Who is more evil, The Prophet or Mannimarco?

ArchMikem · September 2017

Varen had nothing to do with the Soulburst. If not for Mannimarco the ritual would have been performed flawlessly, cause i do not doubt Tharn's skill and knowledge.

Seriously, the Prophet isnt the slightest "Evil".

Ilithyania · September 2017

The Prophet

- Yells "FREEDOM!" when he swaps place with Lyris. Creepy.

YES he is scum.

eso_nya · September 2017

Neither!

Both r whimps.
Using others to work for your goals and deciving them about your intentions, its not nice, but not really evil aswell. On the good old scale between lawful good and chaotic evil, u could get away w/ chaotic good for that, maybe drop to neutral. Esp. when u drop the act long before achieving those goals.

Wrothgar story spoiler:

Alga was decent villain. She had Kurog believe until the end, that he was doing the good and rightful thing.

Thiefsguild story spoiler:

Zeira is still unbeaten imo as evil ultralord. I guess most ppl dont even notice, that under the hand, everything that happens to the thiefsguild was her fault, and yet she manages to put all the blame on nicolas (whose plans she completely ruins), and even (depending on your choice) can manage to get u to kill him, against the rules of the guild. And she gets away with it, well played!

Unfadingsilence · September 2017

Other

RNJesus

Konstant_Tel_Necris · September 2017

Other

Add Abnur Tharn to the list, since he was switching sides since serving Longhouse Emperors and was able avoid final punishmet for his actions, unlike of Varen who lost much of his life and spent some time in Coldharbour and have chance to be redeemed by sacrifice, and Mannimarco, who was tortured by Molag Bal himself.
Even his ancestrors work for Ayleids then switch to Alessians when they get power, and his descendant Jagar Tarn make even more trubles.

Storymaster · September 2017

Mannimarco

eso_nya wrote: »

Both r whimps.

Allllllllllllllllllllrighty then, Biff!

Storymaster · September 2017

Mannimarco

Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »

Add Abnur Tharn to the list, since he was switching sides since serving Longhouse Emperors and was able avoid final punishmet for his actions, unlike of Varen who lost much of his life and spent some time in Coldharbour and have chance to be redeemed by sacrifice, and Mannimarco, who was tortured by Molag Bal himself.
Even his ancestrors work for Ayleids then switch to Alessians when they get power, and his descendant Jagar Tarn make even more trubles.

Abner Tharn is the most grossly misunderstood hero of the Five Companions whose actions clearly illustrate his motives and loyalty in a complex and difficult time. The fact is, he doesn't paint pretty pictures with his words, doesn't take [snip] from his peers, and constantly points out the error of their thinking, giving cold, harsh wisdom when they don't want to listen. He is willing to do what must be done, and the character is masterfully voice-acted by Alfred Molina. The nuances in his performance can betray his innermost feelings at various parts in the main Vestige narrative.

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ThePrinceOfBargains · September 2017

Mannimarco

Your insistence on Varen even remotely resembling anything akin to evil continues to be completely ridiculous. You’re reaching for an alternative interpretation that simply isn’t there unless you force it.

Vrienda · September 2017

The Prophet

Literally Molag Bal.

Glockcoma725 · September 2017

Storymaster wrote: »

Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »

Add Abnur Tharn to the list, since he was switching sides since serving Longhouse Emperors and was able avoid final punishmet for his actions, unlike of Varen who lost much of his life and spent some time in Coldharbour and have chance to be redeemed by sacrifice, and Mannimarco, who was tortured by Molag Bal himself.
Even his ancestrors work for Ayleids then switch to Alessians when they get power, and his descendant Jagar Tarn make even more trubles.

Abner Tharn is the most grossly misunderstood hero of the Five Companions whose actions clearly illustrate his motives and loyalty in a complex and difficult time. The fact is, he doesn't paint pretty pictures with his words, doesn't take [snip] from his peers, and constantly points out the error of their thinking, giving cold, harsh wisdom when they don't want to listen. He is willing to do what must be done, and the character is masterfully voice-acted by Alfred Molina. The nuances in his performance can betray his innermost feelings at various parts in the main Vestige narrative.

Hot dang was that a great performance or what. Really all of the VA's of the companions did a good job, but man, Mr Molina just made Tharn seem so.....alive

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itehache · September 2017

Mannimarco

I mean, I do not like either but I think the prophet was just being selfish. Yeah, he caused all the events that killed so many people... but Mannimarco is just pure evil.

SydneyGrey · September 2017

Mannimarco

Mannimarco, because he tortures and imprisons people.
BUT ...
I still haven't forgiven the Prophet for saying he would "protect me" in the Wailing Prison when I was being attacked by a giant bone colossus, and then he just stood by and picked his nose while I tried to not be killed. He lies. He lies a lot.

When the bone monster is spawning, he literally says "I'll protect you" ... then the nose picking begins. I'm pretty sure he left boogers on the floor in Coldharbor.

Ir0nB34r · September 2017

Mannimarco

The answer is pretty obviously the one with actual evil intent.

The Prophet was naive. Not evil.

Cadbury · September 2017

Other

Corypheus
Or Gwyn

Minyassa · September 2017

Mannimarco

Foolish does not equal evil. Foolish and evil CAN go together, obviously, but sometimes a fool is just a fool. I think Varen was just not the sharpest bulb in the crayon box.

MjolnirVilkas · September 2017

Both!

Cadbury wrote: »

Corypheus

Literally the lamest antagonist in the history of RPGs.