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Mureel
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So I finally get on after long day no internet but my phone and, use the finder, rando Vet Dungeon....Do the First Boss Fungal Grotto, (165 DD, 68 DD 440stth tank, I am 681 healer) the tank leaves group after first boss, I say, no worries, just chill and we'll get through it...Q for replacement tank - DD makes ME party lead and says: I'm going for a smoke and a drink be back in 10-15 mins....
EXCUSE ME? xD I Say: Oh well call me if you need a healer - and BAM I get penalty for queuing too short time ago and cannot requeue!
'Why don't people use the FINNNDERRRR!? DDs have to wait SO LONG!'
Well we're in the penalty box for going wait what? When a DD leaves for a coffee break mid dungeon xD lollerlol I can't even this Finder xD
EXCUSE ME? xD I Say: Oh well call me if you need a healer - and BAM I get penalty for queuing too short time ago and cannot requeue!
'Why don't people use the FINNNDERRRR!? DDs have to wait SO LONG!'
Well we're in the penalty box for going wait what? When a DD leaves for a coffee break mid dungeon xD lollerlol I can't even this Finder xD
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SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭lol what did you expect? fungal 1 is an absolute joke on vet, u can skip so much and its short too.
and i suggest doing randoms on normal, same exp and a lot faster1 -
imenace✭✭✭i only use group finder for farming *** and the DD's in there are a *** nightmare.. something like 90% of them are only bow users that only spam light attacks or snipe..5 -
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It's ancient history compared to MMO grouping tools we can find now
It seems pretty easy for me to make it work, but despite hundreds of threads about this, it has never been addressed.... so meh0 -
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✭i only use group finder for farming *** and the DD's in there are a *** nightmare.. something like 90% of them are only bow users that only spam light attacks or snipe..
This. This. This ^^^^Xbox one EU
8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
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✭I was farming earlier with 2 ppl on vet, one free DPS slot.
In about 10 different runs DPS CP was roughly:56, 86, 98, 170, 176, 185, 192, 208, 256, 302.
I kid you not every single DPS was atrocious at DPS - at best was 10k sustained damaged.
0 AOE damage.
Laughable and yes this was a vet dungeon.
I now refer to low DPS players as fake DDs.Xbox one EU
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✭✭✭✭✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »I was farming earlier with 2 ppl on vet, one free DPS slot.
In about 10 different runs DPS CP was roughly:56, 86, 98, 170, 176, 185, 192, 208, 256, 302.
I kid you not every single DPS was atrocious at DPS - at best was 10k sustained damaged.
0 AOE damage.
Laughable and yes this was a vet dungeon.
I now refer to low DPS players as fake DDs.
They could be Tickle Dealers :-D1 -
FloppyTouch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.Edited by FloppyTouch on September 15, 2017 4:42AM0 -
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✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
This is true. This is also why the meta, in all MMOs, is for healers to do the bare minimum to keep a group alive and spend the rest of the time DPSing.
But people still have a mindset of tanks get hit by everything, healers just heal them, DPS kill things.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
This was not proof that healers hold back a group.
It wasn't that the player was a healer that is the problem. It was the fact he or she wasn't breaking free of her move and allowing the boss to heal. That would have been an impediment to the group no matter what role they were.Edited by Jeremy on September 15, 2017 5:18AM3 -
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✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
Wut? WUT? Because 1 healer couldn't handle a mechanic... you say that all healers are useless? Cool story though...
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✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
Wut? WUT? Because 1 healer couldn't handle a mechanic... you say that all healers are useless? Cool story though...
That's just one example in almost all dungeons it's the same they hold back the group no need for heals 3 dps and a tank makes things go faster. Healers standing in the back spaming orbs and springs lowers dps and slows things down.
Also it was not just the fact that the healer held pack the group but more so the fact that after the healer left group no heals were needed. I say that's huge proof healers are not needed.Edited by FloppyTouch on September 15, 2017 6:42AM0 -
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✭FloppyTouch wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
Wut? WUT? Because 1 healer couldn't handle a mechanic... you say that all healers are useless? Cool story though...
That's just one example in almost all dungeons it's the same they hold back the group no need for heals 3 dps and a tank makes things go faster. Healers standing in the back spaming orbs and springs lowers dps and slows things down.
I'm all for 3 dps group, but why tank can't heal others? Tank and healer should be one role.
Healers can also tank by slotting ranged taunt and heal any damage received.
Or like my build now, a decent magplar dps who has 2k regen and slot breath of life and shards, and que as a healer, but actually I dps and heal. So in dungeon finder we got 1 tank and 3 dps basically. Try that and you'll always be playing with 3 dps.Pc na0 -
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✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
Wut? WUT? Because 1 healer couldn't handle a mechanic... you say that all healers are useless? Cool story though...
It is true too though that giving so many self heals rather sucks. Makes DPS think more of themselves than they ought.....plus LOL Direfrost.1 -
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✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
This was not proof that healers hold back a group.
It wasn't that the player was a healer that is the problem. It was the fact he or she wasn't breaking free of her move and allowing the boss to heal. That would have been an impediment to the group no matter what role they were.
As I said in the last post not just the fact the healer not breaking free was an issue but after the healer left the heals themselves where not needed. I say that's huge proof healers are not needed.
Only place for a healer with the way the game is designed is trials and huge scale pvp. Not healers fault it's the game and the fact that every class has class heals or shields or a way to get health back with healing abilities.
In other mmos dps wouldn't have healing abilities(all the ones I played) so a healer was needed for everything.0 -
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✭✭✭lol what did you expect? fungal 1 is an absolute joke on vet, u can skip so much and its short too.
and i suggest doing randoms on normal, same exp and a lot faster
Was FG2. Not 1 - and to whoever said neh neh healers, lol if I weren't there, this whole group would have wiped several times. They tried their best to wipe xD1 -
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✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
This was not proof that healers hold back a group.
It wasn't that the player was a healer that is the problem. It was the fact he or she wasn't breaking free of her move and allowing the boss to heal. That would have been an impediment to the group no matter what role they were.
As I said in the last post not just the fact the healer not breaking free was an issue but after the healer left the heals themselves where not needed. I say that's huge proof healers are not needed.
Only place for a healer with the way the game is designed is trials and huge scale pvp. Not healers fault it's the game and the fact that every class has class heals or shields or a way to get health back with healing abilities.
In other mmos dps wouldn't have healing abilities(all the ones I played) so a healer was needed for everything.
Yeeah I remember the Huge tons of whining that brought self heals about. This game did not always have so many.
Also, I wouldn't personally use Direnoob as any example though.1 -
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✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
This was not proof that healers hold back a group.
It wasn't that the player was a healer that is the problem. It was the fact he or she wasn't breaking free of her move and allowing the boss to heal. That would have been an impediment to the group no matter what role they were.
As I said in the last post not just the fact the healer not breaking free was an issue but after the healer left the heals themselves where not needed. I say that's huge proof healers are not needed.
Only place for a healer with the way the game is designed is trials and huge scale pvp. Not healers fault it's the game and the fact that every class has class heals or shields or a way to get health back with healing abilities.
In other mmos dps wouldn't have healing abilities(all the ones I played) so a healer was needed for everything.
Yeeah I remember the Huge tons of whining that brought self heals about. This game did not always have so many.
Also, I wouldn't personally use Direnoob as any example though.
It was just the dungeon of the day we two man it before yes it's easy if people know to break free and save stam. My point was it was funny that the issue of the group said we where the issue but we three man it with a less then perfect group and no healer.
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✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Ran Vet direfrost 400cp healer warden 170cp dd stam sorc and a 400cp warden tank and my 660 mdk dd.
The healer was terrible the tank was okay other dd was horrible but listen very well. We get to the last boss I tell every to brake free asap for she heals fast. Well only one that could not break free every damn time was the healer making it very painful to go from 20% health to 60-70% health. The healer blames bad dps and tank not holding boss(typical healers)
After 2 long and very annoying tries the healer rage quits saying we are all trash. I told the guys we don't need a healer they are pointless in 90% of the game. We kill the boss very fast no deaths at all everyone broke free and it went so well.
I prefer to not run with a healer at all I feel they are just a waste of a slot with all the self heals in the game they are just not needed. This was proof that healers hold back a group. I will take 3 dd at any cp and a good tank over a 660 healer.
I wish we could set up group finder to not need certain roles.
This was not proof that healers hold back a group.
It wasn't that the player was a healer that is the problem. It was the fact he or she wasn't breaking free of her move and allowing the boss to heal. That would have been an impediment to the group no matter what role they were.
As I said in the last post not just the fact the healer not breaking free was an issue but after the healer left the heals themselves where not needed. I say that's huge proof healers are not needed.
Only place for a healer with the way the game is designed is trials and huge scale pvp. Not healers fault it's the game and the fact that every class has class heals or shields or a way to get health back with healing abilities.
In other mmos dps wouldn't have healing abilities(all the ones I played) so a healer was needed for everything.
Yeeah I remember the Huge tons of whining that brought self heals about. This game did not always have so many.
Also, I wouldn't personally use Direnoob as any example though.
It was just the dungeon of the day we two man it before yes it's easy if people know to break free and save stam. My point was it was funny that the issue of the group said we where the issue but we three man it with a less then perfect group and no healer.
Yeah well some healers do that. If it was a non bad healer, then they would have had CP down, Blockade Lightning on Boss and DPSing too if people weren't trying to kill themselves.
It's like how some DPS pull the whole room and then blame the healer xD0 -
sdtlc✭✭✭✭✭@FloppyTouch
Your basicly taking a 10 minute fight to make a qualified decision about the way the game was designed.
Good job, why won't ZoS hire you, so we all can enjoy your superior skills?Edited by sdtlc on September 15, 2017 7:15AMDie Qualität verhält sich nicht zwingend proportional zur Masse...
Meisterangler vor dem perfekten Rogen...
+Kaiserstadt, Wrothgar, Hew's Fluch, Goldküste, Vvardenfell, Stadt der Uhrwerke, Sommersend, Artaeum, Trübmoor, Elsweyr (nördliches & südliches), Graumoor, Reik, Dunkelforst
[PC][DC]Zunft der Helden[PvX]
Feierabendgilde mit Ambitionen1 -
sdtlc✭✭✭✭✭not you @Mureel , sry haded him/her/it up
Die Qualität verhält sich nicht zwingend proportional zur Masse...
Meisterangler vor dem perfekten Rogen...
+Kaiserstadt, Wrothgar, Hew's Fluch, Goldküste, Vvardenfell, Stadt der Uhrwerke, Sommersend, Artaeum, Trübmoor, Elsweyr (nördliches & südliches), Graumoor, Reik, Dunkelforst
[PC][DC]Zunft der Helden[PvX]
Feierabendgilde mit Ambitionen0 -
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Your basicly taking a 10 minute fight to make a qualified decision about the way the game was designed.
Good job, why won't ZoS hire you, so we all can enjoy your superior skills?
Lol ur funny I'm talking about every 4 man vet dungeon.0 -
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✭Group finder lols?
K, how about when it decides to put people under cp160 into stuff like vICP/vWGT/vCoS/vRoMPC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer1 -
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✭LadyLavina wrote: »Group finder lols?
K, how about when it decides to put people under cp160 into stuff like vICP/vWGT/vCoS/vRoM
Thats zos trolling you0 -
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✭LadyLavina wrote: »Group finder lols?
K, how about when it decides to put people under cp160 into stuff like vICP/vWGT/vCoS/vRoM
Thats zos trolling you
how many crowns to make it stop
PC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer0 -
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✭LadyLavina wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »Group finder lols?
K, how about when it decides to put people under cp160 into stuff like vICP/vWGT/vCoS/vRoM
Thats zos trolling you
how many crowns to make it stop
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✭✭✭LadyLavina wrote: »Group finder lols?
K, how about when it decides to put people under cp160 into stuff like vICP/vWGT/vCoS/vRoM
That's my favourite! And then zinnnnnnnnnnngPEWWWWW!
I cry.0
