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Stam Sorc vs Mag Sorc

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I have often heard how powerful Mag Sorc is but very much limelight is given to its cousin the Stam Sorc.
My very first toon in ESO was a Stam Blade and my leveling experience was not so good (to say the least).
Now I have around 200 CP and I have been leveling this Khajit Stam Sorc.
So far all PVE content (overland content,delves, public/4 man and world bosses) have been a breeze.

This is my setup

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I dont care about the parsing/dmg numbers as this is primarily solo and intended for survival and downing the mobs.

My point being when PVEing with Stam Sorc is soooooo much easier and near invincible why does it not get the attention ?.
....Or I must be wrong and the community is already aware of how powerful Stam Sorc is :)
  • DCanadianBacon
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    vpy wrote: »
    I have often heard how powerful Mag Sorc is but very much limelight is given to its cousin the Stam Sorc.
    My very first toon in ESO was a Stam Blade and my leveling experience was not so good (to say the least).
    Now I have around 200 CP and I have been leveling this Khajit Stam Sorc.
    So far all PVE content (overland content,delves, public/4 man and world bosses) have been a breeze.

    This is my setup

    cS6o1Vj.png

    I dont care about the parsing/dmg numbers as this is primarily solo and intended for survival and downing the mobs.

    My point being when PVEing with Stam Sorc is soooooo much easier and near invincible why does it not get the attention ?.
    ....Or I must be wrong and the community is already aware of how powerful Stam Sorc is :)

    Stamsorc has long been considered one of the best classes for running Vet Maelstrom. But when it comes to most group and end game content for Min Maxers, it's outclassed by other classes.

    This isn't totally new info, but a lot of people have been moving away from stam sorc for general PvE, since most content in this game is Group based, and things like Stamblades and Stam DK have better DPS for more situations. Stam Sorc is also super reliant on Weapon skills, since they really only have 3-4 useful class based skills with stam morphs, and people find that boring to play.

    But you're right, it's a great class for solo play, and is still viable for everything else, it's just min maxers want more.
    Edited by DCanadianBacon on September 4, 2017 4:57AM
  • Morgul667
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    stamsorc is great for solo play. They used to be the meta at some point then it changed.

    They are good but not top dogs, especially for group content.

    Anyway most class are more or less balanced now. If you were to level your stamblade with CP200 and your knowledge of the game today, youll go through the game very easily as well.

  • SoLooney
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    Theyre strong but stamblades and stam dks are probably stronger single dps wise and they provide useful utility
  • Kurkikohtaus
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    There's one thing you seem not to have understood, and that is that to level or quest through the story zones solo requires one skill of your choice, heavy attack, light attack and a weapon that is up-to-date every 5 levels or so. If you need dark conversion AND a pet to survive overland, you are doing something wrong.

    And Please stay out of vet dungeon PuGs with those absolutely horrendous skill bars. If you Don't care about parsing and dps, that is your choice, but then vet dungeons are not for you.
  • SydneyGrey
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    And Please stay out of vet dungeon PuGs with those absolutely horrendous skill bars. If you Don't care about parsing and dps, that is your choice, but then vet dungeons are not for you.
    How about calm down and let people play the way they want to? Not everyone builds a meta build right off the bat. It takes time to learn what skill/rotation combos work the best. I doubt the OP has any intention of rushing into a vet dungeon tomorrow, but even if they did, it wouldn't be your business.

  • Mettaricana
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    My stam sorc runs circles around most mag sorcs i play in dps survival and resources. In duels ive burned mag sorcs and pets down in seconds in trials and dungeons very hard to kill
  • SydneyGrey
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    My stam sorc runs circles around most mag sorcs i play in dps survival and resources. In duels ive burned mag sorcs and pets down in seconds in trials and dungeons very hard to kill
    Very awesome. My youngest alt is a Redguard stamsorc. I was working on leveling her today, and she is so fun to play. She's going to do amazing DPS when she's all grown up, and has some good gear.
  • Biro123
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    Having played all those classes to 50, and also starting as a stamblade, I can say that there are multiple thing affecting this Not all may be relevant to you, but they were to me at the time:

    1. Lack of Stamblade healing.. Unless you PVP to get Vigour unlocked, Rally doesn't come till really late in the line - so much of the levelling process has nect to no healing. WHere Stamsorc gets the very good (for PVE) surge, and dark deal for burst.

    2. First character is always more difficult. No CPs, nor crafting ability nor resources to make gear, nor gold to buy gear = worse gear/stats.

    3. You learn a lot more about the game by the time you're working on your second character. You know the mechanics better, and so *generally* know what skills to spend your points on, and are just better at playing.

    4. Stamsorc is slightly better at solo play - just by having more aoe's/survivability early-on

    But ALL of the above add up to a significant difference. And as others have said - stamsorc is a good class for endgame soloing - but in group content, when your heals come from dedicated healers etc... its dps isn't the best (but is workable for most content), its tanking isn't the best(but is workable for most content) - and it certainly can't be a dedicated healer!

    Personally though, I'm not too keen on stamsorc... Its all the buffs you have to keep up just to be a stamsorc (surge/hurricane/rally) - got bored with that eventually - and outside of that you really only have the weapon skills to deal damage with.. The worst part of that is that the only spammables are channels apart from ransack. I just don't like channelled attacks. - but that's a personal thing.

    I saw you were asking about soloing dungeons n stuff in other threads.. I've done plenty in my stamsorc... I was using heavy armour, sword n board/bow.. Endless hail/hurricane for AoE ransack for single target, with proc sets. Wasn't the fastest, but was tanky enough to survive most bosses, and wore both them and adds down fairly easily.

    Nerf Sorc! (No, I won't let you forget your contributions to the nerf-sorc threads)

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    Nerf Sorc! (No, I won't let you forget your contributions to the nerf-sorc threads)

    LOL

    Not a fan of Mag Sorc which is why i still play the Stam Sorc
  • AcadianPaladin
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    For a bow/bow stamsorc, I find Dark Conversion helpful - not for the healing but for the boost of magicka that allows you to keep your tank (clannfear) alive. Things are alot easier if that clannfear is alive and holding aggro but it can take quite a bit of magicka to keep him alive. Once he's got solid aggro on a boss, I hate to have him die. Resummoning him means also working to get aggro back onto him.
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • DRXHarbinger
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    StamDK and NB are only marginally better at DPS, if groups are actually being *** and crying over it then walk away from them, the difference isn't a wipe / 10,000 group points in a trial at all. Also I'd rather have a good stamsorc running with me than some guy whos clicked ctrl+V from some streamer so to speak on his new StamDK any day of the week. Also I prefer taking a stamsorc with near 20k+ resistances over a DK's sponginess and need to spam vigor over and over.
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  • Morgul667
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    StamDK and NB are only marginally better at DPS, if groups are actually being *** and crying over it then walk away from them, the difference isn't a wipe / 10,000 group points in a trial at all. Also I'd rather have a good stamsorc running with me than some guy whos clicked ctrl+V from some streamer so to speak on his new StamDK any day of the week. Also I prefer taking a stamsorc with near 20k+ resistances over a DK's sponginess and need to spam vigor over and over.

    Id always choose someone who can play his char over someone who cannot :)
  • Brrrofski
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    And Please stay out of vet dungeon PuGs with those absolutely horrendous skill bars. If you Don't care about parsing and dps, that is your choice, but then vet dungeons are not for you.
    How about calm down and let people play the way they want to? Not everyone builds a meta build right off the bat. It takes time to learn what skill/rotation combos work the best. I doubt the OP has any intention of rushing into a vet dungeon tomorrow, but even if they did, it wouldn't be your business.

    I hope you only get people with builds not fit for dungeons when you pug.

    People should play how they like. Play what they enjoy. Not in vet dungeons though. Don't waste other people's time.
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