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frost mage vs frost tank

lucky_Sage
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would you of rather had a frost mage dd or frost tank like they chose for the warden
also discuss why
Edited by lucky_Sage on September 24, 2017 7:15PM
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frost mage vs frost tank 40 votes

frost mage dd
55%
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frost tank
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  • Jade1986
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    frost tank
    Looks like we 2 are at an impass. xD
  • Vanthras79
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    frost mage dd
    Because ice magic is cool, for a lack of better words.
    Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.

  • Shardan4968
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    Both and neither.
    PC/EU
  • Jade1986
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    frost tank
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    Because ice magic is cool, for a lack of better words.

    Honestly we dont need another dps spec in the game, the game is a dps fest already.
  • Vanthras79
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    frost mage dd
    laced wrote: »
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    Because ice magic is cool, for a lack of better words.

    Honestly we dont need another dps spec in the game, the game is a dps fest already.

    I saw a sorc tank once. That was awesome.
    Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.

  • lucky_Sage
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    frost mage dd
    laced wrote: »
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    Because ice magic is cool, for a lack of better words.

    Honestly we dont need another dps spec in the game, the game is a dps fest already.

    every mmo dps its the vast majority
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  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    frost tank
    Just take the taunt off the staff ok? Taunting with a heavy attack is the worst idea ever.
  • phileunderx2
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    I think the taunt would be better in one of the destruction skills. Like be a morph of clench. That way a tank could choose a staff of their elemental choice. Not just ice.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    frost tank
    Wardens don't do a lot of damage already ... and when you layer an ice staff from the destruction line, those skills don't offer a lot for DPS.

    While a frost tank has its own issues it's the better option.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    frost mage dd
    Wardens don't do a lot of damage already ... and when you layer an ice staff from the destruction line, those skills don't offer a lot for DPS.

    While a frost tank has its own issues it's the better option.

    They created the "frost tank" because of wardens, yet wardens aren't being used as frost tanks (they're not being used as anything in endgame). Their DPS suffers as a result of this because they simply don't have enough DPS skills to be competitive (they do around 20% less damage than the other magicka DPS classes).
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 24, 2017 8:28PM
  • PurpleDrank
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    frost tank
    Just take the taunt off the staff ok? Taunting with a heavy attack is the worst idea ever.

    Agreed. Would have much rather they put it on Frost Touch/Clench/Reach or something like that.
  • mb10
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    I've never seen a viable frost tank ever

    The frost staff changes are actually maybe the worst idea ever
  • Chronicburn
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    Staves should NEVER pull aggro automatically... if they wanted to add a taunt skill to the staff line that would be fine. This is really bad for mag sorcs who like the ice staff and now safer with a bow lol
  • lucky_Sage
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    frost mage dd
    the only warden tanks are just tanky healers ult spaming trees and a defile debuff thats all the do really and thats in pvp
    Edited by lucky_Sage on September 25, 2017 3:27AM
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  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    frost tank
    Just take the taunt off the staff ok? Taunting with a heavy attack is the worst idea ever.

    Agreed. Would have much rather they put it on Frost Touch/Clench/Reach or something like that.

    Um, you do know about the Undaunted taunt Inner Fire, yes? Already exists.
  • Xelrick
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    frost tank
    I actually use an Ice staff for range taunt on my tank.

    Now I do use Sword and Board on my main bar like a Tank should, then my back bar is an Ice staff because it allows me to pull from Magicka pool and allows my stamina to recover. I favor the heavy attack taunt when my Magicka resource is low and I can't cast Inner Fire.

    Also, I ran the Ice staff on my DPS Warden for a while, the trick is to not put points in the top passive in the Destruction Staff tree... of course people still think you take taunt sometimes.
    Xelrick: "Do not mix chaos with madness. It will only lead to unexplored adventures."
  • PurpleDrank
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    frost tank
    Just take the taunt off the staff ok? Taunting with a heavy attack is the worst idea ever.

    Agreed. Would have much rather they put it on Frost Touch/Clench/Reach or something like that.

    Um, you do know about the Undaunted taunt Inner Fire, yes? Already exists.

    I am aware that exists. But we were talking about the taunt attached to Ice staff, not taunts in general. I was merely stating that I would have preferred a taunt to have been added to an ability, such as frost touch, than to have it on heavy attack.
  • lucky_Sage
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    frost mage dd
    I think ice staff makes more since to get it spell pen
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    Stamcro - alt

    AD PS4 NA -retired (PC runs way better to play on console)
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    magden
    magsorc

  • Zimbugga
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    Where is "both" option?

    Both are good if you build them right. Frost mage can be strong and Frost tank can have better resistance than some players' dragonknight tanks.... I have saw this with my own eyes
  • Xoelarasizerer
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    frost tank
    I do enjoy the early on "baby's first ranged taunt" the Ice Staff offers, but do agree it would probably work better as a morph of Frost Touch. There's already destruction frost skills that immobilise enemies, Frost Clench taunting and creating a small damage shield seems like a reasonable swap.
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