Help me build my stamplar for PVE endgame trials!

scipionumatia · September 2017

Alright, I tried playing stamplar in pvp, and while I had fun spearing people off keeps, off horses, into lava, and off bridges its really not my play style... I just like the javelin skill.
Anyway I have decided to try to build him for PVE end game melee DPS. I do like sweeps for DPS, just not in PVP I don't like using channeled abilities or dots when playing against other people but I do like them against stupid NPC that stand in AoE.

Currently hes running Ravager and bone pirate with kragah helm. DW/2H
What kind of builds do people run on their stamplar?
Vicious ophidian and bone pirate work? loads of sustain but losing damage.

TFS any good since nerf? How about TBS?

Can I run 2H/Bow in PVE and be taken seriously? prefer 2h over dual wield cause of my pvp background

SoLooney · September 2017

i wouldnt recommend 2h in end game trials, youre losing damage and youre missing out 25perc damage reduction
if youre looking to get serious inti end game pve, a vma bow is a must. get night mothers gaze, sunderflame, vo, and tfs. get velidreth, selene, or stormfist set

scipionumatia · September 2017

@SoLooney
I can craft anything in the game, you listed 4 sets. Would any combination of those work? Or do I need all 4 sets depending on dungeon? Already have gold VO and nmg.

Lefthy · September 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

@SoLooney
I can craft anything in the game, you listed 4 sets. Would any combination of those work? Or do I need all 4 sets depending on dungeon? Already have gold VO and nmg.

Yes. you can put Night Mother Gaze plus VO

A recomendation would be to try to get a Maelstrom Bow, but that could take you a while to get too.

scipionumatia · September 2017

This will still be the case with the current changes to maelstrom weapons? Losing the additional damage bonus? Would masters bow be any good? I already have that, currently only maelstrom weapons I've gotten are maul axe ice staff, lightning staff. Haven't run it much

AtraisMachina · September 2017

I try and run stamp in trials. Still cant get a vma bow to drop so im a bit gimped. Basic stam set ups are good so tfs and hundings with a monster set, spriggans and hundings with monster, night mothers with hundings and a monster, are bis in decending order. You can also replace hundings with war machine but you need perfect weapons. I prefer stormfist as far as monster sets go because of the added concussion. Really the only monster set with a group dps variable.

As for a master bow. Single target it will be nicer than a set weapon but vma is still a must.

scipionumatia · September 2017

Good to know, thanks @AtraisMachina
So warmachine seems cool because of the templars cheap ultimate. It's a set I don't have though so maybe when I can get a 5 piece I'll run that.
What is everyone's thoughts on bone pirate? The recovery offered by it is really good and doesn't rely on getting kills like VO does which I'd think is good for boss rounds.
What about slime craw? Stormfist Selene veledrith is easy enough to get but does major berserk compare? It does have 100% uptime

FakeFox · September 2017

In my opinion TFS + Nightmothers/Hundings + Velidreth are best for non optimized groups and Warmachine + Nighmothers/Hundings + Velidreth for organized groups with proper stamina support (Thunderflame + Nighmothers + Morag Tong). 2H isn't all that great in my opinion, but you can play it. I personally recommend running base regen as you can easily sustain with 2/3 HA per rotation and therefore have generally very good uptimes and a fluid roation.

I'm not sure if you wan't advice on rotation as well, so here is mine: Endless Hail - LA - Razor Caltrops - La - Poison Injection - ( LA - Crescent Sweep) - BS - Rearming Trap - LA/HA - Power of the Light - HA - Blood Craze - HA - Biting Jabs - LA - Deadly Cloak - LA - Power of the Light

Edit: If you wan't to run Warmachine you don't have to do so over weapons. I prefer having it on jewellery and amour so I can have Crescent Sweep on backbar and Dawnbreaker on frontbar for more weapondamage. I've tested both setups and there is pretty much no difference in DPS.

scipionumatia · September 2017

@FakeFox thank you that's very helpful. A few questions:
Weapon traits and glyphs. Sharpened got cut in half, do we run 1 infused/1 precise? And glyphs, should I be running 1 weapon damage/1 crusher or 1 weapon damage 1 poison. Or one weapon damage/1 stam return? Since twin slashes no longer procs your second weapon enchant there's not a reliable way to keep up time.
How many weapon damage glyphs are we running on jewlery? How many stam reduction/regen?

Bars will be set up how?
Dw
Jabs, POTL, repent, blood craze, deadly cloak, flawless dawnbreaker
Bow
Endless hail, poison inject, caltrops, rearming trap, vigor, crescent sweep

FakeFox · September 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

@FakeFox thank you that's very helpful. A few questions:
Weapon traits and glyphs. Sharpened got cut in half, do we run 1 infused/1 precise? And glyphs, should I be running 1 weapon damage/1 crusher or 1 weapon damage 1 poison. Or one weapon damage/1 stam return? Since twin slashes no longer procs your second weapon enchant there's not a reliable way to keep up time.
How many weapon damage glyphs are we running on jewlery? How many stam reduction/regen?

Bars will be set up how?
Dw
Jabs, POTL, repent, blood craze, deadly cloak, flawless dawnbreaker
Bow
Endless hail, poison inject, caltrops, rearming trap, vigor, crescent sweep

Traits: All armour divine (warrior mundus), infused dagger + precise dagger/axe and nirnhoned maelstrombow (precise or infused might be better on the bow, but I don't have them)
Glyphs: 3x weapondamge on jewelery, mainhand poison, offhand weapondamge. So ~800 regen and no reduction. I'm Redguard, but it works on other races as well, you might need a synergy from time to time or one heavy attack more maybe.
The offhand Glyph isn't procing too well, but whatever. Next patch, or if you don't have a MSA-bow you could also have a weapondamage glyph on your bow.

Barsetup is correct, except that I have trap on my frontbar and Repentance on the backbar instead.

scipionumatia · September 2017

@FakeFox thank you again very helpful