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vMA obligatory rage post. WHY, ZOS, WHY?!

Dantaria
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And. Still. Not. A. SINGLE. Lightning. Staff.

I farmed it enough for accidental Flawless Conquerer run. I didn't mean to. Made pauses for smoking and chating with guildies and on 8th arena realized, 'Wait. I didn't die yet. Okay, let's see if I can manage Flawless'. Well, I can manage Flawless. But not getting Lightning Staff.

It's clearly l2p issue. I need to git gud in RNG.

Any advice from experience players? I think my build for praying RNGesus is wrong :( Help?
English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • letsdothedungeonslow
    I agree it's completely pathetic. I'm resigned to having NOT BiS now and making the most of what I can get.

    VMA farming is sheer masochism for so many people.

    I'd just give up, if I were you
  • MLGProPlayer
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    I love it when the kid who ran it like 3 times and died over 400 times but got lucky and got their weapon comes in to say "the system is fine".

    Fortunately, re-traiting is just around the corner! The odds of getting a lightning staff aren't that bad, so I'm sure you'll get there soon.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 18, 2017 10:10PM
  • Dantaria
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    I agree it's completely pathetic. I'm resigned to having NOT BiS now and making the most of what I can get.

    VMA farming is sheer masochism for so many people.

    I'd just give up, if I were you
    Fortunately, re-traiting is just around the corner! The odds of getting a lightning staff aren't that bad, so I'm sure you'll get there soon.
    Exactly!

    The truth is - only the announcement of Transmutation system was the reason I went there for farming. I did complete in in Morrowind 3 times, got lucky on 3rd - Inferno Sharpened, which was nerfed 1 week later :D But... I honestly saw more good in just going and leveling magDK.

    The system as it is now is abysmal - chances of getting the right weapon are so abysmally low, I see 0 point in trying.

    But Transmutation... I went there. I went there with all the hope in the world... 2 weeks later - Flawless Conquerer and literally everything but Lightning Staff :D:D:D

    Yeah... SIlly me forgot that one little detail... To Transmute a weapon you need to have a weapon :D:D:D

    Still though. All hail Transmutation system! It honestly makes running vMA meaningful. Without it it's just so worthless, I have no words for it.
    Edited by Dantaria on September 18, 2017 10:21PM
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • Kneighbors
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    Wow, you are good. I think every player who spammed flawlessly 30k necropotence shield every 6 seconds must get automatically all the weapons he wishes from ZoS.
  • Vapirko
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    Just wait until after next patch to keep farming vma staff.
  • Dantaria
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    Kneighbors wrote: »
    Wow, you are good. I think every player who spammed flawlessly 30k necropotence shield every 6 seconds must get automatically all the weapons he wishes from ZoS.
    30k? If only. Even Hardened Ward doesn't give that and I had long ago sticked to Empowered, because 8 secs beat 6. And on 9th arena I prefer good old Harness, because last boss is what it is. But something gives me an impression that you're not here for constructive discussion about Flawless on sorcs in HotR :trollface:

    Spamming shields does not make you Flawless, spamming shields makes you dead. Idiotic AI of pets doesn't help much also.

    Flawless is easier for sorcs than it is for everyone else, it would be stupid to deny it. But if sorcs were that mythic "auto-win" everyone is just sooo convinced they are, every sorc would be Flawless. Well... That's not what I see. Especially - in HotR.
    English isn't my native, apologies for any mistakes.
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    Dantaria wrote: »
    Kneighbors wrote: »
    Wow, you are good. I think every player who spammed flawlessly 30k necropotence shield every 6 seconds must get automatically all the weapons he wishes from ZoS.
    30k? If only. Even Hardened Ward doesn't give that and I had long ago sticked to Empowered, because 8 secs beat 6. And on 9th arena I prefer good old Harness, because last boss is what it is. But something gives me an impression that you're not here for constructive discussion about Flawless on sorcs in HotR :trollface:

    Spamming shields does not make you Flawless, spamming shields makes you dead. Idiotic AI of pets doesn't help much also.

    Flawless is easier for sorcs than it is for everyone else, it would be stupid to deny it. But if sorcs were that mythic "auto-win" everyone is just sooo convinced they are, every sorc would be Flawless. Well... That's not what I see. Especially - in HotR.

    Every mag sorc who ever beat VMA these days is flawless cause it's faceroll on it, same with stam sorc.

    Regarding RNG well maybe the new weapons will overshadow VMA weapons and become BiS
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
  • BigBadVolk
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    well for me lightning stave took at least 2 month to get:D but it really depends on rngesus and his favoritism :D
    "The ass is similar to the opinion: Everyone has it, but no one cares about the others!"
    I'm 120 years old
  • Cage_Lizardman
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    I've done it a couple dozen times, got three lightning staffs in precise, nirn and defending. I guess I've been lucky. Haven't got flawless yet, I think my best run was 3 deaths.

    Doing it with a stam warden rather than the sorc seems to get me a lot more staffs, even if mostly charged ice. Also can't fail to get on the leaderboards with a warden, I never did that with the sorc.
  • isthatujonwayne
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    what difference does it make having flawless as to whether or not u get a good drop. there's a lot of weapons to get, just keep going if u want 1 that bad. I had 7 sharp inferno staffs many moons ago. never had 1 dagger. such is life
  • Sylphex
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    If you're flawless, good chance that you also might have made the leaderboards, in which case, enjoy your gold drop delivered in the mail. That's all the help you need. I'm 130 runs in, no vMA lightning either.
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    Sylphex wrote: »
    If you're flawless, good chance that you also might have made the leaderboards, in which case, enjoy your gold drop delivered in the mail. That's all the help you need. I'm 130 runs in, no vMA lightning either.

    Not true in case of EU Sorcerer leaderboards. In a strong week with many participants, the bottom line of the weekly leaderboard is 540k.

    OP said that when he did flawless, it was with smoking and chatting pauses. I am more than sure he didn't make it to leaderboards that way.
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    Sylphex wrote: »
    If you're flawless, good chance that you also might have made the leaderboards, in which case, enjoy your gold drop delivered in the mail. That's all the help you need. I'm 130 runs in, no vMA lightning either.

    Not true in case of EU Sorcerer leaderboards. In a strong week with many participants, the bottom line of the weekly leaderboard is 540k.

    OP said that when he did flawless, it was with smoking and chatting pauses. I am more than sure he didn't make it to leaderboards that way.

    Sorcerer and nightblade are the classes at the moment who´s the toughest to get on the leader boards with (At least on PC/EU). The lowest score on sorc is somewhere between 520-540k. Nightblade is roughly the same. Templar, dragonknight and warden is ridiculously easy to get on the leaderboard with. You barely have to try...
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Sylphex wrote: »
    If you're flawless, good chance that you also might have made the leaderboards, in which case, enjoy your gold drop delivered in the mail. That's all the help you need. I'm 130 runs in, no vMA lightning either.

    Not true in case of EU Sorcerer leaderboards. In a strong week with many participants, the bottom line of the weekly leaderboard is 540k.

    OP said that when he did flawless, it was with smoking and chatting pauses. I am more than sure he didn't make it to leaderboards that way.

    Sorcerer and nightblade are the classes at the moment who´s the toughest to get on the leader boards with (At least on PC/EU). The lowest score on sorc is somewhere between 520-540k. Nightblade is roughly the same. Templar, dragonknight and warden is ridiculously easy to get on the leaderboard with. You barely have to try...

    I participate in all except Warden leaderboards every week. Based on my observations from last weeks, NB bottom line is 20-30k lower than the one of Sorcs. 520k is usualy enough to safely stay in NB leaderboard. But you will most probably won't stay in Sorc leaderboard with 520k.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on September 19, 2017 11:37AM
  • Cage_Lizardman
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Sylphex wrote: »
    If you're flawless, good chance that you also might have made the leaderboards, in which case, enjoy your gold drop delivered in the mail. That's all the help you need. I'm 130 runs in, no vMA lightning either.

    Not true in case of EU Sorcerer leaderboards. In a strong week with many participants, the bottom line of the weekly leaderboard is 540k.

    OP said that when he did flawless, it was with smoking and chatting pauses. I am more than sure he didn't make it to leaderboards that way.

    Sorcerer and nightblade are the classes at the moment who´s the toughest to get on the leader boards with (At least on PC/EU). The lowest score on sorc is somewhere between 520-540k. Nightblade is roughly the same. Templar, dragonknight and warden is ridiculously easy to get on the leaderboard with. You barely have to try...

    You just have to finish it, warden leaderboards are not even half full. You can even see some scores as low as 3-400. I guess people do that for laughs by taking every sigil in every round?

    Not that warden is particularly easy, their self-heals are nothing special compared to surge.
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