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NOW YOU RUINED BATTLEGROUNDS TOO, GREAT!
Crom_CCCXVI
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We are playing in Battlegrounds because CP is stupid, skill less and for scared noobs
Sheild Stacking Sorcs and No Death Builds, that is all it is anymore. Drop a big Ultimate, sheild stack, run away.. it is crap.
and I have 755 CP, but I really don't want to play where the average is a 20 minute fights and no one dies... where people just walk around trolling each other with their no death builds.. where stam builds all suck ... and sheild stacking sorcs are 90% of the population.
DO THE DEVELOPERS EVEN PLAY THE GAME?
I really don't think so, because it was way better the first year, back when people actually were afraid of dying.
Sheild Stacking Sorcs and No Death Builds, that is all it is anymore. Drop a big Ultimate, sheild stack, run away.. it is crap.
and I have 755 CP, but I really don't want to play where the average is a 20 minute fights and no one dies... where people just walk around trolling each other with their no death builds.. where stam builds all suck ... and sheild stacking sorcs are 90% of the population.
DO THE DEVELOPERS EVEN PLAY THE GAME?
I really don't think so, because it was way better the first year, back when people actually were afraid of dying.
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Crom_CCCXVI✭✭✭✭✭and I realize it should be without skill, not skill less... for some reason I can't edit.0
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WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭"Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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I specifically avoided battlegrounds because of the no-cp.
No-cp and small set objectives/groups meant that there were approx 3 builds that were at least 4-5 times more effective there than anything else.
CP will balance that stuff out a bit.Feralclaw - EU - AD
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Timeraider wrote: »I specifically avoided battlegrounds because of the no-cp.
No-cp and small set objectives/groups meant that there were approx 3 builds that were at least 4-5 times more effective there than anything else.
CP will balance that stuff out a bit.
Yeah. CP will greatly balance that out when everyone tanks up just more because of the added resources and the mitigation increase. It's gonna be even more fun seeing people facetank than now.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If only there were some little boxes one could tick in the queue...- No Champion Point Battlegrounds
- Champion Point Battlegrounds
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unsure if you are moaning about the CP shift in BG or if this is a Nerf Sorc thread as its crosses lines a bit. Nerf Sorc threads are dull now, and any reference to shield stacking is QQ rehetoric.
But 100% agree that adding CP is going to change the pace of BG for the worse, and punish those on low CP who can be competitive right now - like an Arcade mode of Cyro.
I'm fine with CP being added, but they should have a No-CP queue also.Xbox One | EU | EP
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ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BG no needs CP , nevermind , I wont play BG , whatever they like to change , wfc !0 -
stevepdodson_ESO888✭✭✭✭✭
✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »
holy cow....i have never seen this one before...i burst out laughing and sprayed coffee over my screen
damn funny
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Jawasa✭✭✭CP or no-cp have nothing to do with skill. It's all a preferance. I play both mostly no CP. This is probably a try to save bg's on consol because no-CP seems very unpoupular there.0
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Timeraider wrote: »I specifically avoided battlegrounds because of the no-cp.
No-cp and small set objectives/groups meant that there were approx 3 builds that were at least 4-5 times more effective there than anything else.
CP will balance that stuff out a bit.
Yeah. CP will greatly balance that out when everyone tanks up just more because of the added resources and the mitigation increase. It's gonna be even more fun seeing people facetank than now.
Exactly, it will actually depend on skill instead of who gets the first crit to make the 2-shot happen.Feralclaw - EU - AD
Khajit Warden - Werewolf Warden
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lvl 50 Templar PvP Healer (Dunmer)
2 lvl 50 Magicka Staff / Stamina / Healer Nightblade's (Khajit/Dunmer)
lvl 50 Magicka Sorcerer (Dunmer)0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Timeraider wrote: »Timeraider wrote: »I specifically avoided battlegrounds because of the no-cp.
No-cp and small set objectives/groups meant that there were approx 3 builds that were at least 4-5 times more effective there than anything else.
CP will balance that stuff out a bit.
Yeah. CP will greatly balance that out when everyone tanks up just more because of the added resources and the mitigation increase. It's gonna be even more fun seeing people facetank than now.
Exactly, it will actually depend on skill instead of who gets the first crit to make the 2-shot happen.
So you are saying the skill comes from CP?
Couldn't the same skill have been used without?0 -
Storymaster✭✭✭✭✭Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »CP is stupid ... and I have 755 CP
I thought the max was 660, soon to be 690 when Clockwork City drops?
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✭✭✭✭✭perma blocking, no death builds exist in nocp too.
you dont see as many roll dodgers though. . .RickterESO
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
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That's the CP you can actually use. But you can gain CP far beyond that cap up to 3600 total. You just can not use more than whatever the current cap is.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
theamazingx✭✭✭✭Storymaster wrote: »Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »CP is stupid ... and I have 755 CP
I thought the max was 660, soon to be 690 when Clockwork City drops?
The point being that he's at cap, emphasizing that he dislikes the net impact on the gameplay, not that he'll be at some disadvantage with the change.0 -
The_Saint✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Storymaster wrote: »Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »CP is stupid ... and I have 755 CP
I thought the max was 660, soon to be 690 when Clockwork City drops?
You can have more cp, but just 660 can be used atm...1 -
Storymaster✭✭✭✭✭Storymaster wrote: »Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »CP is stupid ... and I have 755 CP
I thought the max was 660, soon to be 690 when Clockwork City drops?
You can have more cp, but just 660 can be used atm...
@The_Saint
Great to know. Thanks!
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Another issue is that 3 out of 4 game modes heavily incentivize tanky builds. And even in Deathmatch it's advantageous as long as you coordinate well as group and get your kills through combined pressure on single targets. Can't wait to have more of Chaosball or CTR when CP are introduced and every tank is sitting on the objective for 15 minutes.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭I agree with OP.
The only thing CPs really do is smooth the drawbacks of the builds in the damage, sustain or survivability. You made tanky build w/o damage? Well, CPs will help you to boost it. Ganger with a small number of opportunities for survival? CPs will give you survival and sustain.
Non-CP PVP puts far more difficult conditions. This not only makes the battle more skill-sensitive, but also make it more careful to create a build. Where complexity is there is a fun.Everything is viable0 -
The_Saint✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As i said in the patchnotes thread for me this change to cp bgs is bad.
As a mainly PVE Player i use my CPs for that. Atm i switch my gear and go in BG. After the patch i normaly had to set my cps new for 1-2 rounds bg and than back when raid starts...
Or i can leave cp as pve setup and be ***Edited by The_Saint on September 20, 2017 12:04PM0 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭CP was the worst idea since anything, it is impossible to balance a game with a system like that. I didnt like BGs before, but now I wouldnt touch it with a diseased 10 foot pole.0 -
Pastas✭✭✭Storymaster wrote: »Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »CP is stupid ... and I have 755 CP
I thought the max was 660, soon to be 690 when Clockwork City drops?
Once you reach the cap you can keep earning chapion points, but you can't use them.WARNINGThis post may Include horrible gramatical and orthographic errorsRead on your own riskAD
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Another issue is that 3 out of 4 game modes heavily incentivize tanky builds. And even in Deathmatch it's advantageous as long as you coordinate well as group and get your kills through combined pressure on single targets. Can't wait to have more of Chaosball or CTR when CP are introduced and every tank is sitting on the objective for 15 minutes.
At least ElusiveShady & Co will be happy again.....0 -
Anne_Firehawk✭✭✭✭✭If only there were some little boxes one could tick in the queue...- No Champion Point Battlegrounds
- Champion Point Battlegrounds
LOL, surprised it's not there to be honest. There's no reason to not offer both, CP and noCP.Anne Firehawk | Legate | Bringer of Light | Voice of Reason | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Magicka DK forever
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✭✭✭✭✭I think many people feel that CP is their 'reward' for playing the game... and when they're forced to not use their hard-earned CP, it's a slap in the face.CP: 2105 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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sha-ext✭✭✭The thing is: CP does not offer more variety. I have laid out some reasons here https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4506264#Comment_4506264
and i have not read any counter arguments yet.
I would love to understand the reasoning of the devs to do this.2
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