ShadowHvo wrote: »

With Destiny being an absolute scam of an MMO, I don't think so. I'm definitely sticking to ESO.

At least Zenimax actually cares about their game, in comparison to Bungie who just re-released their first game with a better storyline, and removed all of your progress in the same swoop too.

ANY MMO that decides to remove all of your progress without actually redefining the entire game as of whole, does not deserve my money. To me, an MMO is persistence, a world which I can return to time after time again to explore, experience and enjoy with the character that I develop over time.

Bungie has proven time after time again that they do not care about their playerbase, but only that sugarsweet buck they can take from them. if you're looking for a good sci-fi MMO shooter game, then I'll recommend you to play Warframe instead, at least that game is far superior to Destiny in every single way, except for raids.. Plus its free.

Ahhhhhh cares? Wait, you serious? Ehehehehehehehe.

If they cared, they woulda fixed the horrible optimization right now. Specially in PVP. Still id choose ESO over Destiny any day but....hehehehehe.

All things seen from Zenimax's practices is that they are putting most of the funds, particularly from the whales, into Fallout Online :P Course thats a joke though, they are using it for something, and it aint ESO.

Kek.

ShadowHvo wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

ShadowHvo wrote: »

With Destiny being an absolute scam of an MMO, I don't think so. I'm definitely sticking to ESO.

At least Zenimax actually cares about their game, in comparison to Bungie who just re-released their first game with a better storyline, and removed all of your progress in the same swoop too.

ANY MMO that decides to remove all of your progress without actually redefining the entire game as of whole, does not deserve my money. To me, an MMO is persistence, a world which I can return to time after time again to explore, experience and enjoy with the character that I develop over time.

Bungie has proven time after time again that they do not care about their playerbase, but only that sugarsweet buck they can take from them. if you're looking for a good sci-fi MMO shooter game, then I'll recommend you to play Warframe instead, at least that game is far superior to Destiny in every single way, except for raids.. Plus its free.

Ahhhhhh cares? Wait, you serious? Ehehehehehehehe.

If they cared, they woulda fixed the horrible optimization right now. Specially in PVP. Still id choose ESO over Destiny any day but....hehehehehe.

All things seen from Zenimax's practices is that they are putting most of the funds, particularly from the whales, into Fallout Online :P Course thats a joke though, they are using it for something, and it aint ESO.

Kek.

Yes, I am 100% serious. They do change things according to our feedback, especially when it comes to ability changes, and have done so a whole ton of times. They add value to our purchases with DLC's at large, and have kept the Crown Store off the pay-to-win chart.

Sure, I too may be annoyed over the crown crate (And those three pesky rare non-gem-purchaseable-mounts, but if there is one thing the Devs have proved to us since the launch of the game, then its that they care about their game, and they care about us.

About your complaining about optimization. I'll suggest you take a few beginners courses involving Game Coding, then you may get an idea of how difficult it is, and how many unseen things can suddenly change because of a single digit change.

So yes, I am serious, and I for one believe in Zenimax Online to keep making ESO an even better game as the years go by.

Changes....according to our feedback? ehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.

Thats not what 90 percent of all the complainers on the forums are saying.

Also....I suggest you take a few courses in research and comparison. Its not difficult for Square Enix, look at FFXIV and DQX, not difficult for the guys behind Black Desert, seen Korean mmos far better optimized than this......... look at WoW too while your at it.....

Just to be clear.....you are trying to argue with a guy who has played mmos for over 19 years now....and seen it all.....thats like you on a Pedestal with nothing but the abyss around you while 10 godly gigantic beings surrounding you is telling you how very, very, sinful and mistaken you so are.......but please continue on.....and....

Let me help you.......

*Takes some black paint, and slowly starts brushing your white shiny armor*

kek.

ShadowHvo wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Changes....according to our feedback? ehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.

Thats not what 90 percent of all the complainers on the forums are saying.

Also....I suggest you take a few courses in research and comparison. Its not difficult for Square Enix, look at FFXIV and DQX, not difficult for the guys behind Black Desert, seen Korean mmos far better optimized than this......... look at WoW too while your at it.....

Just to be clear.....you are trying to argue with a guy who has played mmos for over 19 years now....and seen it all.....thats like you on a Pedestal with nothing but the abyss around you while 10 godly gigantic beings surrounding you is telling you how very, very, sinful and mistaken you so are.......but please continue on.....and....

Let me help you.......

*Takes some black paint, and slowly starts brushing your white shiny armor*

kek.

A few courses in research and comparison? From what I hear from the players of FFXIV, they have plentiful to complain about to (And yes, I have a couple of friends who main that game.) I personally do not play it, so I cannot judge it with experience. But since you brought research into the mix...

All from the FFXIV forums
- Death of pvp
- Regarding RDM being able to heal in PvP
- Okay, its a two way communication time
- Yea, I'm Done

By the looks of it, people complain about the game that they love to play, on their forum too.

... just exactly as here on the ESO forums.

You can try to argue your knowledge with age as much as you want to, but if there is one thing that the real world has taught me, then its that knowledge comes through experience, and not age. If you yourself step into the Black Desert Forums, the WoW Forums, the FFXIV forums, DCU forums, Guild Wars 2 forums (Or whatever DQX is) and any other forum for any MMO out there, you will see a bunch of forum complaints about why, their passionate fanbase, do not believe certain aspects of the game is working as it should.

The reason why many developers turn a blind eye to many people on forums at large, is because of the lack of constructive critism. Nobody will ever take you serious, nor actually listen to your complaint if you start out with "ehehehehehehe" or "you're ***" or any other combination of words to ridcule their effort to create a great game.

To I, and many others who offer the developers construtive critism where needed, actually find our voices listened to in a great deal of places. Be it in balancing, lore-related subjects or other such changes.

Now, I hope (and sincerely trust) that we can have a civile debate without your attempts to post silly flexing messages and borderling strange comparisons, for as you quite clearly can see, this armor is not white, or shiney.

Otherwise, this will be my last replay for you, Alexandrious.

I can run XIV at 60FPS in any PVP BG with 72 players all fighting at once full special effects on a Mini Alienware PC I bought to use as a secondary Media device I picked up for 200 bucks, it was originally 480, and its only bout as powerful as a friggen Xbox one X. Actually, probably less now. And I can get off all skills without any latency or lag as well.

I could do that in WoW as well, with over a hundred players on screen at once, such as in Wintergrasp back during lich king.

BDO I got 60 fps on my main custom built computer and was able to do all my skills spite the hundreds upon hundreds of players all trying to bring down a world boss and be on the rewards list. And BDO is 5x more graphically intense than ESO. FFXIV is also better detailed.

Kid, ima be blunt, are you working for Zenimax? Cuz, your spouting b.s, only the absolute white knight could possibly ignore that the game has had little to no optimization since the release of the new lighting system, the constant casualization of content, the swinging pendulum of class balance worse than what I ever seen from even WoW, and thats an achievement right there. And its only 4 friggen classes, now 5, ffs.

Their are bugs that hasnt been fixed and been known of for several months, if not still in the game for years. They completely overlooked a fatal flaw in the combat system, aka Animation cancelling, which they should have found in Pre-Alpha, and instead of doing what would take alot of resources and man hours to fix, they embraced it, and try to pass it off as "Intended" to those who were not here in the beginning, or to suckers who don't know any better.

As for DQX, DQX is the MMORPG of the greatest RPG Franchise in Japan, yes, even greater than Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest. Its creator, Yuji Horii, is more worshiped than God in Japan. Thankfully we are getting DQXI in the west early 2018, with all its Unreal 4 Engine beauty.

Funny thing is, I am putting together a computer with up to 2600 dollars in parts, and I know that it will still get a crippling 10 fps in cyro and likely jump between 30 and 60 in trials, cuz players with near similar to power setups are getting the same thing. Only real diff is they are using onboard nics, and not a dedicated gaming shielded 180 dollar nic like I will have, but I doubt it will matter.

Ill ask again.

Are you working for Zenimax?

*Starts to prime and paint your legs into a nice shiny midnight black*

kek

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ShadowHvo wrote: »

@Alexandrious

Ironicly, I don't believe anyone truly disagress that ESO should be better optimized, (And to be frank, I even agree with you on animination cancelling) but that has never been my point at all, a point which you're now trying to drag across as mine.

And no, I do not work at or for Zenimax or any of its underlying studios. But it does not take an employee of a games studio to understand the toxicity a person like you spews out on forums like these. If you'll only change your tone and offer constructive critism instead of flexing your age or acting as a wikipedia for some Japanese games developer.

The point of which I expressed in my post, and the one that you tried to ridicule with yours, is that Zenimax Online Studious cares about their game, and that they prove this by listening to our complaints and feedback, which they have done a lot since its beta, if not alpha stages of the game.

Just because they haven't fixed that one issue that makes you the most angry, does not mean they don't care, or listen at all.

Again, if they cared about the game, they would fix the animation cancelling issue, fix the bad optimization issue, fix the bugs thats been around since the BEGINNING, and actually listen to PTS feedback, which, they dont, and been proven to, by many players who actively test on PTS, report bugs found, report whats unbalanced and what is wrong and is not fun, and then it goes ignored for up to 6 months, or longer.

Ill say it again.

Zenimax is doing what Bluehole is doing. I could explain it all, but where is the fun in that? Look into it, you're eyes will open wide when you find out.

*Starts painting your gauntlets, the black is coming out nice*

kek