Let's assume tes 6 will never happen, would eso cover the world outside of tamriel?

Yarlenzey · September 2017

Good.

I spent too much money on this one.

RupzSkooma · September 2017

exeeter702 wrote: »

Cd projekt red's cyberpunk is the last vestige of hope i have in a big budget rpg without the compromise of attracting the largest target demographic as possible.

I respectfully disagree with your last point .
CD projekt's take on RPG is way too different and not my cup of tea . Witcher 3 is a great game but not a good RPG . Kinda like Fallout 4 except Fallout 4 is not a great game .

Here are the problems with Witcher 3 .

1) The world is static and unimmersive .
:- Everything in the game is beautifully handcrafted and scripted which is great for the look and first playthrough but for me it is unimmersive .
There is no dynamicity in the world . Like complex NPC schedule , animal food chain and schedule , dynamic battles , radiant quests and etc .

2)Not as mod friendly .
Well Witcher 3 is not as mod friendly as any of the ES title . So the game stopped evolving already .

3)Lack of RPing elements
How many characters can you role play in Witcher 3 ?
No factions or relation among those factions.
Nothing like Karma system.
It's role playing elements are even lesser than Fallout 4 's.
Though CD projekt nailed choices and consequences .

Witcher 3 is a great game but it is also not a good RPG .
But CD projekt as a company should be worshipped by Bethesda at least 20 times a day . :P

Mureel · September 2017

Let's NOT EVER IMAGINE THAT! OMG!

Blasphemer.

maboleth · September 2017

TheMaster wrote: »

I'd rather not imagine such a horrible scenario at all. If they said there wasn't going to be a TESVI, I'd immediately cancel my ESO subscription and uninstall this mediocrity from computer. I only play this in anticipation for TESVI.

Such an arrogant comment. It says more about you than the game. Not having anything better to do in life than paying, subscribing and playing this "mediocrity" while waiting for another ES game. sigh.

Jade1986 · September 2017

Rupz_Koomar wrote: »

Will cancel my subscription . And uninstall ESO from my PC . I am playing this below average game just to wait for TES VI.
I am thankful for Zenimax for making this game because it made waiting for TES VI easier along with Mods in Modrim .
Beside ESO is not probably as profitable as you think it is .
Yes MMO can be more profitable than SP game but not ESO.
Am pretty sure they will be making more profit on Modrim than this game in the end .
Meanwhile I hope this game doesn't ever die either , I think ESO can be a good companion game for TES 6 .
But me along with most ES fan may want this game to die fast only if TES 6 can come faster because of that .

This game has already won best mmo and business model for 2 years now I believe. It is incredibly popular. EU PC every zone is filled with people , cyro campaigns are mostly full at peak times every day , almost all day on weekends. Even during summer times the game is packed to the brim. IMO this game is far less mediocre than fo4, and it is on par with skyrim. Even if skyrim was quite epic, the combat system was far FAR too dumbed down for my, and many peoples tastes . FO4 was even worse. I love this game, and the only thing that really irks me about it, is the addon community, turning it into some carebear handholding bastardized version of the game. This game is available on pc, mac, ps4 and xb1 , ZoS is making TONS of money off of it. And with how awesome Morrowind and Orsinium were, clearly the ZoS team is learning from their mistakes and improving exponentially. While there are still a lot of lingering bugs ( cyro load screen is the best example ) and a lot of annoying quirks ( netch jesus beam being visible while in stealth ) this game is ever evolving. Mods are great and all for skyrim, but once you played it for a certain amount of time, its like adding salt or tobasco sauce to a meal you ate for 1 year straight. It makes it better for a short time, but its still the same old thing over and over. And the fact that people complain about the dlc lengths in this game just makes me laugh, because the dlc lengths in skyrim were inCREDIBLY short, and they didnt even finish the story line, they just left it.

RupzSkooma · September 2017

laced wrote: »

IMO this game is far less mediocre than fo4, and it is on par with skyrim.

Fallout 4 is a mediocre RPG. But saying Fallout 4 is worse than a MMO that is theme park style doesn't make sense .
I still won't say that your opinion is wrong .
But you do represent a neglegible minority of the community .
I mean there are people who hate Modrim but saying ESO on par with Skyrim is never heard of .
If you don't believe me , write your comment on any ES subreddit or any ES related YouTube video (including ESO videos) or steam community or other gaming forum and you will get the idea .
I definitely enjoy ESO more than Fallout 4 but that is because I am a fan of ES and not because Fallout 4 is inferior in a single element than ESO .
ESO being an MMO cannot ever be an Immersive game .

Jade1986 · September 2017

Rupz_Koomar wrote: »

laced wrote: »

IMO this game is far less mediocre than fo4, and it is on par with skyrim.

Fallout 4 is a mediocre RPG. But saying Fallout 4 is worse than a MMO that is theme park style doesn't make sense .
I still won't say that your opinion is wrong .
But you do represent a neglegible minority of the community .
I mean there are people who hate Modrim but saying ESO on par with Skyrim is never heard of .
If you don't believe me , write your comment on any ES subreddit or any ES related YouTube video (including ESO videos) or steam community or other gaming forum and you will get the idea .
I definitely enjoy ESO more than Fallout 4 but that is because I am a fan of ES and not because Fallout 4 is inferior in a single element than ESO .

Just because the majority like something, doesn't make it so. I respect your opinion, and others opinions. But majority doesnt equate to fact all the time. As the critics said about Skyrim, and there were actually a lot, it was 10 miles wide and 1 inch deep. ESO imo is about 5 miles wide and 1 mile deep.

RupzSkooma · September 2017

laced wrote: »

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Just because the majority like something, doesn't make it so. I respect your opinion, and others opinions. But majority doesnt equate to fact all the time.

I think the reason we cannot agree is because we like different genre and so the fans of MMORPG (theme park style , WoW) will like ESO more for sure . Most of the ES fans are are SPRPG and an Immersive world fan.
I can tell you 1000 of reasons why MMORPGs fall short of SPRPGs.
Skyrim still has average concurrent gamer on Steam of 30,000.So a lot more like me doesn't get bored playing Modrim.
The DLCs are shorter for Skyrim is because they are more detailed . There are a lot of boring quests in ESO (Hundreds of similar quests).

Jade1986 · September 2017

Rupz_Koomar wrote: »

laced wrote: »

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Just because the majority like something, doesn't make it so. I respect your opinion, and others opinions. But majority doesnt equate to fact all the time.

I think the reason we cannot agree is because we like different genre and so the fans of MMORPG (theme park style , WoW) will like ESO more for sure . Most of the ES fans are are SPRPG and an Immersive world fan.
I can tell you 1000 of reasons why MMORPGs fall short of SPRPGs.
Skyrim still has average concurrent gamer on Steam of 30,000.So a lot more like me doesn't get bored playing Modrim.
The DLCs are shorter for Skyrim is because they are more detailed . There are a lot of boring quests in ESO .

I love SPRPGs , but Skyrim was not an RPG imo, it was an action adventure game with rpg elements. Oblivion was an RPG, morrowind was an RPG, skyrim not so much. Mass effect 1 and 2 were rpgs, Dragon age too. Now a days Games that were rpgs tend to go the route of action adventure. As an action adventure game skyrim was good, but its rpg elements were lacking to say the least. Im struggling to think of a single question in skyrim where you had a choice between one or 2 things....at least, even if the choices are superficial, we have some in ESO. As for the DLCs in Skyrim, Dawnguard was good, dragonborn was meh. And both were once again 1 mile wide and 1 inch deep. Dont misunderstand me, I had a lot of fun playing Skyrim, but I have had far more fun in ESO. Even if the add ons ruin it for me. The world feels much more alive than skyrim.

Asardes · September 2017

A MMO is far more profitable in the long term than a single player game so it makes sense. Also if you look at the expansions (chapters & DLCs) most of them are aimed primarily or exclusively at the single, casual player.

Speaking strictly for myself even if another TES single player game comes out I won't play it. The same way I ignored FO4 which came out a few months after I started playing ESO. Skyrim and FO3/NV had 0 replayability and I had to get fan made DLCs to keep playing. And once I got the taste for multiplayer single player feels bland and a waste of time because there's no "end game" in it, no competition

RupzSkooma · September 2017

laced wrote: »

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I love SPRPGs , but Skyrim was not an RPG imo, it was an action adventure game with rpg elements. Oblivion was an RPG, morrowind was an RPG, skyrim not so much. Mass effect 1 and 2 were rpgs, Dragon age too. Now a days Games that were rpgs tend to go the route of action adventure. As an action adventure game skyrim was good, but its rpg elements were lacking to say the least. Im struggling to think of a single question in skyrim where you had a choice between one or 2 things....at least, even if the choices are superficial, we have some in ESO.

Skyrim still has a lot more Role Playing elements than ESO. The things is in ESO nothing absolutely nothing make sense while role playing .
Granted Role Playing elements was a lot better in previous ES title (Morrowind being my favorite) but a single Mod can make Skyrim close to it . Multiple mods can make it closer to Morrowind but still won't be there .
Most of the problems in Modrim can be fixed by mods .

The main problem of an MMORPG is not being as much Immersive .
1:-Other players entering places where I should be the only one.
2:-Killing the same boss multiple times .
3:-NPC respawn after being killed .
4:-NPC doesn't have a proper shedule and some NPCs doesn't move at all.
5:-Animals only attack me they does not have a food chain or a shedule.
6:-Zones are not open .
8:-Dark anchor falling after killing Molag Bal.
9:-Guards and some NPCs cannot be killed .
10:-As opposed to what you said I find the combat especially the hit sink broken in ESO.
A sword might not even touch u and u get the hit.
11)Lack of proper physics .
12)NPCs doesn't react if you are a werewolf or polymorphs .
13)So many people using so many powerful powers and abilities .
14)NPCs get ported when you don't need to follow him/her. (They just vanish and spawn at the destination )
15)All mounts same speed a camel can run as fast as a horse.
16)All the choices end up with a same or similar consequences .
17)If you pull someone far enough from their spawn point they will run towards their spawn points when fighting u xD
18)You can't get underwater .
19)For some reason you can be EP and still do quests in AD and DC region and no one cares .
20)Unlimited arrows .
I can go on and on and on and on .
In short the world is unimmersive .
And most of those are not a mistake by Zeni but the problem of the genre as a whole and handling thing server side .