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Everything wrong with ESO
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Way to long
A couple points.
Yes, it would be nice if Zos could figure out how to make Cyrodiil work half decent. There really is no excuse, other than incompetence of indifference, that the lag has not be brought under control after 3.5 years.
Zos clearly had no clue how CP would affect the game. The original no cap was stupid and destined to be brought under control. The catch up system of enlighten was clearly insufficient and even with the scaled XP per CP point we have now it is still insufficient.
As for challenge of "casual PvE content" I am expecting OP is thinking of open world content, quest content and all open dungeon bosses. For a new player, which has no CP and basically crap gear, it is fairly challenging. Looking at it from the perspective of being CP capped from lvl 1, not even considering gear, is a very narrow minded way of judging it.
As for what is wrong with the vet rank system, there is no. That could be the source of confusion.
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LadyLethalla✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's almost 1,5 years now since Zenimax neglects the game to the point where people just have enough. People trying to discuss stuff on forum but does it have any point? I don't think so. Here I just want to give u guys the list of things Zenimax should/shouldn't do. Changes which are killing the game for me and for a lot of u as well.
34. Do we really needed houses? You can't even store stuff there. They spoil the landscapes as well.
35. Craftbag doesn't sound like a required feature for this game. We were doing just fine before.
Could you explain how the Craft Bag is "killing the game"? It's an ESO+ feature. If you don't want it, don't subscribe?
As for houses, despite the actual lack of storage, some of us actually like to do that kind of thing. Again, if you don't want it, don't participate. As for "spoil the landscape"... smh
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Slick_007✭✭✭✭✭
✭i have another issue: i need the time back that i spent reading this waste of time.
'do we need houses' - dont buy one if you dont want it. far out this list is pathetic7 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Like 98% of the changes were needed and game-changing. Also, Minor Slayer not needed in the game? Do you know nothing about the end-game pve community?Edited by WuffyCerulei on October 1, 2017 10:56PM"Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power2 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I made it halfway through OP's list before giving up. Some of the things he wants are clearly just bad. Grindy veteran ranks back? Slower leveling of PvP skill lines? Back to virtually dead Craglorn? Cuz that's what Craglorn was before it was made more solo friendly, a dead zone."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
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Witch of Evermore
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Kneighbors✭✭✭✭✭Before ESO I was playing BF3. Now there was several bugs in a game, like a very powerful heli TV rocket not damaging on direct hit. So every patch community was waiting for that bug to be fixed. Was waiting and waiting. And then devs anounced BF4 and everybody realised that the TV rocket ain't gonna get fixed ever.
Why I'm telling this? Because although I agree with most of the things you wrote it is better for you to start to accept that most of your list won't ever get fixed. They will move to developing another game sooner than all of this will get attention.0 -
Alexandrious✭✭✭
Wrong. It's a well known myth, and has been debunked several times by ZOS.
Cant tell if white knighting.....or trolling....1 -
kyle.wilson✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alexandrious wrote: »
And considering the cash cow that the crown store has become, I would expect it to be ESO2 before another single player ES game.
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Tintaglia72✭✭✭I stopped reading at not needing the craft bag... erm mate.. you are soooooooo wrong!3 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm not sure how you managed to come up with 52 points of which I mostly disagree with.
Hahahaha, me too!"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
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Huyen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Your post is 99% pvp-related. We of the PVE-community dont agree with this list unless you adress all the pve-issues as well!Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
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Yarlenzey✭✭✭✭I have an opinion on this, but expressing it will see it edited out by the Oligarchy.
I got suspenders for saying "Testicular Mass" instead of "Balls". like, rilly.0 -
AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭A lot of this seems like you're complaining because you don't like change.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 502 -
Ilithyania✭✭✭✭✭"12. Oh my sweet Imperial City, what have they done to you? Let self respawns only in base, flags system doesn't really work here"
Agree. I remember on conosle IC used to be big zergs/small groups/even daytime dueling. then the flag thing came and it kinda died.PC0 -
Wrong. It's a well known myth, and has been debunked several times by ZOS.
Not quite.
It was the patch that also contained new indoor lighting (not lightning) effects where performance tanked into the 2-3 FPS range for everyone in Cyrodiil for the better part of a week.
However it was some anti cheat code that was the issue, not the new lighting effects.
As I understand it the "anti cheat code" was to move a significant amount of code from client side to server side to prevent cheats from running their own code to alter the values being returned from client side. This reduced the amount of cheating but had an adverse effect on performance.
And yes, before you say it, there are still cheats. They just don't use that method any more.0 -
SirAxen✭✭✭✭✭That is a lot of points that I disagree with in one thread. Meh, each their own. Enjoy OP.0 -
Mannix1958✭✭✭✭All I can say about the original 52 rant...glad you don't design the game. I would have been out here long ago and I have been here since beta.1 -
Getern✭✭✭Well yes, I don't like changes that's true. I have already stated in comment before that most of this points are about to bring the game to the state where it was 1,5-2 years ago. It's more of a PVP friendly vision with some limitations for PVE, due to which content will be a little bit harder. Among those 52 there is only a few of my ideas that could make gameplay more enjoyable and balanced.
To make it clear, yup this is just my opinion. I am sorry for potential grammar/spelling mistakes, English is not my first language.0 -
pkuronen✭✭✭One small opinion in an ocean of opinions. It's kinda like you're sitting in your own sandbox surrounded by all these toy cars complaining about the branding of the toy car tyres.
In a way your post proves just the opposite of what you wrote.0 -
TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭My Only Issues with the game right now is that they removed one of the core cp options from the sorcerers, wee need more magicka regen % because even with the drinks and with almost 1.5k magicka regen i am still running out magicka way too faster as i should be, thats an issue for me. I am not playing pvp anymore sience when i have acomplished my emperorship.
They removed the formal emperor passives from cyrodiil there is no point to kill a DK in cyrodiil, i rember we were almost a 40 people there and it was imposible to kill him. At least formal emps passives we would had a chance at leats.
So going back to pvp for me is not an option.
The Performance issues are sirius indeed and i hope they will fix it soon enough, the rest of the topic what you have made is just a QQ whining stuff for me.GM Of The Lusty Argonian ERPGM Of THe Alessia Dynasty PVP GuildGM Of The Guardians Of MiddleEarthMy Smiling Emperor Profile Picture: https://ibb.co/bsOM6n0 -
Azurya✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's almost 1,5 years now since Zenimax neglects the game to the point where people just have enough. People trying to discuss stuff on forum but does it have any point? I don't think so. Here I just want to give u guys the list of things Zenimax should/shouldn't do. Changes which are killing the game for me and for a lot of u as well.
1. Infamous lightning patch. No matter what else it did, the performance got serious hit.
2. After 3 years, I wouldn't really mind having lagless PVP experience.
3. How bout finally doing something with Bots?
4. Invalid changes to CP system. Why did they even capped CP and then stacked effects like Elementals and Magic at the same star? It was a rejection of using great class balancing tool.
5. Casual PVE content is way to easy for average player. It's MMO, it makes sense to need someone to help u sometimes.
6. Can someone explain me what was wrong with Veteran Ranks System? Till today, I just don't understand.
7. Why are there still AOE caps?
8. Alliance War skills are way easy to obtain. Back in a day, u had to work for it. Now it's just a matter of few hours.
9. Why there is no reducing healing done to allies in PVP environment by 25%. Basically raw 75% healing reduction from ally's heal with Battle Spirit. That would reduce numbers of healing bots.
10. I don't really see Minor Slayer buff fitting into the game. I vote for replacing it with raw stats om sets.
11. Craglorn should be "difficult" content designed for group play with adequate rewards as reasons to play it.
12. Oh my sweet Imperial City, what have they done to you? Let self respawns only in base, flags system doesn't really work here, mobs are laughable easy to kill now, we need 90% Tel Vars dropping from players feature back, no more buyable Hakiejo's and making Agilty/Willpower more demanded again.
13. Obtainablity of endgame mats (v15-v16) only for Tel Vars, deconstructions and occasional survey's writs rewards. It would make IC popular again.
14. We need some more reliable ways to let PVPers make gold. Like more demanded sets essential for certain builds.
15. Just get rid off heavy armor meta please. Get back old stats with a touch better Constitution passive.
16. Resource poisons are cancer of PVP and reason so many was T-bagged for using. Poisons in general weren't good for the game.
17. Please stop changing abilitie's damage type. It's not healthy for class balance neither for immersion.
18. Bring back old animation canceling system. It's kind of a annoying now for FH and werewolves users.
19. Camo/Evil hunter was a great abilty. Worth sloting for procs and cirt in PVE just as usefull tool to work on vampire population in PVP.
20. I really think that some Master's weapons need more love.
21. Why did we get reduced amount of allies healed from 3 to 2 with FH and BoL? Really annoying in dungeons.
22. RNG factor increase by making more traits available. Well, I rather had certain traits for certain sets avaliable only, rather than struggle with 8-9 traits lottery. Limited traits are also great balancing tool for overperforming sets.
23. RNG factor increase in everyday struggles. We used to get way more golden improvemnts from raw mats back in day.
24. Say NO! to instant damage proc sets. Just leave us with relatively balanced sets like Skoria once was...
25. Let us get decent loot from vTrials we can actually sell everywhere. Still wondering what made Zenimax to screw that.
26. There is way to many sets and like 90% of them is garbage. What's their purpose actually?
27. I feel like we need toggleable abilties back. They seem to be one of balancing factors.
28. Vicious Death is not very healthy set for the game. Concept was good tho.
29. Reduce the amount of AP for zerglings.
30. I don't like recent Veteran Dungeons System with I and II vet/normal. Why cant't we have it like it was pre One Tamriel but with new veteran versions for rest of dungeons (unnecessarily DLC ones)
31. Don't throw so many monster sets at us. Most of them is garbage anyway. Avoid giving both flat stats for one piece set (Domihaus).
32. Weapon trees ultimates shouldn't ever be implemented. Some were way too OP. Instead they should focus on class ultimates to be more viable.
33. 3 years and I still can't change look of my gear.
34. Do we really needed houses? You can't even store stuff there. They spoil the landscapes as well.
35. Craftbag doesn't sound like a required feature for this game. We were doing just fine before.
36. Minor Magica Steal? Was there something wrong with Elemental Drain and Siphon Spirit Combo followed with Orbs? It's example of direct attack on healer's support role in the group.
37. Bring back group utility for Repetance. Why was it screwed up first place?
38. Blazing shards - fine stamina return as group utility and decent stun for PVP. Guess what? Not anymore.
39. Clouding Swarm's invisibilty was a really great tool for Templars and NBs to wipe out bigger groups in PVP without them knowing what the hell is going on.
40. 6 seconds shields duration, how does it affects PVP? You gotta reapply hardened ward in app. that time anyway. That was mostly PVE unnecessery nerf.
41. Bring back Minot Mending as it was. Igneus Shield really lost on it's utilty for DKs, also it's almost obvious for Templars to have that buff for longer, thats how they used to survive.
42. Harness Magica was wroking just fine as just Spell Aborbtion. Why buffing Mag Srocs anymore?
43. Just do something with those snares in PVP. Does every single skill have to snare you? No one came out with snare immunity set idea yet?
44. I'm guessing that it is immposible to keep bow drawn for longer or at least Zenimax thinks it is not.
45. Cloak is still bugged, there is more abilities that can get u off it, than u can evade. Hiding from Meteor was also a great thing and FFS give the skill the snare removal finally.
46. Wish there were actually reasons to use Reflect on DK, just let use reflect meteors again.
47. Streak could evade a lot of projectails, including Meteor. Bring that back.
48. When will we finally get ablity to change ours gear's look? It can even cost Crows I dont care.
49. Wrecking Blow wasn't that OP, was actually great for vMA. Just make it bashable in PVP.
50. Why not making 2h more viable in PVE for burst builds? Also bring back old Executioner's effect.
51. Siphoning Attacks didn't require any changes, they were fine as they were.
52. Bring back old Surge effect with cap for Overload and exception for Rapid Strikes.
That is all I have in mind... for now at least. Do you guys agree/disagree? Maybe wanna add something?
why are you still playing this game???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????1 -
MercyKilling✭✭✭✭✭Mannix1958 wrote: »All I can say about the original 52 rant...glad you don't design the game. I would have been out here long ago and I have been here since beta.
I've been around since beta and DID leave a while back. Totally did not like the direction the game was taking. Every day I see more things I don't like being added to a game that could have been much better, imnsho.I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
3) Difficulty slider.
4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.1 -
Loc2262✭✭✭✭✭8. Alliance War skills are way easy to obtain. Back in a day, u had to work for it. Now it's just a matter of few hours.
12. Oh my sweet Imperial City, what have they done to you? Let self respawns only in base, flags system doesn't really work here, mobs are laughable easy to kill now, we need 90% Tel Vars dropping from players feature back, no more buyable Hakiejo's and making Agilty/Willpower more demanded again.
13. Obtainablity of endgame mats (v15-v16) only for Tel Vars, deconstructions and occasional survey's writs rewards. It would make IC popular again.
14. We need some more reliable ways to let PVPers make gold. Like more demanded sets essential for certain builds.
You should realize that there are people who don't play PVP. I'm one of them. I hate Cyrodiil. So I very much hope that these suggestions will NEVER see the light of day.
Getting Warhorn/Caltrops is a nightmare for me, even if it is "just a few hours". The day that tier 10 mats are only available in PVP is the day when I'm gonna quit this game faster than a Nightblade doing stealth attack . (No this is NOT a game quitting reply, cause I know this will never happen.
) Kind regards,
Frank
PC-EU, 12 chars, 900+CP1 -
ereboz✭✭✭✭✭Some of these are valid points. But your clearly a PvP player, because a lot of what your saying would force pve players to play PvP to get what we need.1 -
Alexandrious✭✭✭kyle.wilson wrote: »Alexandrious wrote: »
And considering the cash cow that the crown store has become, I would expect it to be ESO2 before another single player ES game.
No more single player evah again. Maybe ESO2 will be done by bethesda, though, wont be much better.
Lulz.0
probably the only thing on this thread I agree with... 