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What's the point of motifs?
ereboz
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I'm sure this has been discussed before but I'm curious what the point of motifs is. I thought that's what they meant when they announced transmutation, not trait swapping. I'd love to be able to choose what I look like, as long as I already have the style I want unlocked. Cuz a lot of the BIS gear in this game looks awful
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Froil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Motifs are for crafting your own gear in a certain style. Since crafted gear is... Sub par at best, motif collecting is mostly a hobby; a time and/or gold sink.
If they ever do add a re-style/transmog/whatever the duck* you want to call it system that doesn't bind gear to you unless it was previously, then the overall price of motifs and crafting would go up substantially so you can have BiS gear that doesn't look like total ship*.
*Replace the D with an F, the P with a T."Best" healer PC/NA0 -
jmferris✭✭I'm sure this has been discussed before but I'm curious what the point of motifs is. I thought that's what they meant when they announced transmutation, not trait swapping. I'd love to be able to choose what I look like, as long as I already have the style I want unlocked. Cuz a lot of the BIS gear in this game looks awful
It is different things for different people. For me, I enjoy the challenge of acquiring them all. Some aspects of this game, I will never be a completionist. However, for motifs, I actually do have a chance at getting all of the ones that are available in-game. For the ones that I cannot get via drops, hunting them down is part of the fun, itself. Have had some good conversations with guildmates, just by inquiring about finding a specific page, too.
I am a "filthy casual", at the end of the day. I will not be running most veteran content in the foreseeable future, if ever at all. And that is just fine with me. For what I do in the game, I have no problem getting by in my crafted sets - and I can pretty much look however I want, because one of my master crafters is around 80% complete on motifs, and creeping closer to the end goal every day.0 -
Conduit0✭✭✭✭✭
✭Supposedly the more motifs you know the better chance you have of getting master writs, so theres that.2 -
Jawasa✭✭✭Atm I think crafted gear is in a great place. you have 3 crafted sets that are usefull in pve hundings, julianos and nightmothers. In pvp eternalhunt, shackelbreaker and seducer also see use. In pve you might even craft a helemet/shoulder now on some staff builds.
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FakeFox✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They said they would be working on a transmogrification system, so i guess this will still be a thing, just not with this patch.EU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)0 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Plenty of crafted sets are used heavily.
Plus they did say a transmorg system is coming0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A lot of great answers above me ... I'll add that having full motifs learned improves your chances of getting equipment master writs.
Crafted sets are getting more relevant again after the most recent HoTR patch.
But, I mostly like having my characters look nice while still being relevant in combat.
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ereboz✭✭✭✭✭They said they would be working on a transmogrification system, so i guess this will still be a thing, just not with this patch.
I was hoping they were working on a transmog system, but then they announce this transmutation thing and I think that's their idea of transmog. They will probably never do proper transmog because it will take away from the store.0 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »But, I mostly like having my characters look nice while still being relevant in combat.
Same.
Several of the crafted sets are decent stat-wise and I can make them in the style of my choice.0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Having styles split up in 14 pages is simply an evil abomination.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.2 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭its annoying keeping up with motifs, esp with the crappy drop rates of buyoant armiger, i dont even bother. not to mention militant ordinator which is the new akiviri makes another expensive endeavor that i dont have the drive to farm ap or spend loads of money on either. then they drop 3 more motifs, all from stealing yay..
ill collect them slowly, i spent so much money keeping up with motifs up to ebony, silken ring, and mazzatun that i dont bother.0 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭its annoying keeping up with motifs, esp with the crappy drop rates of buyoant armiger, i dont even bother. not to mention militant ordinator which is the new akiviri makes another expensive endeavor that i dont have the drive to farm ap or spend loads of money on either. then they drop 3 more motifs, all from stealing yay..
ill collect them slowly, i spent so much money keeping up with motifs up to ebony, silken ring, and mazzatun that i dont bother.0 -
Tucker3711✭✭✭Master writs@Tucker311- PC
Tucker3711
Nord Beth Rose (EP)
Imperial Freya Var (DC)
High Elf Hestia du foyer (AD)
Wood Elf Epona Caoin (AD)
Hotstuff Queen0 -
Jayne_Doe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tucker3711 wrote: »Master writs
Yeah...and they just added the MW and SotH (I don't think these were in the loot table before) motifs to the MWs. Just got a Morag Tong yesterday and a Militant Ordinator a few days ago. Fortunately, I haven't seen BA yet - I don't have any of those pages and it certainly wouldn't be worth buying one just to complete a writ, unless that writ was worth 250+.
I hope that if/when they introduce transmog that it's not locked behind vet dungeons/trials or PVP. Don't mind that transmutation is, since the system seems designed to alleviate some of that grind. I craft my own gear, so I can get the traits I want (and style for that matter, but it'd be nice to be able to change the style if I find I don't really like it and don't want to have to craft an entire new set).0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm sure this has been discussed before but I'm curious what the point of motifs is. I thought that's what they meant when they announced transmutation, not trait swapping. I'd love to be able to choose what I look like, as long as I already have the style I want unlocked. Cuz a lot of the BIS gear in this game looks awful
If you have the motif you want and are not interested in master writs then sell the motifs you get. Really not a big deal.
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Sevn✭✭✭✭✭
✭I almost always use at least one crafted set and one overland/dungeon set so my toon looks good, is more than formidable for all content and I spend less time farming for gear and more time playing the content I enjoy most. Collecting good looking motifs = Win/win for me.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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Gan Xing✭✭✭✭They said they would be working on a transmogrification system, so i guess this will still be a thing, just not with this patch.
I was hoping they were working on a transmog system, but then they announce this transmutation thing and I think that's their idea of transmog. They will probably never do proper transmog because it will take away from the store.
They are still doing transmog. I couldn't find the thread, but one of ZOS said that transmutation is different than Transmogrification... That they are putting out Transmutation with the Clockwork City DLC (you need to have access to Clockwork city to use it) Transmogrification will come at a later date, as it is still in the works.Gan Xing - Crafting Nightblade
Elrana Tinuviel - Hybrid Dragonknight
Elentári Peregrine - Sorcerer "bank"
Rán Xīng - Hybrid Templar
Laurïsil Imlachwen - Stamina Templar
Helotë Tinuviel - Hybrid/Magicka Warden
Odin banker - obv banker
Yan of the Red Mountain - lvl 3 DK - not sure when I will work on em
Seeks the unusual and unique playstyles...0 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EZ money-make,r
i sell every motif i come across, really doesn't matter to me since i wear costumes anyways.0
