Might aswell just delete the sorc class allthogheter, have you tried playing magsorc in heavy armor and using heals? I did, its by far the worst class to do that.

Don't nerf anyone ... plz stop with the nerfs

Annulment and morphs should not be allowed to stack with empowered- and hardened ward.

GreenhaloX wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

Might aswell just delete the sorc class allthogheter, have you tried playing magsorc in heavy armor and using heals? I did, its by far the worst class to do that.

Yes, I have. All my MagSorc have HA. For soloing, it's great for resource management and better survivability. I have the traditional LA set, but I prefer HA combo build/set. Been rolling through wb and soloing dungeons much better with HA on than LA. This is both mag and stam toons. As an ESO lonewolf, I prefer the HA passives, Wrath and Rapid Mending, over those LA passives. Plus, you get substantially more resistance from HA than LA which makes soloing with a MagSorc all the better.

I think this poll is more PVP oriented, in PVE you dont even need to shield sometimes, given how easy solo content is.

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

Might aswell just delete the sorc class allthogheter, have you tried playing magsorc in heavy armor and using heals? I did, its by far the worst class to do that.

The cry of every class on the chopping block. 'Even one change ruins the class!'

The funny part is that I only know when to pay attention to nerf threads when I see these comments.

Okay so how about that, lets make cloak increase its cost on recast much like streak, what do you think? Dont expect to cry "nerf" to class defining stuff and expect everyone to be fine with that, its not about ruining the class, its about the "nerf meta" that the community is feeding on a daily basis

If heavy armor didn't function as it does right now, I'd say that shield stacking in light armor is better than what medium armor is capable of. But most stamina players are using heavy armor for both burst and defense, only a few still try and use medium armor with mixed results.

The meta is to tank and heal until your cheap defensive ult is up, aside from a few niche builds Sorc is the only one doing this in light armor. But a Sorc isn't tanking the damage of 4 good players like a stamina build in heavy, they are using their mobility in conjunction with LOS and dark deal. I don't think there is a single Sorc out there currently capable of simply shielding to tank the damage of 4 good players applying cc and pressure, in the same way that a heavy armor stamina build can with hots. And this is something that Sorc used to be able to do very well in past patches for various reasons, when complaints of shield stacking were legitimate.

If you think otherwise feel free to make a Sorc and try for yourself. The only complaint I can even come close to understanding is that shield stacking vs medium armor tends to be unfair for medium armor, but ZOS doesn't seem to even care that medium armor is a thing.

Derra wrote: »

Annulment and morphs should not be allowed to stack with empowered- and hardened ward.

Exactly this.

Yes.

Next question?

Vietfox wrote: »

jlboozer wrote: »

Just stop with these nerf threads already, it's not shields that are OP...you're just bad at the game. L2P!

L2Read, just asked a question, didn't ask for a nerf.

In a strongly suggestive manner....we know what you mean.

Vietfox wrote: »

Me, the OP, didn't want to vote in my own poll till read some answers. After that, i can say that i mostly agree with the ones who voted "other". That or buff medium armor.
Decided to create this poll cause i mainly played with a stamblade, then started with a magblade and could see the obvious difference of survivality between these 2 builds. I noticed that long ago and is still like this, that why i was curious about other's opinion.

If you're playing medium armor stamnb just get a Sorc to chase you, turn around and get him with a poison injection and drop ballista (bow ult). While the ballista is on him gap close with a fear and lay in some surprise attacks, with a double dot poison you should have 3 dots on him. Short of him popping a resto ult he's almost guaranteed to die if he gets caught in the cc.

I play medium armor stamnb and this trick will work most of the time, very high reliability. Stamnb in medium armor can be super squishy, but there are ways to add in a little more defense.

OdinForge wrote: »

If heavy armor didn't function as it does right now, I'd say that shield stacking in light armor is better than what medium armor is capable of. But most stamina players are using heavy armor for both burst and defense, only a few still try and use medium armor with mixed results.

The meta is to tank and heal until your cheap defensive ult is up, aside from a few niche builds Sorc is the only one doing this in light armor. But a Sorc isn't tanking the damage of 4 good players like a stamina build in heavy, they are using their mobility in conjunction with LOS and dark deal. I don't think there is a single Sorc out there currently capable of simply shielding to tank the damage of 4 good players applying cc and pressure, in the same way that a heavy armor stamina build can with hots. And this is something that Sorc used to be able to do very well in past patches for various reasons, when complaints of shield stacking were legitimate.

If you think otherwise feel free to make a Sorc and try for yourself. The only complaint I can even come close to understanding is that shield stacking vs medium armor tends to be unfair for medium armor, but ZOS doesn't seem to even care that medium armor is a thing.

True but those heavy tankers lack the burst potential of a sorc. Sorcs have mobility, impenetrable shields, high dps/burst from any distance. Undodgeable range execute and if the sorc forgets to execute while target is in the execute window their passive implosion will take care of it for them. They are the all in one class. Sorcs need a rebalancing and penalizing sheilds might just be the solution.