available? Solo Banished Cells 1 and Fungal Grotto 1 on normal, alternating (due to reset cooldown).

Kill a boss, by the time you arrive at the next one you have two minutes to read the ESO forum, then kill the next boss. When finished, switch to the other dungeon. Rinse and repeat.

Nice and easy and relaxing, no crowds around stealing your kills, and lots of time to make posts here.

Samadhi · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

At 3 minutes between drops, then in perfect runs each character will take 300 minutes of farming to get the achievement for 100 skulls.
5 hours of farming per character on perfect runs.

Something as small as a two minute increase between drops adds more than 3 hours to the total farm time

With that said,
adventuring around on alts and going from delve to delve and dolmen to dolmen rather than farming has a pleasant bonus now

prolly just going to get the achievement on one character

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Samadhi wrote: »

At 3 minutes between drops, then in perfect runs each character will take 300 minutes of farming to get the achievement for 100 skulls.
5 hours of farming per character on perfect runs.

Something as small as a two minute increase between drops adds more than 3 hours to the total farm time

With that said,
adventuring around on alts and going from delve to delve and dolmen to dolmen rather than farming has a pleasant bonus now

prolly just going to get the achievement on one character

5 hours seems reasonable to me. Ten hours seems reasonable, too. Shrug.

xSkullfox · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Standing afk in the pub dungeon and alt tab to Atom/Editor and code, when the timer 3min up i switch back and kill a boss and alt tab back.

Samadhi · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

lordrichter wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

At 3 minutes between drops, then in perfect runs each character will take 300 minutes of farming to get the achievement for 100 skulls.
5 hours of farming per character on perfect runs.

Something as small as a two minute increase between drops adds more than 3 hours to the total farm time

With that said,
adventuring around on alts and going from delve to delve and dolmen to dolmen rather than farming has a pleasant bonus now

prolly just going to get the achievement on one character

5 hours seems reasonable to me. Ten hours seems reasonable, too. Shrug.

25 more skulls to buy my new cottage,
then get to go back to just playing the game and enjoying the exp buff and bonus prizes on my alts
QQ

baratron · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

We waited 3 minutes between bosses in Veteran Darkshade Caverns II and Veteran Imperial City Prison, and I still got the speed run Achievements on my alt. It really isn't an unreasonable amount of time.

Enslaved · October 2017

2 minutes would be better option for all

baratron wrote: »

We waited 3 minutes between bosses in Veteran Darkshade Caverns II and Veteran Imperial City Prison, and I still got the speed run Achievements on my alt. It really isn't an unreasonable amount of time.

I see many ppl are ok with 3 minute timers. But let me ask you one thing. How many alts would be possible to get this achievement on during the festivities if you have to wait 3 minutes between each boss fight? They made a fun festival into an absolute chore.

Pink_E_808 · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

I've been running between two bosses in Crow's Wood, the timing is fine, especially if no one else comes along for a little while. I've been getting about 2 skulls every 10 minutes and use the Crow Swarm memento to time the cool down. Sometimes someone else comes along before it's ready, but the bosses are close enough, I just help out and go back to the other one.

Elsonso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Pink_E_808 wrote: »

I've been running between two bosses in Crow's Wood, the timing is fine, especially if no one else comes along for a little while. I've been getting about 2 skulls every 10 minutes and use the Crow Swarm memento to time the cool down. Sometimes someone else comes along before it's ready, but the bosses are close enough, I just help out and go back to the other one.

Which two?

ganzaeso · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

We had this discussion last year about there not having a timer on plunder skulls. We should be happy the DEVs did not stick us with a longer timer.

starkerealm · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Enslaved wrote: »

baratron wrote: »

We waited 3 minutes between bosses in Veteran Darkshade Caverns II and Veteran Imperial City Prison, and I still got the speed run Achievements on my alt. It really isn't an unreasonable amount of time.

I see many ppl are ok with 3 minute timers. But let me ask you one thing. How many alts would be possible to get this achievement on during the festivities if you have to wait 3 minutes between each boss fight? They made a fun festival into an absolute chore.

All of them. I remember my significant other clearing the title in less than a day on one of her alts last year, using the Auridon Dolmen Train. Took about six hours, as I recall. With the event going for 10 days, that's more than enough time to get Sun's Dusk Reaper on every character.

TheRealPotoroo · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

starkerealm wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

baratron wrote: »

We waited 3 minutes between bosses in Veteran Darkshade Caverns II and Veteran Imperial City Prison, and I still got the speed run Achievements on my alt. It really isn't an unreasonable amount of time.

I see many ppl are ok with 3 minute timers. But let me ask you one thing. How many alts would be possible to get this achievement on during the festivities if you have to wait 3 minutes between each boss fight? They made a fun festival into an absolute chore.

All of them. I remember my significant other clearing the title in less than a day on one of her alts last year, using the Auridon Dolmen Train. Took about six hours, as I recall. With the event going for 10 days, that's more than enough time to get Sun's Dusk Reaper on every character.

Who can play six hours a day every day? I've been doing PDs and not getting 100% plunder skulls even when not rushing because of this ridiculous timer.

max_only · October 2017

3 minutes is not enough, it should be 5+

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

I'm trying to figure this out. Presumably, the only reason to get all the witches festival achieves is to be able to buy the house. Said house ownership carries over between toons; even the runebox costumes carry over between toons; so what's the point of finishing all the witches achieves on multiple alts?

The title is per character. So there’s that.

...

Also, I voted for the wrong thing.

PurpleDrank · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

theher0not wrote: »

Remove the timer for different bosses. But keep it 3 mins before getting loot from the same boss.

I could handle this. I've been doing the event by pugging dungeons, so I only get one per boss if the group isn't doing so well dps wise. Would be nice to get one per boss even if the group is working well.

Pink_E_808 · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

lordrichter wrote: »

Which two?

The Midnight Maiden and Beron (sp?) I've had some people catch on to how I farm them and they'll join me and wait for my signal that the timer had finished (I stop playing my lute). I had five people running with me at one point earlier, lol. It was fun.

Minyassa · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Not everyone has a week. Some people cannot stay up late at night to play on weekdays, or have other similar strictures on their playtime. Some people are fitting playtime in with a full-time job or two, plus taking care of children and a household and it's a miracle if they can grab an hour a couple of times a week, IF that. So putting a timer on things pretty much cuts out the people who still bothered to become ZOS customers for this game by purchasing it in the first place, and that's just kind of unncessary.

randomkeyhits · October 2017

3 minutes is just fine, just play the game

Went into a public dungeon, found two bosses nicely close to each other.

Popped one, rebuilt ulti on nearby adds, wait for 3 minute timer to expire pop the other, rinse, repeat.

Only prob is if someone else came through that dungeon blatting everything in their path. If they didn't stay then get back on timer sync otherwise move to another two boss spot in the hope they'd move on too, usually worked.

For a low level alt, put dots and finisher type moves in bar, join Alik'r merry go round until inven is full. Equip highest gear, sell rest, spend skill points to make powers stronger.Aim to get drops from boss every time and plunder when off timer. Clipping actually helps a lot in achieving that. When I hit level 50 will switch in another alt to level if I feel like it.

At no time have I felt any stress at all over getting the events achievements so I'd say everything is pretty much spot on.

To be honest, at times I despair of the Crown Store greed but the events I find fun and generous and much more positive an experience. Bipolar ZOS....

zaria · October 2017

just remove timers completely and let us get plunder skull for each boss kill

Don't see the point really, yes you can farm 50% faster in an small public dungeon without it. However it generate grief if two bosses are close you wait then some other come and attack the second boss while you waited.
Bosses has an re spawn time anyway, granted this is a bit faster but not significantly