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Need help reaching 25k DPS

crowqueen
crowqueen
I have been reading a lot of ESO-related site on how to build my Champion Breton MagiSorc. She is good enough to play in veteran dungeons and I recently scored 6.3k on the DPS skeleton. I was told to hold on to sets like: spinner, nercopotence, worm cult, julianos. I know I have to reset champion points eventually. Any tips are welcome.
PSN ID: Crow-queen
My Champions
DC - Breton Magi Sorc
AD - Khajiit Stam Nightblade
EP - Nord Templar Tank
EP - Argonian Magi Templar
AD - High Elf Magi Warden
  • Vapirko
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    Okay so I’m not even a magicka player but I can tell you that spamming one skills should put you at that dps or possibly more. So clearly you need to start from the beginning. I’d reallt suggest looking at some of the popular theory crafters out there like alcasthq.com which I usually direct people to because he has both written and video explanations of gear, food, cp and rotation which is so important. Plus he offers several gearing options and cp distribution for people with low cp. Best of luck. It’s a lot to explain so it’s best if you go ahead and read someone who has already written it. 6.3k to be honest is not enough for vet dungeons, it’s likely that someone else carries you through. Without BiS gear and a half decent roation 25k dps should be no problem on the target skeleton should be no issue.
  • Tasear
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    If possible record a video of you parsing on a test dummy and post here.
  • SoLooney
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    well, you are not a high elf master race, so youre missing max magicka, magicka recovery, and shock, frost and damage.

    get good gear, good rotation, gold weapons, purple armor and jewelry, maelstrom weapons. spell power potions, max alchemy
  • Destruent
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    SoLooney wrote: »
    well, you are not a high elf master race, so youre missing max magicka, magicka recovery, and shock, frost and damage.

    get good gear, good rotation, gold weapons, purple armor and jewelry, maelstrom weapons. spell power potions, max alchemy

    He only misses the elemental dmg, breton has the same max magicka and cost reduction instead of regen.

    What are you currently using, crowqueen?
    Noobplar
  • crowqueen
    crowqueen
    Destruent wrote: »
    She only misses the elemental dmg, breton has the same max magicka and cost reduction instead of regen.

    What are you currently using, crowqueen?

    Julianos in purple and Aether strategy...in blue...

    PSN ID: Crow-queen
    My Champions
    DC - Breton Magi Sorc
    AD - Khajiit Stam Nightblade
    EP - Nord Templar Tank
    EP - Argonian Magi Templar
    AD - High Elf Magi Warden
  • Tasear
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    crowqueen wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    She only misses the elemental dmg, breton has the same max magicka and cost reduction instead of regen.

    What are you currently using, crowqueen?

    Julianos in purple and Aether strategy...in blue...

    Why are you using aether strategy? This is probably part of the issue.

    P.S You could also forget dps and become a healer instead ;)
  • crowqueen
    crowqueen
    Great....GREAT! Everything I read is a lie...
    PSN ID: Crow-queen
    My Champions
    DC - Breton Magi Sorc
    AD - Khajiit Stam Nightblade
    EP - Nord Templar Tank
    EP - Argonian Magi Templar
    AD - High Elf Magi Warden
  • Berenhir
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    alcasthq.com has some good stuff to get you started
    https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-pet-build-pve/
    PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -
  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    crowqueen wrote: »
    I have been reading a lot of ESO-related site on how to build my Champion Breton MagiSorc. She is good enough to play in veteran dungeons and I recently scored 6.3k on the DPS skeleton. I was told to hold on to sets like: spinner, nercopotence, worm cult, julianos. I know I have to reset champion points eventually. Any tips are welcome.

    Haha, nice troll post :smile:

    With necro and two pets, inner light and doing only heavy attacks, you should have about 15k dps minimum... add LIquid lightning, force pulse every now and then, Wall of elements and any damage ult - should give you easy 22-25k...
    PC/EU 800 CP.
    PvP MagSorc.
    Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
    Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
    Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
    Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq
  • crowqueen
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    [quote="Valera Progib;c-4567743
    With necro and two pets, inner light and doing only heavy attacks, you should have about 15k dps minimum... add LIquid lightning, force pulse every now and then, Wall of elements and any damage ult - should give you easy 22-25k... [/quote]

    I thought have pets showed you are weak?! I still have them though, clanfear and healing twilight.
    Edited by crowqueen on October 14, 2017 8:56PM
    PSN ID: Crow-queen
    My Champions
    DC - Breton Magi Sorc
    AD - Khajiit Stam Nightblade
    EP - Nord Templar Tank
    EP - Argonian Magi Templar
    AD - High Elf Magi Warden
  • Haquor
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    That build from alcast site linked above will get you 25k.

    Set your cp the same

    Set your gear the same

    Set your skills the same

    And perform the rotation as he describes. Even without light attack weaving if you keep your pet pulsing, elemental blockade and liquid lightning running, habe curse on the target and do one heavy attack and repeat you will be fine.
  • eso_nya
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    To get to:
    20k u need: a good rota, buffood, attributes in max mag, nice and easy to get sets in blue or purple quality (trait of MtWhateverest), jewel encs: spelldmg, cp spend somewhere to get the statboosts, passives

    25k u need additionally: a well played rota, better gear (purp body parts w/ some good traits, blue jewelery, golden mainhand), some finetuning on sets used and cp allocated

    30k: very good rota (not meaning different skills, but becoming better w/ uptimes, anicancel and so on), spellpower potions, finetuned gear <-> cp <-> skills

    35k+: perfected rotation (lotsa practise on how to efficiently kill the targetdummy), golden gear w/ perfect traits of <insert fotm here>, perfect racials, perfected max cp loadout.

    50k+: an effin awesome healer+tank combo who turn you into a demigod.

    Below 20k its just u and your rota. Swapping gear and maxing out cp wont do [snip] for you. A meta-build wont help u if u dont understand or cant execute it.

    Regarding sets and magsorc:
    Prolly easiest setup to get going is Julianos (crafted), Mothers Sorrow (drops in deshaan) and the Lovermundus. Alterntivly Julianos + Spinner (malabal tor) + Thief give u roughly the same boni. Any set, that does anything for the skills u r using will improve your dmg by 14% to 18%. Differences r really small. The boost u get from wearing 5 light armorpieces enchanted with max magicka and their passives outweights the setboni by far. If you speciallise your rotation, a more specialised set nets u 1 to 4% more dps, that gets intresting when u try to squeeze out the maximum after getting into the 35k dps ranges.

    Rotation: Dot -> Dot -> ... -> Dot -> channel/filler -> repeat until execute. Put down as much dots as u can, lightattack inbetween every cast. When all dots placed either spam Forcepulse/Frags (when procced) or heavy attack with a lightningstaff until u need to refresh the dots. Important: Replacing a dot to late is better than replacing to early. Most if not all dots in eso hit harder than a direct dmg attack. If u replace to early, they do less dmg than if u had used a different skill and u use up more magicka. Starting with highest duration to lowest is easiest for most rotas.

    [Edited to remove profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on October 17, 2017 4:57PM
  • Tasear
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    eso_nya wrote: »
    To get to:
    20k u need: a good rota, buffood, attributes in max mag, nice and easy to get sets in blue or purple quality (trait of MtWhateverest), jewel encs: spelldmg, cp spend somewhere to get the statboosts, passives

    25k u need additionally: a well played rota, better gear (purp body parts w/ some good traits, blue jewelery, golden mainhand), some finetuning on sets used and cp allocated

    30k: very good rota (not meaning different skills, but becoming better w/ uptimes, anicancel and so on), spellpower potions, finetuned gear <-> cp <-> skills

    35k+: perfected rotation (lotsa practise on how to efficiently kill the targetdummy), golden gear w/ perfect traits of <insert fotm here>, perfect racials, perfected max cp loadout.

    50k+: an effin awesome healer+tank combo who turn you into a demigod.

    Below 20k its just u and your rota. Swapping gear and maxing out cp wont do [snip] for you. A meta-build wont help u if u dont understand or cant execute it.

    Regarding sets and magsorc:
    Prolly easiest setup to get going is Julianos (crafted), Mothers Sorrow (drops in deshaan) and the Lovermundus. Alterntivly Julianos + Spinner (malabal tor) + Thief give u roughly the same boni. Any set, that does anything for the skills u r using will improve your dmg by 14% to 18%. Differences r really small. The boost u get from wearing 5 light armorpieces enchanted with max magicka and their passives outweights the setboni by far. If you speciallise your rotation, a more specialised set nets u 1 to 4% more dps, that gets intresting when u try to squeeze out the maximum after getting into the 35k dps ranges.

    Rotation: Dot -> Dot -> ... -> Dot -> channel/filler -> repeat until execute. Put down as much dots as u can, lightattack inbetween every cast. When all dots placed either spam Forcepulse/Frags (when procced) or heavy attack with a lightningstaff until u need to refresh the dots. Important: Replacing a dot to late is better than replacing to early. Most if not all dots in eso hit harder than a direct dmg attack. If u replace to early, they do less dmg than if u had used a different skill and u use up more magicka. Starting with highest duration to lowest is easiest for most rotas.

    Best dps guide xD but you need one for 40k+ people. Also 50k dps are true gods. Had this one guy in city of ash doing 55k dps without potions, while did 50k was it or 47k dps on the other dps. I say yes when these guys want a healer xD

    Back on topic pets are strong... where have you been? They had a uprising in febuary where they became gods though mortals around 30k to 40k range now. I heard pet sorc is very easy to learn too so may I suggest that.

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    Edited by ZOS_KatP on October 17, 2017 4:58PM
  • raj72616a
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    crowqueen wrote: »
    I have been reading a lot of ESO-related site on how to build my Champion Breton MagiSorc. She is good enough to play in veteran dungeons and I recently scored 6.3k on the DPS skeleton. I was told to hold on to sets like: spinner, nercopotence, worm cult, julianos. I know I have to reset champion points eventually. Any tips are welcome.

    Haha, nice troll post :smile:

    With necro and two pets, inner light and doing only heavy attacks, you should have about 15k dps minimum... add LIquid lightning, force pulse every now and then, Wall of elements and any damage ult - should give you easy 22-25k...

    i have necropotence, ia, elegance, etc.
    tried various setup on my breton magsorc, and not even 20k was easy for me.

    don't underestimate what inability to maintain a rotation would cause!
  • crowqueen
    crowqueen
    i'll try... i've lost my sense of optimism...but i'll try
    PSN ID: Crow-queen
    My Champions
    DC - Breton Magi Sorc
    AD - Khajiit Stam Nightblade
    EP - Nord Templar Tank
    EP - Argonian Magi Templar
    AD - High Elf Magi Warden
  • dpencil1
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    @crowqueen
    I know it can feel pretty overwhelming hearing so much advice from experienced end-game players. Most of us have posted this sort of advice on other similar threads many times, and without very specific information about your personal build and gameplay, people will default to just giving general advice.

    The truth is, if you are level 50 and have CP above 160, the fact that you are doing only about 6k dps shows that there is a lot in your build and playstyle that is lacking. I know it sucks to hear that, but you recognized that you needed help, which is the first step towards progress! :)

    Since ESO gameplay has changed quite a bit over the last year, lots of info on the Web is outdated. Sites like AlcastHQ, FextraLife, and UESP are run by prominent players who are still very active and keep their sites up to date. And obviously, the forums will have people like us providing relevant info.

    So basically, you have two ways to get advice. You can decide to simply scrap whatever you are currently doing and copy another build, or you could give us details about your build to try to get advice more tailored to your specific situation. If you want to try the first, go to Alcast's site and just copy one of his magicka Sorc builds created for the Horns of the Reach patch. If you want to try the second, post answers to the following questions (I will fill these in with "standard" values, so just replace whatever is different in your build...or just use this setup as a goal)
    Race: Altmer (High Elf)
    Level: 50
    Attribute point allocation: 64 in Magicka
    Total CP: 660
    CP allocation in the Blue tree: 75 Thaumaturge, 49 Ele Expert, 46 Spell Erosion, 40 Elfborn, 10 MaA
    Mundus Stone: Lover or Apprentice
    Active Food: Blue max Health/Magicka food
    Potions: Spell Power, Spell Crit, Magicka, or none (depending on if you prefer using consumables or not)
    Gear Quality: All Gold, or All Purple except Gold weapons
    Enchants: Max Magicka on armor, Spell Damage on jewelry, Shock on front staff, Flame on back staff
    Armor: Assuming no monster sets or trials gear, Necropotence + Julianos (using pets), Julianos + Spinner's (no pets, reallocate some points out of Spell Erosion if using Spinner's), 5 pieces light armor, 1 medium, 1 heavy (with Undaunted Mettle passive)
    Weapons: Both Lighting staves, Julianos would be easiest to get (craft them, or get someone to craft them for you)
    Armor and Weapon traits: Divines on armor, Infused on weapons (Infused on chest, legs, head is fine too, and Sharpened or Precise are also good choices for weapons)
    Skill bars:
    1: Endless Fury, Inner Light, Volatile Familiar, Twilight Matriarch, Empowered Ward, Thunderous Rage
    2. Liquid Lightning, Blockade of Storms, Volatile Familiar, Twilight Matriarch, Daedric Prey, Energy Overload
    Overload Bar: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Volatile Familiar, Twilight Matriarch, Empowered Ward
    (These bars allow you do well without using potions)
    Rotation: (LA, HA = light/heavy attack)
    Activate Overload
    Power Surge, Boundless Storm
    Deactivate Overload
    [LA, Liquid Lightning, LA, Blockade of Storms, LA, Volatile Familiar, LA, Daedric Prey
    Bar Swap
    HA, HA]
    Repeat bracketed section 3 times, then reapply buffs from Overload bar.
    When enemy is at 20% health: LA, Endless Fury until dead (you can also try to keep your other damage over time skills up if the enemy has a lot of health even at 20%)
    Use the Destro Ult at the start of boss fights, after buffing from the Overload bar, and always go rebuff on the Overload Bar just before using the Destro Ult in the middle of combat.
    If you don't have access to the Destro Ult yet, swap out Endless Fury for Elemental Drain and apply that to bosses at the start of th fight and every 2nd rotation. You need at least 1 destro skill on each bar.
    Edited by dpencil1 on October 15, 2017 2:51PM
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