Etchos wrote: »

Just like Morrowind killed Templar Healers................. Remember that?

Saying Morrowind killed saptanks is a massive exaggeration. It changed them sure............but killed them? nah.

While they are never going to be meta they are super fun. Remember that guys..........fun? the reason games exist.

Gilliam has done a video update to his bloodletter build based on Morrowind which wont be too different from a Horns of the Reach version. Close enough for you to get the basics down and adjust what you need to suit your playstyle.

In short the answer to all your questions is "whatever suits your playstyle"

Personally I use sword and board and a resto staff but if the healer is doing his job double sword and board will work.

With the sets you are using you probably need more health than what some other builds would need as the set isn't healing you. Most sap tanks would lean towards sets that boost healing or provide healing as you do damage hence the obsession with Baharas Curse.

I run 5-1-1 but as long as you have the heavy 5 piece bonus it doesn't really matter.

Jewelry........if you have problems with magicka sustain then recovery. If not id usually boost my damage in some way as more damage = more healing in a typical sap tank set up. But your sets are not going to provide that benefit so you will need to work out which gap you want to plug and plug it.

I don't use sturdy as I'm not needing to block too much (sets healing through normal damage) Block only needed when its a big hit coming. So its never a problem. I therefore try to run all infused with tri enchants for resources across the board. But again given you wont be picking up the usual sap tank return to health you will likely be blocking more. so maybe sturdy is ok.........

To be honest I think you need to do a lot of working out yourself. Because the sets you are using are so different to what I have seen being used for this the normal answers don't apply. You could watch the bloodletter video for morrowind but unless you change your sets all the answers in it wont be relevant to you. Not saying what you are running is wrong. Its just different........and the thing about different is that videos wont give you the answer. you need to experiment yourself.

What race are you running?

RavenSworn wrote: »

I guess it's time to redefine the workings of a sap tank. previously, you can always deal damage, heal and maintain sustain at the same time. now it's different. a MAGnb tank now has to work towards its strengths, rather than be an allrounder like a dk.

Have you given thought on how some 'staple' choices for the sap tank needs to change? take for example, Swallow Soul. Perhaps it's much better to take Funnel health simply because it gives you to deal damage and heal at the same time? Swallow soul buff, which in turn can be replaced by race change to Argonian or even a whole new set, something like Sanctuary?

Also how about taking sets to a different level? maybe using Dragonguard and Sanctuary, for the ult gen and also to gain the vitality buff for the group. maybe instead of Sanctuary you use Lich? or Spinners for the added damage. or hell, even the treasure hunter set which increases your spell critical and in turn buffs the group with minor savagery up at all times?

again it's about using the class to its strengths, rather than trying to add an advantage for the class. that's imo anyway. I've always feel that we need to move onwards and try to find other ways to get this build back to its great self.