To all folks who say Mag Warden is terribad and awful
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lucky_Sage✭✭✭✭✭
If that were actually true, Cyrodiil would be full of them.. because.. FOTM is what people play.
Not saying they're bad... but they're a weaker sorc basically.
Sorry just to correct you here it takes a lot of time to re roll a toon and a lot of people don't want to do that when they already have several at max level that they play. Contrast that to gear fotm which is much easier to obtain. So suffice to say I don't agree
it took me about 3 weeks and over to of that was questing so not long at all if I wasn't questing it would have took a couple days and I'm not a good grinder like some people it takes half the time as meDC PC NA
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Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, they're not easy to use. If you're not good you won't be able to do anything with them......0 -
Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭lucky_Sage wrote: »
If that were actually true, Cyrodiil would be full of them.. because.. FOTM is what people play.
Not saying they're bad... but they're a weaker sorc basically.
Sorry just to correct you here it takes a lot of time to re roll a toon and a lot of people don't want to do that when they already have several at max level that they play. Contrast that to gear fotm which is much easier to obtain. So suffice to say I don't agree
it took me about 3 weeks and over to of that was questing so not long at all if I wasn't questing it would have took a couple days and I'm not a good grinder like some people it takes half the time as me
By my measure 3 weeks is a really long time
We are from different planets0 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
✭in a 1v1 a magwarden completely shut down a magsorc and magblade with crystallized shards which also give them major heroism.Betty netch purges curse and nothing a regular none pet sorc sorc has nothing to kill them with.Magwarden just absorb everything a magblade have. They also have a AOe major defile that can be spammed and breaks cloak and keeps stamnb,stamsorc,stamdk from healing.It also had something else a magplar has to purge more a magplar have to purge the quicker they run out of magica and can't heal.Since the betty netch is a pet they can run nerco and have a 10k shield while having multiple HOT going and access to minor evasion and major expedition Also have a spammable that deals more damage then surprise attack and is undodgeable.Not to mentioned I have hit players with 8k shalks through block in no cp and it ignore terrain. Top tier 1v1 class
Small group provide multiple HOT to keep their group mates alive,Cheap healing ultimate and a EOTS ability that also provide Major protection for the team,coordinating bomb is so helpful and cliff racer allow them to clean up any stam builds still alive.Not to mentioned a AOE defile that heal debuffs the group you're bombing Give the entire group major resloce and ward which frees up slots.Magwarden a must have in small group and tanky as hell.
Large group pvp there a most have everything they provide in small scale they provide in large scale fights and scale very well.HOT,major defile,frees up slots and provide major protection what's not bring a magwarden.
Magwarden just isn't great solo but that's all magic class they don't do well solo,Stam preforms a bit better but solo just sucks all around now.ZOS has killed it.If you want to play solo and not be mad while playing I highly recommend playing another game.
Magwarden strong as hell in pvp if you know what the hell you're doing and even then just spam birds and heal you do pretty good zerg surfing.They have strong burst crushing shock,clirff racer shalk hits hard asf probably kill most meduim armor builds with that combo alone.Magblade and magsorc can't kill you,Magdk can't burst you and magplar magplar pretty even imo.Only thing that can kill you in a 1v1 is a pet sorc and they are just broken asf and kill everyone.
If you think magwarden bad in pvp you need to l2p the game and aim your shalks which is easy as hell to do.2 -
WreckfulAbandon✭✭✭✭✭
✭in a 1v1 a magwarden completely shut down a magsorc and magblade with crystallized shards which also give them major heroism.Betty netch purges curse and nothing a regular none pet sorc sorc has nothing to kill them with.Magwarden just absorb everything a magblade have. They also have a AOe major defile that can be spammed and breaks cloak and keeps stamnb,stamsorc,stamdk from healing.It also had something else a magplar has to purge more a magplar have to purge the quicker they run out of magica and can't heal.Since the betty netch is a pet they can run nerco and have a 10k shield while having multiple HOT going and access to minor evasion and major expedition Also have a spammable that deals more damage then surprise attack and is undodgeable.Not to mentioned I have hit players with 8k shalks through block in no cp and it ignore terrain. Top tier 1v1 class
Small group provide multiple HOT to keep their group mates alive,Cheap healing ultimate and a EOTS ability that also provide Major protection for the team,coordinating bomb is so helpful and cliff racer allow them to clean up any stam builds still alive.Not to mentioned a AOE defile that heal debuffs the group you're bombing Give the entire group major resloce and ward which frees up slots.Magwarden a must have in small group and tanky as hell.
Large group pvp there a most have everything they provide in small scale they provide in large scale fights and scale very well.HOT,major defile,frees up slots and provide major protection what's not bring a magwarden.
Magwarden just isn't great solo but that's all magic class they don't do well solo,Stam preforms a bit better but solo just sucks all around now.ZOS has killed it.If you want to play solo and not be mad while playing I highly recommend playing another game.
Magwarden strong as hell in pvp if you know what the hell you're doing and even then just spam birds and heal you do pretty good zerg surfing.They have strong burst crushing shock,clirff racer shalk hits hard asf probably kill most meduim armor builds with that combo alone.Magblade and magsorc can't kill you,Magdk can't burst you and magplar magplar pretty even imo.Only thing that can kill you in a 1v1 is a pet sorc and they are just broken asf and kill everyone.
If you think magwarden bad in pvp you need to l2p the game and aim your shalks which is easy as hell to do.
And then there is of course the stamwarden, which makes magwarden look as weak as all these PvEers try to make it out to look.PC NA
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KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
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Yea stamwarden is a monster.WreckfulAbandon wrote: »in a 1v1 a magwarden completely shut down a magsorc and magblade with crystallized shards which also give them major heroism.Betty netch purges curse and nothing a regular none pet sorc sorc has nothing to kill them with.Magwarden just absorb everything a magblade have. They also have a AOe major defile that can be spammed and breaks cloak and keeps stamnb,stamsorc,stamdk from healing.It also had something else a magplar has to purge more a magplar have to purge the quicker they run out of magica and can't heal.Since the betty netch is a pet they can run nerco and have a 10k shield while having multiple HOT going and access to minor evasion and major expedition Also have a spammable that deals more damage then surprise attack and is undodgeable.Not to mentioned I have hit players with 8k shalks through block in no cp and it ignore terrain. Top tier 1v1 class
Small group provide multiple HOT to keep their group mates alive,Cheap healing ultimate and a EOTS ability that also provide Major protection for the team,coordinating bomb is so helpful and cliff racer allow them to clean up any stam builds still alive.Not to mentioned a AOE defile that heal debuffs the group you're bombing Give the entire group major resloce and ward which frees up slots.Magwarden a must have in small group and tanky as hell.
Large group pvp there a most have everything they provide in small scale they provide in large scale fights and scale very well.HOT,major defile,frees up slots and provide major protection what's not bring a magwarden.
Magwarden just isn't great solo but that's all magic class they don't do well solo,Stam preforms a bit better but solo just sucks all around now.ZOS has killed it.If you want to play solo and not be mad while playing I highly recommend playing another game.
Magwarden strong as hell in pvp if you know what the hell you're doing and even then just spam birds and heal you do pretty good zerg surfing.They have strong burst crushing shock,clirff racer shalk hits hard asf probably kill most meduim armor builds with that combo alone.Magblade and magsorc can't kill you,Magdk can't burst you and magplar magplar pretty even imo.Only thing that can kill you in a 1v1 is a pet sorc and they are just broken asf and kill everyone.
If you think magwarden bad in pvp you need to l2p the game and aim your shalks which is easy as hell to do.
And then there is of course the stamwarden, which makes magwarden look as weak as all these PvEers try to make it out to look.0 -
C0ndor✭✭cpuScientist wrote: »cpuScientist wrote: »I think those claiming magWarden OP have got to be newer.
They are good in groups for their tree. Honestly the whole entire class is only used because of that damned tree. People claim it's a good tank cause of the tree, claim they are good heals cause of the tree and claim they are op in PvP cause of the tree.
The tree is not gonna be used in trials so they are really only good heals/tank in 4 man's, and in a 4 man if rather the healer use resto ult as it gives a DPS bonus.
In PvP a magicka warden is basically a shotgun, has to load up that 3 second burst. Plenty of time to recover. I played mine extensively and they were crappier sorcs.
But seriously with stamDK, stamBlade, magSorc, heck even MagPlar and stamSorc... People are actually claiming magWarden to be OP over all of these listed a magWarden is the big shot... Just ****ing LOL.
Please bring back the button ZOS
Is not more op than others, but the shotgun in small scale can be used very well against bows and arrows
Warden needs a buff if u just look the solo play or the duels
So it's good against bow users? Medium users? And timed ulti bombs with a friend can do the same with any 2 classes. Magblades have been doing it by themselves for ages no help needed.
They are fine, I've used mine to great success. But while they have a shotgun. Other classes have bazooka's and ak47's.
Cmon dude was a joke. Warden are far from being best class for solo pvp but are really strong in group pvp bringing nice off heals debuff sand huge burst aoe in a way that others don't . There is some good solo player but are pretty rare. Is the best for solo? No. Best for duels? No
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