Switched to PCeu from PS4 not impressed

Kammakazi · October 2017

4k gaming? ESO?

RouDeR · October 2017

Alexandrious wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

A week ago i made my new High End PC for 4k gaming and joinred ESO . First 2 Hours of playing i was having a blast from the Ultra graphics in 4k on my 65 inch TV . However after i settled down and started to pay more atention to the surroundings i noticed that the Overland zones are almost EMPTY , the population on PC eu is significantly lower than PS4 eu .
Few hours later i reached Storm Haven and asked in the Zone chat for Pve/trading or PvP guild - no answer no inv. And this was going on for 3 days in a row : me requesting for guild invitr in the zone chats of major cities untill something happened - one of the "eletists" replied to me that "this is not how its done on PC , you need to submit a forum request for a guild and than get a invite and if i dont like it i can just go back to were i belong - to console peasents."
I was like WTF whats wrong with YOU pple ?!? Fortunatly i got one pitty invite to a trading guild few mins later ...
I am extremely dissapointed of the PC EU community , also i miss my console peasants friends and in the end of the day i realised that i made a wrong choice of investing in PC because the graphics and performance are not everything that makes one game Enjoyable.

Offtopic, but im building a similar setup, thing is I want to use that 35 inch asus monitor coming out in winter with it for shooters, since t.vs specially on 4k will have some crazy input delay unless im game mode, but still enough to be bad for shooters. But yea question is, If I connect a display port cable to the new monitor, and a long hdmi to my 60 inch samsung suhd t.v which is about 10 feet away, would I have any trouble switching between the two? I just really like gaming on my t.v for things that dont require 1ms response time since I have a 700 dollar powered recliner to play from.

The input delay depends on the tv itself , also there is a Difference between response time and Input lag , the response time is the time that one pixel needs to turn on /off or change color , the input lag is the time time it takes of the hardware /periferial signal to be processed .I will tell you that on my 4k tv while playing on 2160p with V-Sync turned on (vsync adds a bit more input lag) i dont feel any issues while Aiming shooting and playing games in General. However for FPS intense games like CS go its best to play on 1440p 100hz + and Gsync enabled. About the displayport /Hdmi question u shud not have any problems when you use them separetly (u cud not use them both at same time cuz of the different RES and refresh rate) If u r curious what is my - its Samsung KS7502.

Alexandrious · October 2017

RouDeR wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

RouDeR wrote: »

A week ago i made my new High End PC for 4k gaming and joinred ESO . First 2 Hours of playing i was having a blast from the Ultra graphics in 4k on my 65 inch TV . However after i settled down and started to pay more atention to the surroundings i noticed that the Overland zones are almost EMPTY , the population on PC eu is significantly lower than PS4 eu .
Few hours later i reached Storm Haven and asked in the Zone chat for Pve/trading or PvP guild - no answer no inv. And this was going on for 3 days in a row : me requesting for guild invitr in the zone chats of major cities untill something happened - one of the "eletists" replied to me that "this is not how its done on PC , you need to submit a forum request for a guild and than get a invite and if i dont like it i can just go back to were i belong - to console peasents."
I was like WTF whats wrong with YOU pple ?!? Fortunatly i got one pitty invite to a trading guild few mins later ...
I am extremely dissapointed of the PC EU community , also i miss my console peasants friends and in the end of the day i realised that i made a wrong choice of investing in PC because the graphics and performance are not everything that makes one game Enjoyable.

Offtopic, but im building a similar setup, thing is I want to use that 35 inch asus monitor coming out in winter with it for shooters, since t.vs specially on 4k will have some crazy input delay unless im game mode, but still enough to be bad for shooters. But yea question is, If I connect a display port cable to the new monitor, and a long hdmi to my 60 inch samsung suhd t.v which is about 10 feet away, would I have any trouble switching between the two? I just really like gaming on my t.v for things that dont require 1ms response time since I have a 700 dollar powered recliner to play from.

The input delay depends on the tv itself , also there is a Difference between response time and Input lag , the response time is the time that one pixel needs to turn on /off or change color , the input lag is the time time it takes of the hardware /periferial signal to be processed .I will tell you that on my 4k tv while playing on 2160p with V-Sync turned on (vsync adds a bit more input lag) i dont feel any issues while Aiming shooting and playing games in General. However for FPS intense games like CS go its best to play on 1440p 100hz + and Gsync enabled. About the displayport /Hdmi question u shud not have any problems when you use them separetly (u cud not use them both at same time cuz of the different RES and refresh rate) If u r curious what is my - its Samsung KS7502.

Cool, I've had this dilemma on what to do, but yea it should work. Now to just find a HDMI Cable that is that long...beh may have to order it.

nnargun · October 2017

HDMI cable shouldn't be too long for 2160p at 60 Hz. I've had trouble finding one with enough bandwidth and longer than 3 meters. Ended up with rearranging my computer/tv setup so I could use a short cable.

Mijil · October 2017

This post smells like troll, 4k eso, empty overworld, being called a console peasant after a "looking for guild" in chat are all things a can´t imagine really happening.

I call BS.

lagrue · October 2017

Slick_007 wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

On pc there is more choices for a stable mmo experience. On Ps4, well zos didnt really have to try hard. You only have neverwinter or star trek online.

neverwinter also does not require psn unlike eso. so it is actually free.

Any game that has download price of "Free" is void of PS Plus - a nice caveat for smaller developers and for gamers as a whole.

Neverwinter though, like all other Free games, is a microtransaction monsterpiece - great fun to be sure - but def. favours those paying players more.

lagrue · October 2017

Mijil wrote: »

This post smells like troll, 4k eso, empty overworld, being called a console peasant after a "looking for guild" in chat are all things a can´t imagine really happening.

I call BS.

ESO is 4k though... atleast according to ZOS... even on PS4 Pro it's allegedly 4k - and not just that, it's one of the few games that's NATIVE 4k and not using the upscale mechanism on 1080p - again, all according to ZOS.

nnargun · October 2017

For sure it's playable in 2160p on PC. Why wouldn't it be? On a 65 inch screen the quality gain compared to 1080p is pretty amazing.

Linaleah · October 2017

Kammakazi wrote: »

4k gaming? ESO?

on my 4k monitor at least, it looks very VERY pretty. and I'm having no issues with framerate either (usually hover around 70fps in dungeons)

but.. I have a 4k monitor, rather then TV - decided to go with it over TV due to concerns about imput lag. nonetheless. the game looks amaaazing.

Bhaal5 · October 2017

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

On pc there is more choices for a stable mmo experience. On Ps4, well zos didnt really have to try hard. You only have neverwinter or star trek online.

Star Trek Online is quite possibly the most terrible game I've ever played.

Laughably bad.

Yep i 100% agree, why eso has no competition on ps4

Alexandrious · October 2017

nnargun wrote: »

HDMI cable shouldn't be too long for 2160p at 60 Hz. I've had trouble finding one with enough bandwidth and longer than 3 meters. Ended up with rearranging my computer/tv setup so I could use a short cable.

I can get one thats 5 meters with silver in it, I know it makes little difference on "Quality". Damn thing goes for like 190 dollars, but I get it for 25.

Kiralyn2000 · October 2017

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

On pc there is more choices for a stable mmo experience. On Ps4, well zos didnt really have to try hard. You only have neverwinter or star trek online.

Star Trek Online is quite possibly the most terrible game I've ever played.

Laughably bad.

Never tried the Playstation version, so I've no idea how that is, but I've played the PC one. If that's the most terrible game you've played, you're lucky. There are vastly worse games out there (especially in f2p MMOs).

mb10 · October 2017

Lmao PS4 is the best man

You haven't gone into PVP yet on PC. Wait until you get killed without even knowing how. Skill or a add on?
The lag, bugs and terrible attitude from the very nerdy players is all just the beginning for you.

Come home to PS4 or suffer the max cp grind

Torbschka · October 2017

Switched from ps4 EU to PC EU a few Werks ago and have a total different experience as u have started lol - more people, more oldschool RPG players / guilds (like i am ).
But I am used to forum applications guilds, since i am a former PC gamer

Mondini · October 2017

mikecrci wrote: »

The other 0.1% are Nintendo fanboys raging over Smash Brothers, which apparently is a pretty intense game.

Wow you have no idea do you. Melee is the only true fighting game.

Jade1986 · October 2017

PlagueSD wrote: »

Come try PC NA. You may have a little more lag, but at least we have people. Maybe PC gaming isn't big in Europe. Although, may still be "empty" because of time zone difference if you actually live in Europe.

The gaming community is literally double the size of the US population here, so please try again. On that note I have played on US and EU servers and I can say with 100% certainty there are far fewer trolls and passive aggressive sociopaths in the EU servers. Also, there is more than a little lag. The datacenter is located in texas in the US. And that state has one of the worst internet infrastructures in the country.

There are actually quite a few reasons the ps4 and xb1 servers are more poulated ( will be even more populated soon when they release the highly anticipated cross platform gaming for the two consoles ).

1. Less bots.
2. No cheat engine
3. No elitist addons
4. No gamebreaking addons for pvp
5. Generally a less toxic environment.

I am actually debating going to xb1 eso myself because pvp has become an add on riddled mess on pc.

Jade1986 · October 2017

Grabmoore wrote: »

You joined the wrong faction. In PC EU, pact leads in popularity imo, followed by AD ( who lead in PvP numbers). Noone likes smurfs here.

Youre kidding right? In Vivec, Sotha and Kyne EU Smurfs and Raspberries have been ganging up on AD since the dawn of time. And then when we finally give up fighting two entire faction popultions, the two pretty much have tea and scones , maybe attacking each other once per hour.

nnargun · October 2017

Alexandrious wrote: »

nnargun wrote: »

HDMI cable shouldn't be too long for 2160p at 60 Hz. I've had trouble finding one with enough bandwidth and longer than 3 meters. Ended up with rearranging my computer/tv setup so I could use a short cable.

I can get one thats 5 meters with silver in it, I know it makes little difference on "Quality". Damn thing goes for like 190 dollars, but I get it for 25.

In my experience price really doesn't matter with hdmi cables. Don't spend more than those 25 bugs. Chances are that you will have connection issues with that length and 4k @ 60Hz. No matter the marketing bs they're trying to fool you with. After like 15 cables between 10 and 200 bugs I kept one for 20.

Edit: Just saw that you're planning to use a monitor and not a tv? Then why not use display port?

nnargun · October 2017

laced wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

Come try PC NA. You may have a little more lag, but at least we have people. Maybe PC gaming isn't big in Europe. Although, may still be "empty" because of time zone difference if you actually live in Europe.

The gaming community is literally double the size of the US population here, so please try again. On that note I have played on US and EU servers and I can say with 100% certainty there are far fewer trolls and passive aggressive sociopaths in the EU servers. Also, there is more than a little lag. The datacenter is located in texas in the US. And that state has one of the worst internet infrastructures in the country.

There are actually quite a few reasons the ps4 and xb1 servers are more poulated ( will be even more populated soon when they release the highly anticipated cross platform gaming for the two consoles ).

1. Less bots.
2. No cheat engine
3. No elitist addons
4. No gamebreaking addons for pvp
5. Generally a less toxic environment.

I am actually debating going to xb1 eso myself because pvp has become an add on riddled mess on pc.

Have you played it on XBO yourself though? I cannot imagine going back to that crappy performance. It's nice to know that everybody is playing with equal chances, yes. But if most endgame content is literally not playable then that's not worth it. I quit XBO just before Morrowind so maybe things have changed. But I doubt it.