Why isn't there a "Minor Staminasteal?"

GrumpyDuckling
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We have Minor Lifesteal and Minor Magickasteal, but why isn't there a stamina version?
  • Turelus
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    Might be one of their "everyone style plays a different way" choices.

    Does Stamina have any ways to get resources back that others don't?
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  • SirCritical
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    The only one I know is the Warden skill.
  • Dasovaruilos
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    Maybe it is because they already have 20% cheaper skills...

    Maybe it is because they have generally faster Heavy Attacks (at least DW)...

    Maybe it is just an oversight, though I doubt it.

    We really do not need 100% symmetry between Magicka and Stam play styles. I actually liked it better when we had completely different systems for both.

    Shards / Repentance for Stam.
    Worm / Orbs / Magickasteal for Mag.

    As a Templar healer it actually made the supporting part of the role much more interesting.
  • Illurian
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    Aren't lifesteal/magicka steal buffs that were only made into actual buffs recently? (Homestead patch, I'm thinking)

    Before they were actual buffs, they were just effects from Siphon Spirit (restore x amount of health and y amount of magicka) and ele drain (restore z amount of magicka), and the 2 used to be able to be stacked.

    Fairly sure that because of how Repentance and Shards used to work, they never needed to implement a stamina steal. Might change in the future though.
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  • getemshauna
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    Because staminas have night mother, sunderflame or morag tong for support, or staminas have strong and short heavy attack which uses 2 weapons at once, and less stamina cost on skills than magicka? Leave elemental drain alone, this spell is the last thing what makes magickas somehow viable in current meta.
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  • NiclasFridholm
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    Faster HA:s...
    Edited by NiclasFridholm on September 4, 2017 12:07PM
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  • Liofa
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    Because Stamina skills are 15% cheaper than their Magicka versions .
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    Liofa wrote: »
    Because Stamina skills are 15% cheaper than their Magicka versions .

    Might that be a result of stamina being the only way to break free, dodge roll, and sneak? It's also used for blocking in most builds.
  • Personofsecrets
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    Because minor stamina steal might allow tanks to block 1 extra hit per minute.
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  • Izaki
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    Because there's a Master Resto, because all stamina abilities are 15% cheaper than magicka abilities and because all stamina heavy attacks are much faster than destro staves. Its called balance. Stamina sustain is already better than magicka sustain. As a stamina main, I don't need Minor Staminasteal nor do I want it.
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  • Joy_Division
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    Magicka skills have always been more expensive and it has always been easier to get magicka back than stamina. That was the pattern ZoS went with rather than making the two carbon copies.

    Originally this is what made templars so valuable as they had skills in sharps and repentance that returned stamina to allies.

    Now that many aspects of the game have become homogenized (e.g.the templar shard skill now returns either stam or magicka), it might be time just to make magicka and stamina carbon copies. As a magicka user, I'd prefer cheaper skills and faster heavy attacks than being dependent on a buff for sustain.
    Edited by Joy_Division on September 4, 2017 2:19PM
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  • Jawasa
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    Because They dont need it probably. Atleast for me as a stam dd i rarley run dry.
  • caperon
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    Magicka skills have always been more expensive and it has always been easier to get magicka back than stamina. That was the pattern ZoS went with rather than making the two carbon copies.

    Originally this is what made templars so valuable as they had skills in sharps and repentance that returned stamina to allies.

    Now that many aspects of the game have become homogenized (e.g.the templar shard skill now returns either stam or magicka), it might be time just to make magicka and stamina carbon copies. As a magicka user, I'd prefer cheaper skills and faster heavy attacks than being dependent on a buff for sustain.

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    Edited by caperon on September 4, 2017 7:25PM
  • NyassaV
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    becuase you have vicious Ophidian and your skills are cheaper to begin with
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  • Vaoh
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    Well.....
    • Stamina skills are 15-20% cheaper than Magicka skills (huge)
    • Stamina Heavy attacks are quicker (huge)
    • Master Restoration staff restores Stamina to affected targets (huge)

    Stamina Sustain is very good in PvE atm. If a Minor Staminasteal was introduced it would actually be OP on PvP Magicka builds.

  • Lexxypwns
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Well.....
    • Stamina skills are 15-20% cheaper than Magicka skills (huge)
    • Stamina Heavy attacks are quicker (huge)
    • Master Restoration staff restores Stamina to affected targets (huge)

    Stamina Sustain is very good in PvE atm. If a Minor Staminasteal was introduced it would actually be OP on PvP Magicka builds.

    There's literally no requirement that could be steep enough to make it not broken OP at that.
    Edited by Lexxypwns on September 4, 2017 7:47PM
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    Unless you are Redguard. Then you have adrenaline rush which works similarly.
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    A flat stamina regen buff the likes of stamina steal would be absolutely broken in PvP.
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