How are these characters?

Lyserus · October 2017

So I made 10 characters with 1 race each and 2 for each class:

Cuhlecain the Great: Imperial Templar
Leki of Yokudan: Redguard Dragonknight
Gortwog gro-Igron: Orc Nightblade
Huna of Ada-Mantia: Breton Sorcerer
Torinaan Direnni: Altmer Sorcerer
Willow Camoran: Bosmer Warden
Secunda Night-Mane: Khajiit Nightblade
Yngol of Atmora: Nord Warden
Aspera Dagoth: Dunmer Dragonknight
Hatched-From-Hist: Argonian Templar

I know some of them might not be the "best choice" but however is there any that has really weak combination that will effect the vet game play?

Morgul667 · October 2017

Class/race combination are mainly important for end game and is linked to the role you want to play

Are they DPS or Tank or Healers ?

static_recharge · October 2017

Not really enough to go on. Are they intended to be DPS? Healers? Tanks? Also Stamina or Magicka? I know it might seem obvious, but I don't like assuming things.

Lyserus · October 2017

Morgul667 wrote: »

Class/race combination are mainly important for end game and is linked to the role you want to play

Are they DPS or Tank or Healers ?

static_recharge wrote: »

Not really enough to go on. Are they intended to be DPS? Healers? Tanks? Also Stamina or Magicka? I know it might seem obvious, but I don't like assuming things.

Honestly I'd hope to have 1 tank, 1 dps and 1 healer in each faction (Exclude imperial)

However tank is only useful in pve (which does not have faction restriction) and in pvp I don't like playing them that much

So I will settle with 1 dps, 1 healer and 1 tank/tankish dps

static_recharge · October 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Class/race combination are mainly important for end game and is linked to the role you want to play

Are they DPS or Tank or Healers ?

static_recharge wrote: »

Not really enough to go on. Are they intended to be DPS? Healers? Tanks? Also Stamina or Magicka? I know it might seem obvious, but I don't like assuming things.

Honestly I'd hope to have 1 tank, 1 dps and 1 healer in each faction (Exclude imperial)

However tank is only useful in pve (which does not have faction restriction) and in pvp I don't like playing them that much

So I will settle with 1 dps, 1 healer and 1 tank/tankish dps

Ok. To clarify the original question, what do you intend each one to be specifically? For example your Orc Nightblade could be a really great choice if you intend to tank with them or a slightly less optimal choice if you intend to DPS with them. So to answer your question about which one (s) are "weak" combinations we need to know your intent for each one.

geonsocal · October 2017

which one is your stam sorc - breton or altmer?

Lyserus · October 2017

static_recharge wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Class/race combination are mainly important for end game and is linked to the role you want to play

Are they DPS or Tank or Healers ?

static_recharge wrote: »

Not really enough to go on. Are they intended to be DPS? Healers? Tanks? Also Stamina or Magicka? I know it might seem obvious, but I don't like assuming things.

Honestly I'd hope to have 1 tank, 1 dps and 1 healer in each faction (Exclude imperial)

However tank is only useful in pve (which does not have faction restriction) and in pvp I don't like playing them that much

So I will settle with 1 dps, 1 healer and 1 tank/tankish dps

Ok. To clarify the original question, what do you intend each one to be specifically? For example your Orc Nightblade could be a really great choice if you intend to tank with them or a slightly less optimal choice if you intend to DPS with them. So to answer your question about which one (s) are "weak" combinations we need to know your intent for each one.

can you tell me the best combination with the roles on each faction?

lagrue · October 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

So I made 10 characters with 1 race each and 2 for each class:
I know some of them might not be the "best choice" but however is there any that has really weak combination that will effect the vet game play?

Race doesn't mean much until late endgame, and even then it isn't a huge factor. Just at a quick glance, all those races are actually in good synch with their respective classes. The only that may suffer is Imperial, and that's mainly because Imperial is probably the worst race - but even then, an Imperial Templar will do just fine.

The key here is to play to your strengths now. Example I can best put is the Dunmer Dragonknight - you're probably going to want to go the Fire Mage route with that, versus something like a health tank.

All in all they're good though, names a pretty decent too

Best things to do with them ideally (imo):

Imperial Templar: Try for a more offensive Stamplar.

Redguard Dragonknight: Tank this badboy out and focus all skills in Stamina.

Orc Nightblade: Maybe a dagger wielder - the only thing bad here is the Orc passive for heavy, but a piece or two of heavy on Stamblade can't hurt.

Breton Sorc: Make a Shield Stack Sorc build, Magicka - hands down gonna do you well.

Altmer Sorc: Mine is Lightning and Pet build, some 40k+ Magicka and a heavy DPS

Bosmer Warden: Stam Warden, probably mostly Pets and Nature

Khajit Nightblade: Bows/Daggers - High Crit Stamina Build

Nord Warden: Probably the same as your Bosmer to be honest, maybe more emphasis on Ice abilities for defense/tanking since Nord comes with base health passives.

Dunmer DK: Fire Mage all the way, I went Destro and Fire, high mag. crit - but there may be better builds out there.

Argonion Templar: Heal, heal, heal

static_recharge · October 2017

I'll give it a go. If anybody else has any suggestions for improvements then please say so.

Cuhlecain the Great: Imperial Templar - stamina DPS or Tank
DC
Leki of Yokudan: Redguard Dragonknight - stamina DPS
Gortwog gro-Igron: Orc Nightblade - Tank
Huna of Ada-Mantia: Breton Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for DC
AD
Torinaan Direnni: Altmer Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for AD
Willow Camoran: Bosmer Warden - Tank (only because the Khajiit Nightblade would be better stamina DPS IMO)
Secunda Night-Mane: Khajiit Nightblade - stamina DPS
EP
Yngol of Atmora: Nord Warden - Tank
Aspera Dagoth: Dunmer Dragonknight - Magicka DPS
Hatched-From-Hist: Argonian Templar - healer

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

Edit: added Tank to the good choices for the Imperial Templar.

lagrue · October 2017

static_recharge wrote: »

I'll give it a go. If anybody else has any suggestions for improvements then please say so.

Cuhlecain the Great: Imperial Templar - stamina DPS
DC
Leki of Yokudan: Redguard Dragonknight - stamina DPS
Gortwog gro-Igron: Orc Nightblade - Tank
Huna of Ada-Mantia: Breton Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for DC
AD
Torinaan Direnni: Altmer Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for AD
Willow Camoran: Bosmer Warden - Tank (only because the Khajiit Nightblade would be better stamina DPS IMO)
Secunda Night-Mane: Khajiit Nightblade - stamina DPS
EP
Yngol of Atmora: Nord Warden - Tank
Aspera Dagoth: Dunmer Dragonknight - Magicka DPS
Hatched-From-Hist: Argonian Templar - healer

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

I'm being assumptive here, but I don't think OP is held back by Faction being he owns Imperial, but maybe he still is. I know Imperial edition came with Any Race Any Alliance as well as Imperial. These are good though and mostly in line with what I posted.

Lyserus · October 2017

static_recharge wrote: »

I'll give it a go. If anybody else has any suggestions for improvements then please say so.

Cuhlecain the Great: Imperial Templar - stamina DPS
DC
Leki of Yokudan: Redguard Dragonknight - stamina DPS
Gortwog gro-Igron: Orc Nightblade - Tank
Huna of Ada-Mantia: Breton Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for DC
AD
Torinaan Direnni: Altmer Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for AD
Willow Camoran: Bosmer Warden - Tank (only because the Khajiit Nightblade would be better stamina DPS IMO)
Secunda Night-Mane: Khajiit Nightblade - stamina DPS
EP
Yngol of Atmora: Nord Warden - Tank
Aspera Dagoth: Dunmer Dragonknight - Magicka DPS
Hatched-From-Hist: Argonian Templar - healer

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you very much mate!

One thing tho, is warden bad at damage dealing? considering you put both of them in tank role...

lagrue wrote: »

I'm being assumptive here, but I don't think OP is held back by Faction being he owns Imperial, but maybe he still is. I know Imperial edition came with Any Race Any Alliance as well as Imperial. These are good though and mostly in line with what I posted.

Sadly that is not true. Any race any alliance only comes with adventurer pack which I do not have (Also due to RPG factor don't have the need)

static_recharge · October 2017

lagrue wrote: »

static_recharge wrote: »

I'll give it a go. If anybody else has any suggestions for improvements then please say so.

Cuhlecain the Great: Imperial Templar - stamina DPS
DC
Leki of Yokudan: Redguard Dragonknight - stamina DPS
Gortwog gro-Igron: Orc Nightblade - Tank
Huna of Ada-Mantia: Breton Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for DC
AD
Torinaan Direnni: Altmer Sorcerer - Magicka DPS or healer for AD
Willow Camoran: Bosmer Warden - Tank (only because the Khajiit Nightblade would be better stamina DPS IMO)
Secunda Night-Mane: Khajiit Nightblade - stamina DPS
EP
Yngol of Atmora: Nord Warden - Tank
Aspera Dagoth: Dunmer Dragonknight - Magicka DPS
Hatched-From-Hist: Argonian Templar - healer

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

I'm being assumptive here, but I don't think OP is held back by Faction being he owns Imperial, but maybe he still is. I know Imperial edition came with Any Race Any Alliance as well as Imperial. These are good though and mostly in line with what I posted.

Only the pre-order came with the adventure pack that included Any Race Any Alliance. If the OP just simply bought the Imperial edition, they would not have access to the any race thing until they got it as an account upgrade in the crown store.

lagrue · October 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

static_recharge wrote: »

Thank you very much mate!
One thing tho, is warden bad at damage dealing? considering you put both of them in tank role...

lagrue wrote: »

I'm being assumptive here, but I don't think OP is held back by Faction being he owns Imperial, but maybe he still is. I know Imperial edition came with Any Race Any Alliance as well as Imperial. These are good though and mostly in line with what I posted.

Sadly that is not true. Any race any alliance only comes with adventurer pack which I do not have (Also due to RPG factor don't have the need)

I use my Warden as an Ice/Critical damage dealer and he's mediocre, certainly not the worst damage dealer - but to be fair, their Ice Skill line is more tailored to defensive aspects, whereas Nature is healing. Your damage is mostly going to come from weapon abilities if anything. Warden is an interesting character in that, if built right, it can do fairly well in all 3 of the major roles.

And damn, well that stinks... I got Any Race Any Alliance so long ago I thought it was with the Imp Edition., but either way don't let it hold your choices back - the good thing about ESO is you can try all these things and if they don't work out, respec to try again.

static_recharge · October 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

One thing tho, is warden bad at damage dealing? considering you put both of them in tank role...

No not necessarily, but given the race you chose for both and wanting to give you a healer, Tank and DPS for each faction that is what I went with for this situation. That's also why I put that your Bosmer Warden could DPS, but again I wanted to make sure you had your tank option.

IlCanis_LupuslI · October 2017

lagrue wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

So I made 10 characters with 1 race each and 2 for each class:
I know some of them might not be the "best choice" but however is there any that has really weak combination that will effect the vet game play?

Race doesn't mean much until late endgame, and even then it isn't a huge factor. Just at a quick glance, all those races are actually in good synch with their respective classes. The only that may suffer is Imperial, and that's mainly because Imperial is probably the worst race - but even then, an Imperial Templar will do just fine.

The key here is to play to your strengths now. Example I can best put is the Dunmer Dragonknight - you're probably going to want to go the Fire Mage route with that, versus something like a health tank.

All in all they're good though, names a pretty decent too

Best things to do with them ideally (imo):
Imperial Templar: Try for a more offensive Stamplar.

Redguard Dragonknight: Tank this badboy out and focus all skills in Stamina.

Orc Nightblade: Maybe a dagger wielder - the only thing bad here is the Orc passive for heavy, but a piece or two of heavy on Stamblade can't hurt.

Breton Sorc: Make a Shield Stack Sorc build, Magicka - hands down gonna do you well.

Altmer Sorc: Mine is Lightning and Pet build, some 40k+ Magicka and a heavy DPS

Bosmer Warden: Stam Warden, probably mostly Pets and Nature

Khajit Nightblade: Bows/Daggers - High Crit Stamina Build

Nord Warden: Probably the same as your Bosmer to be honest, maybe more emphasis on Ice abilities for defense/tanking since Nord comes with base health passives.

Dunmer DK: Fire Mage all the way, I went Destro and Fire, high mag. crit - but there may be better builds out there.

Argonion Templar: Heal, heal, heal

With the Nord War den you could make a aidsbuild warden Tank witu trollking, beekeeper and orsignums scales

Lyserus · October 2017

static_recharge wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Class/race combination are mainly important for end game and is linked to the role you want to play

Are they DPS or Tank or Healers ?

static_recharge wrote: »

Not really enough to go on. Are they intended to be DPS? Healers? Tanks? Also Stamina or Magicka? I know it might seem obvious, but I don't like assuming things.

Honestly I'd hope to have 1 tank, 1 dps and 1 healer in each faction (Exclude imperial)

However tank is only useful in pve (which does not have faction restriction) and in pvp I don't like playing them that much

So I will settle with 1 dps, 1 healer and 1 tank/tankish dps

Ok. To clarify the original question, what do you intend each one to be specifically? For example your Orc Nightblade could be a really great choice if you intend to tank with them or a slightly less optimal choice if you intend to DPS with them. So to answer your question about which one (s) are "weak" combinations we need to know your intent for each one.

lagrue wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

So I made 10 characters with 1 race each and 2 for each class:
I know some of them might not be the "best choice" but however is there any that has really weak combination that will effect the vet game play?

Race doesn't mean much until late endgame, and even then it isn't a huge factor. Just at a quick glance, all those races are actually in good synch with their respective classes. The only that may suffer is Imperial, and that's mainly because Imperial is probably the worst race - but even then, an Imperial Templar will do just fine.

The key here is to play to your strengths now. Example I can best put is the Dunmer Dragonknight - you're probably going to want to go the Fire Mage route with that, versus something like a health tank.

All in all they're good though, names a pretty decent too

Best things to do with them ideally (imo):
Imperial Templar: Try for a more offensive Stamplar.

Redguard Dragonknight: Tank this badboy out and focus all skills in Stamina.

Orc Nightblade: Maybe a dagger wielder - the only thing bad here is the Orc passive for heavy, but a piece or two of heavy on Stamblade can't hurt.

Breton Sorc: Make a Shield Stack Sorc build, Magicka - hands down gonna do you well.

Altmer Sorc: Mine is Lightning and Pet build, some 40k+ Magicka and a heavy DPS

Bosmer Warden: Stam Warden, probably mostly Pets and Nature

Khajit Nightblade: Bows/Daggers - High Crit Stamina Build

Nord Warden: Probably the same as your Bosmer to be honest, maybe more emphasis on Ice abilities for defense/tanking since Nord comes with base health passives.

Dunmer DK: Fire Mage all the way, I went Destro and Fire, high mag. crit - but there may be better builds out there.

Argonion Templar: Heal, heal, heal

Heyyy I'm back for more questions.

Say let's not care about alliance, I just want characters with same class can have different roles (tank/stan dps/mag dps/heal) so I can play them differently..what will it be?

This is what I am thinking:
Templar: Imperial for stam dps, Argonian for healer (tho honestly my main imp might become anything depends on my mood)
Dragonknight: Redguard for tank, Dunmer for mag dps
Nightblade: Orc for stam dps, Khajiit for mag dps
Sorcerer: Breton for healer, Altmer for mag tank
Warden: Nord for tank, bosmer for stam healer

This actually give tank dps and healer to each alliance as well

However, can you guys tell me how good is NB orc tank, Sorc altemer tank and Warden bosmer healer?
Do they provide unique way of playing and not suck?

newtinmpls · October 2017

Hey @Lyserus

I noticed one in particular:

Torinaan Direnni: Altmer Sorcerer (AD).

Nice to run into a cousin! I have a couple of Direnni folks.

Vos Olquar Direnni, originally an accountant (sort of his first love), shocked by being betrayed by Mannimarco (I mean, really how could an Altmer betray an Altmer?!?) and now having befriended a Khajiit (a beast-mer - well, actually he's quite insightful). Older, calm, still bemused by this "new" world, and now has a pet Vvardvark named flower (he fed her, she followed him).

Nynwil Direnni, my first magWarden, young, confident, slightly cynical. Married and survived Cold Harbor Back to back with her beloved, and no one and nothing is going to part them now.

For some reason, both of them have red-tinged hair, and golden (reddish golden) eyes. So for the moment for my head-cannon, that's a sorta familial thing.

Lyserus · October 2017

newtinmpls wrote: »

Hey @Lyserus

I noticed one in particular:

Torinaan Direnni: Altmer Sorcerer (AD).

Nice to run into a cousin! I have a couple of Direnni folks.

Vos Olquar Direnni, originally an accountant (sort of his first love), shocked by being betrayed by Mannimarco (I mean, really how could an Altmer betray an Altmer?!?) and now having befriended a Khajiit (a beast-mer - well, actually he's quite insightful). Older, calm, still bemused by this "new" world, and now has a pet Vvardvark named flower (he fed her, she followed him).

Nynwil Direnni, my first magWarden, young, confident, slightly cynical. Married and survived Cold Harbor Back to back with her beloved, and no one and nothing is going to part them now.

For some reason, both of them have red-tinged hair, and golden (reddish golden) eyes. So for the moment for my head-cannon, that's a sorta familial thing.

Torinaan has silver hair and silver-ish eyes, guess they are from different branches

He is still young by elven standard, but he is full of energy and left the tower to discover knowledge and hidden secrets.
Love anything about dwemer too.

Tho he is following AD at the moment, but his real loyalty lies with Cuhlecain the Great, head of "10 companions", working for the goal of re-uniting Tamriel and repel daedra forces (Tho Torinaan himself doesn't mind using daeric power)

newtinmpls · October 2017

Lyserus wrote: »

Torinaan has silver hair and silver-ish eyes, guess they are from different branches

He is still young by elven standard, but he is full of energy and left the tower to discover knowledge and hidden secrets.
Love anything about dwemer too.

Tho he is following AD at the moment, but his real loyalty lies with Cuhlecain the Great, head of "10 companions", working for the goal of re-uniting Tamriel and repel daedra forces (Tho Torinaan himself doesn't mind using daeric power)

Interesting, description-wise he would sound like one of the Caemaire men my husband rolls up. Most of them are silver-haired and blue/grey eyes.

From your description I'm suspecting he might be a PVP warrior?