there's vMA or vDSA

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing more arenas, especially group ones, vDSA is bar none my fav endgame content in the game

Voxicity wrote: »

2-man arena would be amazing. My girlfriend and I would play the poo out of that

Yep, this is something that has been on my wishlist since launch basically. A 2 person, maelstrom type activity. Really does sound fun.

It would be nice if group finder included DSA. I have never played it because I'm the black sheep of my loser friends. None of them play video games

ereboz wrote: »

It would be nice if group finder included DSA. I have never played it because I'm the black sheep of my loser friends. None of them play video games

Join a guild, make new friends, disown old loser friends.
Sorted.

This game IMO is actually trying to get away from the proverbial 'end game' content. Which basically is a euphemism for something to do at 'max' level. I know people dont have a tendency to think outside the box when it comes to MMOs but this one sort of forces you to.

But with all that being said its impossible to develop enough content to keep people satisfied. In the grand scheme this game has a ton of 'independent' content (content that you dont repeat over and over and over again except on alts) and it still isnt enough.

Even when they drop a new DLC or hmm hmm choke gag 'expansion' that content is devoured in a day or two of 'real' time.

These guys do deliver a lot of 'new' stuff on a pretty regular basis. But with the way the game is it is either going to be all 'end game' or no 'end game' depending on how you want to look at it.

Because since everything scales anyway whats the difference? Making something 'elite' isnt really doing it, unless they make stuff you cant solo anyway, and even then does that qualify as 'end game' content?

Ironically when the game first came out and how dungeons scaled there was 'more' 'end game' content. But again perspective I guess since now in theory they all scale the same to max 160. Which is maybe more difficult than they were before. But with the new system theyre laughably easy for most people, even solo.

Voxicity wrote: »

2-man arena would be amazing. My girlfriend and I would play the poo out of that

Whether or not you'll still be together afterwards is questionable however. #FUFinn.

I would love a duo arena as well though.

I'd like to see some form of server wide, sequential content.

Phase 1: Basic new end-game content - drops some form of Token.
Phase 2: Slightly upscaled from Phase 1, only unlocks when the server has handed in X Tokens.
Phase 3: Upscaled again, requires Server and Personal Token hand-in targets to be met.

Runs over a period of weeks or a few months. When it is over EVERYONE who handed any Tokens in gets a "reward" Title, Cosmetic, Furnishing etc based on the overall Server Progress. And purchasable Rewards are available based on Personal Progress.

Phase 1 could be something as simple as killing Dolmen Bosses for Tokens.
Phase 2 could be a "pocket realm" mini-zone with a series of Bosses.
Phase 3 could be some form of Instanced content within that pocket realm.

All The Best

idk wrote: »

Remember, OP has not done dsa and not sure if he has done trials if he has trouble getting a 4 man group together. If so, it may not matter if they add a 2 man or 8 man arena unless OP starts getting into the group content.

I do vet dungeons constantly, with the group finder. And I do occasionally play with my brother, so the 2 man content would be interesting. I have done a trial or 2 on normal just to get the feel for it, and probably will get more into it once I get a better computer and finally hit CP 660/690, only 510 right now.

I'm personally against all gear BoE, some things should be limited to personal accomplishments, like monster helmets, master weapons, maelstrom weapons, the new asylum weapons...

That said, there's definitely way too much BoP gear. Dungeon sets or at least Trial sets should go back to be BoE, instead of BoP, that made no sense. Healthier economy, everyone's happy, everybody wins.

ereboz wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Remember, OP has not done dsa and not sure if he has done trials if he has trouble getting a 4 man group together. If so, it may not matter if they add a 2 man or 8 man arena unless OP starts getting into the group content.

I do vet dungeons constantly, with the group finder. And I do occasionally play with my brother, so the 2 man content would be interesting. I have done a trial or 2 on normal just to get the feel for it, and probably will get more into it once I get a better computer and finally hit CP 660/690, only 510 right now.

You should give Dragonstar Arena a shot then. The normal mode is super easy, but still kinda fun, and you get a cool title. The vet one is super fun, you get an even cooler title, Master weapons (Master daggers will probably be BiS next patch, for DW builds).

wiz12268b14_ESO wrote: »

This game IMO is actually trying to get away from the proverbial 'end game' content. Which basically is a euphemism for something to do at 'max' level. I know people dont have a tendency to think outside the box when it comes to MMOs but this one sort of forces you to.

But with all that being said its impossible to develop enough content to keep people satisfied. In the grand scheme this game has a ton of 'independent' content (content that you dont repeat over and over and over again except on alts) and it still isnt enough.

Even when they drop a new DLC or hmm hmm choke gag 'expansion' that content is devoured in a day or two of 'real' time.

These guys do deliver a lot of 'new' stuff on a pretty regular basis. But with the way the game is it is either going to be all 'end game' or no 'end game' depending on how you want to look at it.

Because since everything scales anyway whats the difference? Making something 'elite' isnt really doing it, unless they make stuff you cant solo anyway, and even then does that qualify as 'end game' content?

Ironically when the game first came out and how dungeons scaled there was 'more' 'end game' content. But again perspective I guess since now in theory they all scale the same to max 160. Which is maybe more difficult than they were before. But with the new system theyre laughably easy for most people, even solo.

its not really out side the box in my opinion . 90 % of the content they deliver post launch is exactly the same as the first 20 levels over, and over ,and over, and over. Well you get the picture. Morrowind osrsinium are just single player leveling content with out levels . the guilds were a travesty. literally horrible content with unfinished game systems that had no impact on your finish product.
The dungeon DLC's were ok not remotely worth paying for though for a non subber espically since those folks for the majority dont play the whole game anyhow. the last really content packed DLC was IC. I am not a PVP'r at all but at least it addressed all aspects of player base. truthfully Morrowind charged you 45 dollars for 1 class, 1 battleground, and a trial. the rest of Morrowind was single player yawntent that was not even as good as Orsinium.

ZoS allowing a degree of power creep and introducing gradually more difficult content to compensate, so progression guilds of all tiers don't have to fear a huge setback every major update. If they didn't like people burning Rakkhat HM on pad 5, they should have given us a harder HoF instead of giving us Heavy Attacks Online, decimating the endgame community and giving the finger to the majority of groups that were still at the point of barely clearing the existing content.

If they can manage that, more content like vMA that bridges the gap between the solo/pug playstyle and endgame PvE would help the population rebuild.

And while we're in optimist fantasy land, apply the AS polymorph concept to other Hardmodes. Mounts, costumes, anything to earn as an occasional drop that would encourage players to do more than just clear once.