Dear Zos Fix Your Game

chill9949ub17_ESO
Dear Zos, here is a crazy idea for you. Instead of releasing new content and making the game choppier with each update, how about you fix the game you currently have in motion. The lag is so bad it makes it unbearable to play. Take care of the people that are keeping you in business. Y'all obviously don't have the server's to support the current game, so why do y'all think y'all can add more content? I am dumbfounded by the logic here. How about putting some of that money y'all make to actual use and upgrade your servers? That seems like a logical conclusion.
  • Malic
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    Youre dumbfounded at the logic.

    So they claim to have 10M accounts, and your dumbfounded as to why they would continue to proceed as per normal? Are you trolling or do you really not get it?

    Why would they do anything differently if millions of people log in, play, and pay to play? Im dumbfounded by you being dumbfounded.
    Edited by Malic on October 6, 2017 2:46AM
  • Left4Daud
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    Re-working and fixing the game doesn't bring in the money, content and cosmetics do. They have no real incentive to fix the game when nearly everyone that moans about stability still goes crazy every time there is a crown sale.

    To give them credit, they do bring in a slew of quality of life changes with big updates which is definitely appreciated. However some of these changes should have been in the game years ago but better late than never I suppose.

    Personally I wouldn't mind going a year with no new content if it meant improving stability. But that would mean a year with no new zones / crown store offerings and I don't think ZOS or their targeted audience would really go for that.

    Edited by Left4Daud on October 6, 2017 2:52AM
  • Wrecking_Gorilla
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    Despite his negativity, he has a point. I’m playing on console and the lag is so bad, I can’t bar swap and weaving is hard to do at all. Even going through delves and questing is such a pain. I can barely play this game. It’s to the point, it’s aggravating. Bar swap = lag, light attack = lag, loot mob lag, weapon loses charge = lag.....
    Edited by Wrecking_Gorilla on October 6, 2017 3:43AM
  • Shadzilla
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    Dear Zos, here is a crazy idea for you. Instead of releasing new content and making the game choppier with each update, how about you fix the game you currently have in motion. The lag is so bad it makes it unbearable to play. Take care of the people that are keeping you in business. Y'all obviously don't have the server's to support the current game, so why do y'all think y'all can add more content? I am dumbfounded by the logic here. How about putting some of that money y'all make to actual use and upgrade your servers? That seems like a logical conclusion.

    As long as those new eyelashes in the crown store come out on time I am happy.
  • Anysra
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    Shadzilla wrote: »
    Dear Zos, here is a crazy idea for you. Instead of releasing new content and making the game choppier with each update, how about you fix the game you currently have in motion. The lag is so bad it makes it unbearable to play. Take care of the people that are keeping you in business. Y'all obviously don't have the server's to support the current game, so why do y'all think y'all can add more content? I am dumbfounded by the logic here. How about putting some of that money y'all make to actual use and upgrade your servers? That seems like a logical conclusion.

    As long as those new eyelashes in the crown store come out on time I am happy.

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  • Ulfgarde
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    Malic wrote: »
    Youre dumbfounded at the logic.

    So they claim to have 10M accounts, and your dumbfounded as to why they would continue to proceed as per normal? Are you trolling or do you really not get it?

    Why would they do anything differently if millions of people log in, play, and pay to play? Im dumbfounded by you being dumbfounded.

    10 million accounts registered, meaning people who ever bought the game and set foot in it.

    We don't know the retention rate, so its super anomalous. I highly doubt this game has more than a million people playing it across platforms.

    How does this relate to OP? Well, easily the number of players means more money, which means better server performance and in game optimization.

    When you have a game as badly optimized as than this game, for 3 years, and little communication as to indicating exact popularity, then the reasons more or less kinda come to fold.
    Edited by Ulfgarde on October 6, 2017 12:40PM
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  • Skullstachio
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    & let's hope some of those "10 million players" are not bots. (Leaving it at that, forum policy's and all.)
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  • Malic
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    Ulfgarde wrote: »
    Malic wrote: »
    Youre dumbfounded at the logic.

    So they claim to have 10M accounts, and your dumbfounded as to why they would continue to proceed as per normal? Are you trolling or do you really not get it?

    Why would they do anything differently if millions of people log in, play, and pay to play? Im dumbfounded by you being dumbfounded.

    10 million accounts registered, meaning people who ever bought the game and set foot in it.

    We don't know the retention rate, so its super anomalous. I highly doubt this game has more than a million people playing it across platforms.

    How does this relate to OP? Well, easily the number of players means more money, which means better server performance and in game optimization.

    When you have a game as badly optimized as than this game, for 3 years, and little communication as to indicating exact popularity, then the reasons more or less kinda come to fold.

    Lets say its half 5 million.

    What exactly is occurring that would inspire ZOS to change their business model? Im asking genuinely because these threads pop up a lot but never seem to address this simple question.

    Ya I agree the game is poorly optimized, pvp sucks but have logged in? there are people all over the place on multiple gaming platforms.

    So youre suggesting more people = better optimization? So your logic extrapolates out to more people paying more money = better game performance. Why would they improve the game if more people pay to play without it being optimized? Its the opposite more people need TO STOP PAYING to induce better optimization.

    They have already established they wont (likely cant) improve it with more people playing.
  • br0steen
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    10 million copies purchased. Ever wonder why you don't hear about average usuage? It would sound really bad. The company's business model is geared towards the short term, not long term sustained growth, which is also why population has been decreasing.
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    @Wrecking_Gorilla maybe Xbox is a lot worse than pc, but I think that if even delves are providing you with that many issues that something is up with the way you’re connecting to the servers.
  • Betsararie
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    Malic wrote: »
    Youre dumbfounded at the logic.

    So they claim to have 10M accounts, and your dumbfounded as to why they would continue to proceed as per normal? Are you trolling or do you really not get it?

    Why would they do anything differently if millions of people log in, play, and pay to play? Im dumbfounded by you being dumbfounded.

    They don't, pls tell me what you are smokin man.... because I would very much like to have some. ;)

    Those numbers were pure marketing fluff and not representative of anything. They do not represent the number of people currently playing the game. Seriously probably 10k people play this game on PC NA, if that.

    Seriously. What are you talking about.
    Edited by Betsararie on October 7, 2017 3:14AM
  • Rygonix
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    This thread.. Oh Azura guide us!
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  • Malic
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    Blanco wrote: »
    Malic wrote: »
    Youre dumbfounded at the logic.

    So they claim to have 10M accounts, and your dumbfounded as to why they would continue to proceed as per normal? Are you trolling or do you really not get it?

    Why would they do anything differently if millions of people log in, play, and pay to play? Im dumbfounded by you being dumbfounded.

    They don't, pls tell me what you are smokin man.... because I would very much like to have some. ;)

    Those numbers were pure marketing fluff and not representative of anything. They do not represent the number of people currently playing the game. Seriously probably 10k people play this game on PC NA, if that.

    Seriously. What are you talking about.

    what am I talking about? what are you talking about "seriously probably 10K people play this game on PC NA, if that"

    Youre making *** up, now maybe ZOS is too but at least Im using their numbers.
    Edited by Malic on October 7, 2017 3:43AM
  • Malic
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    br0steen wrote: »
    10 million copies purchased. Ever wonder why you don't hear about average usuage? It would sound really bad. The company's business model is geared towards the short term, not long term sustained growth, which is also why population has been decreasing.

    Yes, thats why they keep putting out new DLC content. Because the game is in decline, so spend more on a product that, in your words is within a short term business model.

    You have no clue wtf youre talking about. This game will be here long after you stop playing it.

  • Betsararie
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    Malic wrote: »
    br0steen wrote: »
    10 million copies purchased. Ever wonder why you don't hear about average usuage? It would sound really bad. The company's business model is geared towards the short term, not long term sustained growth, which is also why population has been decreasing.

    Yes, thats why they keep putting out new DLC content. Because the game is in decline, so spend more on a product that, in your words is within a short term business model.

    You have no clue wtf youre talking about. This game will be here long after you stop playing it.

    tfw you believe millions of people play ESO when in reality it's probably about 10k (on PC NA).

    Truly amazing that people believe this.
  • Wrecking_Gorilla
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    @Wrecking_Gorilla maybe Xbox is a lot worse than pc, but I think that if even delves are providing you with that many issues that something is up with the way you’re connecting to the servers.

    I’m on PS4 but you’re correct. Most of my issues were solved when I changed my connection, to the automatic setup, instead of the dns server I was using. My ping was going up and down, causing lag every few minutes. There’s still a little lag but most of my frustration is gone. :smile:
  • Nord_Templar
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    @Wrecking_Gorilla maybe Xbox is a lot worse than pc, but I think that if even delves are providing you with that many issues that something is up with the way you’re connecting to the servers.

    I’m on PS4 but you’re correct. Most of my issues were solved when I changed my connection, to the automatic setup, instead of the dns server I was using. My ping was going up and down, causing lag every few minutes. There’s still a little lag but most of my frustration is gone. :smile:

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  • LMar
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    Not sure if you have been keeping up with updates but Clockwork City is bringing improvements in the optimisation of the engine and as such will improve loading times etc esp for consoles.
    I just feel if more people took the time to get informed of upcoming things the whole community would be better off
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  • Alexandrious
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    LMar wrote: »
    Not sure if you have been keeping up with updates but Clockwork City is bringing improvements in the optimisation of the engine and as such will improve loading times etc esp for consoles.
    I just feel if more people took the time to get informed of upcoming things the whole community would be better off

    Wait, didnt they say that many times before, of bringing improvements, and jack *** happens anyway?
  • MakoFore
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    sigh.....another day. .......

    ive seen the same posts for the past year and a half - i daresay its been the same complaints since beta.

    they just dont care or have the resources to care. only way to get their attention is to vote with your crowns - ala -

    https://gamerant.com/for-honor-microtransaction-protest/
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    br0steen wrote: »
    10 million copies purchased. Ever wonder why you don't hear about average usuage? It would sound really bad. The company's business model is geared towards the short term, not long term sustained growth, which is also why population has been decreasing.

    Casual Population is increasing. Its just that engame playerbase is declining A LOT, which is sad.
    Edited by Alcast on October 8, 2017 3:29PM
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  • chill9949ub17_ESO
    Oh wow would you look at that!! New DLC drops and the game is buggier then ever! Terrible load screens, getting kicked like crazy! It's time to focus on the general mechanics of your game ZOS!!
  • SHADOW2KK
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    ZoS the only gaming company in my long gaming experience who tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible.

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  • ccfeeling
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    Fixing could not earn money :wink:
  • cbdfarm
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    The developers real name is Zenimax Profit, you really think they want to fix the game?
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  • a1i3nz
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    And PVP on Xbox

    Infinite loadscreen

    For days now

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  • trapnation
    i honestly think it's yall systems you play on i don't lag on pc or xbox one from server. upgrade your system first but every since they updated the game i get this infinite load screen in pve zones i have to exit my game just to play again for xbox one.
  • Vaoh
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    We were fighting St. Olms+St. Felms tonight for the first time and only had one chance (before people had to go) to beat him.

    .... we got Olms to 11% health and then our main tank crashed, and from there is was a long process of rezzing the dead until we finally wiped at around 5% and we called it for the night -_- if we run other trials we get neverending load screens that manage to force nearly the entire raid team to close app -> relog and also constant crashing.

    It’s so bad atm. ZOS really has to speed up this fix.
    Edited by Vaoh on November 13, 2017 6:42AM
  • CiliPadi
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    The lag is very bad on consoles too. I have stoppped my ESO Plus subscription renewal until this game is at least playable.
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