Pirhanni the Smuggler

16BitForestCat · September 2017

I also complained about Pirharri and suggested how to improve her functionality a few days ago: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4496073#Comment_4496073

Really hoping that if there's enough vocal support for it, we can get improved service from Pirharri.

Right now, though? Seriously, the only thing I use her for is as a decoration in my house. Last time I checked, some of my decorating friends had covered her in bounty posters for some reason. She's more useful as a wall than as an assistant for most players.

phileunderx2 · September 2017

At least let us pay off a bounty with her. I do use her from time to time but not that often.

Loralai_907 · September 2017

Yeah, she's pretty useless. Due to her severe lack of services and the 35% cut, I have never used her, and will not use her unless she has a pretty big overhaul.

SFDB · September 2017

I understand their rationale, but do agree that results in her being useless. On most days it never even occurs to me there's a third assistant.

Realistically, anyone who has her would already have access to Alik'r Desert, which has a thieves den you can reach from the zone's main wayshrine with zero chance of being seen, ergo, anyone who can transport to a friend or guildie can reach a wayshrine, to reach Sentinel, to get into a den and dump your goods at real prices, with only a few load screens in between. So all you're really doing is trading that 35% for skipping some load screens.

So, how about instead of that, allow her to directly transport you to inside the Hew's Bane Thieves Den? One load screen to get there and you can then sell your goods, look up a thieves mission, maybe run a heist or talk to Remains-Silent. A quick transport from in the field or in your home. That's what I'd like, even more than just selling or fencing with her.

idk · September 2017

The idea of the cut seems fairly simple. We can fence our loot if we get a bounty ans not lose everything. Also, there is a passive in the TG line that salvanges some of that loss.

I don't see Zos changing it in any way. Just go to a thieves den ans launder. This is all old news.

Imza · September 2017

1. Don't remove the cut it should be high
2. Add launder at 35% cost also
3. Remove the limit

Give players the option to continue stealing and laundering past the limit in Legerdemain.

firedrgn · September 2017

I would rather have a higher limit or no limit and keep the 35% cut. Well 15 would be better. We can only haggle for an extra 10% ..but smuggler get 35% double standard . lol

Now that I sid that does the haggle,apply to the smuggler,or just the outlaws fence.
I guess I could have looked myself if one as a bit smarter.

Slick_007 · September 2017

eso_nya wrote: »

Beside her not being able to launder, her service is not only bad, because of her cut, its also not really usefull when going for the "Sell stolen items worth 4k at each thiefsden".

thats easily achieved and then you can sell anywhere.

if you wont go back to a den to sell, you should pay a premium for someone else to go in your place.

keep pirhanni as is.

The_Protagonist · September 2017

When I saw the 35% fee, I never ever used her.

Ilithyania · September 2017

Greedy little cat. ill take my business elsewhere

Lord_Etrigan · September 2017

The only function she has is that of a statue in my guild home.

DarcyMardin · September 2017

She's completely useless to me. I never summon her.

Soulless_1 · September 2017

DarcyMardin wrote: »

She's completely useless to me. I never summon her.

Same here. I just go back and forward to either launder or sell the stolen goods.

starkerealm · September 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

@Storymaster I assumed that's what all the huff is about. The utility to dump all your stolen items and keep going is great, who cares if she takes 35% it's not like I'm stealing items for the sake of making gold, is stealing for leveling up to reduce sneak cost.
I do agree it would be nice for her to be able to launder but I assume they're saving that for the "premium" assistants?

@scipionumatia, it's pretty much the exact opposite of RPers. I could see them using her, ironically. But, for anyone who's serious about thievery as an income source, Pirhanni is useless.

Aisle9 · September 2017

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

Pretty useless given the fact we can’t launder.

I need to check if she counts towards the black market achievement. If she doesn’t then she is really useless.

I could be wrong about that, but I fenced some stuff to her yesterday and didn't see a legerdemain skill increase, nor an achievement progress in LUI, so...

Again, I could be wrong about that, maybe I just wasn't paying attention....

Malacthulhu · September 2017

method__01 wrote: »

its the price you pay for not going back and forth to fences,very practical when you carry a lot and you need inventory space

Then when she is placed in your house take away the 35% nerf bc as of right now she is only good for checking timer as no bonehead is gonna steal steal steal then sell to her for almost 50% less lol.

Zhaedri · September 2017

She sits in a cage in a couple of my houses. I have no use for her. I steal to make gold, and losing 35% to her is far too much. She also has no function other than fencing items at a super-high cut. No laundering, no bounty pay, nothing.

She would become infinitely more useful to me if she had a feature where she could sneak you into the closest outlaws refuge for 2x the wayshrine recall fee. Sometimes I'm just far afield away from wayshrines and my inventory *somehow* becomes full of stolen items, and I sure as hell am NOT selling them to that greedy cat -- but I will pay her to smuggle me somewhere where I can get full value!

silvermistktralasub17_ESO · September 2017

I actually had a reasonable use for her the other day, but only for limited times. I had just finished the thieves' guild experience tree, was working on the last level of the dark brotherhood one (which I did simultaneously, for covetous countess purposes). I no longer needed a full inventory, and I didn't want to lose the money if I got caught in a kill I needed to make, so, after each kill/swipe, I'd bring her out, sell the new junk, then go back to collect my reward from Elam, because it saved me a bit of time that way. I didn't risk losing stuff if I got caught, and I didn't just leave stuff behind when I made those last 10 kills. So, there are uses for her, just limited ones.

(thankfully, now that I've reached 12th in both, I can turn on the option to avoid killing automatically, and my thievery is limited by an addon that prevents me from getting caught easily).

Alassirana

idk · September 2017

Imza wrote: »

1. Don't remove the cut it should be high
2. Add launder at 35% cost also
3. Remove the limit

Give players the option to continue stealing and laundering past the limit in Legerdemain.

The option to continue is having multiple characters. The limit per character is obvious, limit on how much a character can make in a day from it. There are limits elsewhere in the game.

Storymaster · September 2017

The consensus is in:

Pirhanni the Smuggler sucks.

patrick_smyth · September 2017

Pirhanni is playing with my senche panther at my character's home. They have the ball of wool.
This was the only use I could find for her. A 35% markup is way too much.

Slick_007 · September 2017

phileunderx2 wrote: »

At least let us pay off a bounty with her. I do use her from time to time but not that often.

way too overpowered an option.

Nordic_Pirate · September 2017

Slick_007 wrote: »

phileunderx2 wrote: »

At least let us pay off a bounty with her. I do use her from time to time but not that often.

way too overpowered an option.

Yeah, that would be OP. Only way it wouldn't is if it was similar to real life where urgent stuff costs more. So if she paid your bounty, it'd have to be 2X the actual bountry. Then again...it'd make that one achievement easy as pie. The one where you pay off 1m in bounties or whatever it is.

Colecovision · September 2017

I have a mad god inspired snugpod and I keep her on the ceiling. With housing being so lifeless, I do love that her tail moves. As an assistant, she's useless.

She should take 50%, not 35%, but have no item limit cap. I could stop destroying all the white stolen items and other people could stop leaving them behind.

As far as laundering, it's 146g to get to the anvil wayshrine and there are no guards between the wayshrine and the outlaw refuge. If you've really got something that valuable, use that or another option like it.

Storymaster · September 2017

Colecovision wrote: »

I have a mad god inspired snugpod and I keep her on the ceiling. With housing being so lifeless, I do love that her tail moves. As an assistant, she's useless.

She should take 50%, not 35%, but have no item limit cap. I could stop destroying all the white stolen items and other people could stop leaving them behind.

As far as laundering, it's 146g to get to the anvil wayshrine and there are no guards between the wayshrine and the outlaw refuge. If you've really got something that valuable, use that or another option like it.

Excellent advice, @Colecovision

Nordic_Pirate · September 2017

Storymaster wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

I have a mad god inspired snugpod and I keep her on the ceiling. With housing being so lifeless, I do love that her tail moves. As an assistant, she's useless.

She should take 50%, not 35%, but have no item limit cap. I could stop destroying all the white stolen items and other people could stop leaving them behind.

As far as laundering, it's 146g to get to the anvil wayshrine and there are no guards between the wayshrine and the outlaw refuge. If you've really got something that valuable, use that or another option like it.

Excellent advice, @Colecovision

This guys signature says not to trust anything he says. So while I agree with him, I don't trust that is his emotion.

Storymaster · September 2017

Nordicly_Responsible wrote: »

This guys signature says not to trust anything he says. So while I agree with him, I don't trust that is his emotion.

idk · September 2017

Considering she is basically free and eliminating her cut when fencing items would eliminate the risk of thieving and getting a bounty it seems fairly fine as is.

Storymaster · September 2017

idk wrote: »

Considering she is basically free and eliminating her cut when fencing items would eliminate the risk of thieving and getting a bounty it seems fairly fine as is.

She cannot launder though, which is perceived by many to make her useful, even if she was limited to laundering only 1 item a day.

Stormshaper · September 2017

35% fee can be mitigated to 25% with the haggling passive from Thieve's Guild but still...EXPENSIVE. And like (almost) everyone else I wish she could do my laundry, er launder my sundries, damn, I mean launder my 'borrowed' items.