Patch note VMA Inferno

  • Krayzie
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    What are people crying about? This is a huge buff.

    You now get the old item effect PLUS you can apply a regular enchantment (like weapon damage).

    The wording isn't great.

    It says item set. Does it mean it's a set of it's own. As in

    1 piece: adds 189 weapon damage & buffs crit rush

    Then I can add an enchant?

    Or is it

    1 piece: crit rush buff

    Then I add enchant?

    It says "no longer adds 189 weapon damage".

    It sounds like a nerf. I use an enchant on my back bar, proc it, then get additional 189 on front bar. So it sounds like a nerf by the way it's written.

    It's 100% a nerf
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  • Kanar
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    What are people crying about? This is a huge buff.

    You now get the old item effect PLUS you can apply a regular enchantment (like weapon damage, shock damage, etc.).

    Heh, "huge buff." So infused no longer boosting the effect (no more infused walls or hails), no 189 WD, for what a 2k disease or shock damage glyph? Everyone was already running a WD glyph on their other weapon. "Huge buff" indeed.
  • Grabmoore
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    Oh boy, I am going to get a lot of shields in the mail... Haha

    Same thought. I deconstructed a couple, but I still have 14 one handed weapons :D
    Edited by Grabmoore on September 18, 2017 8:44PM
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  • timmayyyboy
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    Wait so normal mode msa will have weapon drops added to the loot table?
  • geonsocal
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    Due to the fact these items can now be enchanted or poisoned normally, their extraneous stat bonuses have been removed. For example, the Maelstrom’s Greatsword no longer adds 189 Weapon Damage on top of the modifier to Critical Charge.

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    Precise Regeneration (Maelstrom Resto): Increased the amount of Magicka restored by Regeneration critical heals to 800 from 481. - but, you lose the 688 spell critical buff...

    and, now you can add an "additional" enchantment...
    Edited by geonsocal on September 18, 2017 9:56PM
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  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    Wait so normal mode msa will have weapon drops added to the loot table?

    As far as I can tell maelstrom weapons will still not drop on normal. However weapons for the sets that drop in maelstrom arena like winter born will now drop in normal and vet.
  • cpuScientist
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    Not the new destro staff though is going to be op in PvP. 15% less damage from the enemy and 8% more damage to them along with dot that buffs any fire damage. You have to run the asylum weapon on people in PvP.
  • Izaki
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    So they nerfed them to drop in normal mode....

    What item sets will they be part of? The ones from VMA/d star. If so, they're utterly useless.


    @Brrrofski
    Wut?

    That last part was in Update 15 patch notes.

    vMA, Master and Asylym weapons are their own 1 or 2 piece Item Sets.

    The last part of the developper comment was saying that weapons from the 5 Piece Item sets (like Succession, Winterborn, Archer's Mind, Footman) would drop in the final chests of MA and DSA in blue when on normal and in purple when on veteran.

    So vMA and vDSA weapons aren't tied to any existing Item Sets, they themselves become Item Sets as opposed to simple enchants. :)

    And yes they did get a nerf. However, I'm still pretty sure that having an enchant on top of the skill modifier will be better than what it currently is. I do sincerely hope that they bring back the 189 weapon damage. It would make them a more interesting option, because as of right now, the only 3 weapons that are still better than any item set in PvE combination using just for the Set bonus are: vMA Bow, vMA Staff, Asylym Staff. And most tof them can be used solely on the back bar in PvE.
    In PvP... When you Crit Rush, you will not only deal the 6k DoT damage, but you'll also have a Poison enchant proc... It does seem pretty good. But for the other weapons, they've been for the most part been nerfed by quite a lot, since most people only used those weapons for the additional stats.
    Edited by Izaki on September 18, 2017 10:41PM
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  • Brrrofski
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    So they nerfed them to drop in normal mode....

    What item sets will they be part of? The ones from VMA/d star. If so, they're utterly useless.


    @Brrrofski
    Wut?

    That last part was in Update 15 patch notes.

    vMA, Master and Asylym weapons are their own 1 or 2 piece Item Sets.

    The last part of the developper comment was saying that weapons from the 5 Piece Item sets (like Succession, Winterborn, Archer's Mind, Footman) would drop in the final chests of MA and DSA in blue when on normal and in purple when on veteran.

    So vMA and vDSA weapons aren't tied to any existing Item Sets, they themselves become Item Sets as opposed to simple enchants. :)

    Yeh, I read them again and saw that. No pts (console pleb) and their wording is never the best. So got confused :)
  • Jurand80
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    I was so hyped about retraiting my precise inferno vmsa. it's trash now. time to farm asylum destro. new grind with every patch.
  • Krayzie
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    Jurand80 wrote: »
    I was so hyped about retraiting my precise inferno vmsa. it's trash now. time to farm asylum destro. new grind with every patch.

    I spent last week farming for my nirn battle axe, what a slap in the face
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  • Kneighbors
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    Jurand80 wrote: »
    I was so hyped about retraiting my precise inferno vmsa. it's trash now. time to farm asylum destro. new grind with every patch.

    Without that change vMA would be OP not just interesting choice. 189 SP\WD +348 from glyph? Are you serious?

    And then you would come and say "Asylum is just a junk, another piece of garbage, like we didn't have enough before!"

    Just look through my threads, mostly I criticize ZoS and their nerfs... But here? Only the real whiners would complain about it. Whiners that would complain all the time anyway. That's why no one will take you seriously.
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