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Warden Bug or Feature?

Phinix1
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@ZOS_GinaBruno - Would really appreciate some clarification on this one.

Presently the Blue Betty morph of the Warden Netch Betty ability, which is supposed to remove 1 negative effect on cast, will not remove ANY negative effects if there are more than 1 negative effects active on the player when you cast it.

This can be verified by fighting any NPC that puts an effect on you that causes damage over time AND slows.

The DoT and the slow are considered 2 separate effects (even though they are technically only 1 ability) and spam casting Blue Betty any number of times will not remove EITHER effect. This is true for any combination of effects. If there are more than 1 negative effect, NONE are removed.

SUGGESTION: How I personally feel this should work is that casting Blue Betty should always remove the 1 negative effect with the lowest remaining timer.

Please let us know if this is working as intended!
  • Voxicity
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    Yet it's still better than the stamina morph...
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    Warden Bug or Feature?

    I think Warden was supposed to be a feature, they did after all build an entire expansion around it.


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  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Warden Bug or Feature?

    I think Warden was supposed to be a feature, they did after all build an entire expansion around it.


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    clever

    it's all about the punctuation, a bit like the panda one :)
  • Phinix1
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    Warden Bug or Feature?

    I think Warden was supposed to be a feature, they did after all build an entire expansion around it.


    All The Best

    Punctuation is our friend!

    To imply the context you quoted, there would have needed to be some punctuation after 'Warden' to indicate a pause. For example, 'Warden: Bug or Feature' would imply that it was the Warden itself the question was asked about.

    EDIT: I actually like my Warden, but this does feel like a major bug in its features. :p

    Edited by Phinix1 on September 17, 2017 12:39PM
  • scipionumatia
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    I'm keeping my mouth shut cause it's a free skill haha pls don't ever change that!
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  • C0ndor
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    Sometimes if you have more than 2 negative effects you can spam it and none of them will be cleared
  • Phinix1
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    C0ndor wrote: »
    Sometimes if you have more than 2 negative effects you can spam it and none of them will be cleared

    In my testing this is ALL the time, not some of the time.
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    C0ndor wrote: »
    Sometimes if you have more than 2 negative effects you can spam it and none of them will be cleared

    In my testing this is ALL the time, not some of the time.

    Make a video, tag some devs, concrete evidence.
  • Phinix1
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    My health issues prevent me from doing ALL the work for them, but it is certainly an issue and has been reported by many people. It is easy to reproduce:
    • Duel someone.
    • Have them apply multiple dots.
    • Spam Blue Betty.
    • You will see none of them get removed.

    At first I thought it might just be single abilities that apply multiple dots that cause it. Like an NPC ability that applies a bleed AND a slow, but which is technically only 1 SOURCE ability.

    However this doesn't seem to be the case.

    Also, I don't know any devs to tag.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno any news on this one? Can you pass along this napkin?

    Edited by Phinix1 on September 19, 2017 5:11PM
  • rhapsodious
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    Just gonna leave this here:
    Warden, Fixes & Improvements
    • Animal Companions
      • Betty Netch: Reduced the intensity of the visual effects from this ability and its morphs.
      • Blue Betty (Betty Netch morph): Fixed an issue where this morph was not removing a negative effect from you if you had more than one negative effect on you.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371878/pts-patch-notes-v3-2-0-clockwork-city/p1

  • Phinix1
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    @rhapsodious - Thanks, haven't been able to get on the PTS as of yet but that is definitely reassuring to hear.

    I hope they fix the bug with it locking you in combat and with Maturation constantly removing and re-adding minor toughness causing you to never be at full health and preventing Spell Power Cure from working as well.

    But this one was huge for me as with my health condition (Brain Cavernoma with recurring hemorrhagic stroke) this was really keeping me from enjoying or really even playing my Warden much at all.

    Well, aside from fishing. :p
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