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Mag DK Heavy Attack build?
Ihatenightblades
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Would it be possible to run a heavy attack mag DK build? And i mean run end game content. PVE ONLY
Currently i run 5 bsw 3 infallible 2 skoria but i feel its a bit outdated and thinking of dropping monster helm for another 5 pc. Was thinking something like this
5 sun
5 elegant On front bar ( infused or sharpened or charged inferno staff )
1 ice heart
Lover mundus or apprentice
Now for rotation im guessing heavy attacking in between each dot with destro ult or shooting star as ult.
Does anybody think or know if this set up can pull some high numbers? I mean the bread and butter of stam DK is heavy attack in between all your dots and its a easy 35k dps.
What you guys think?
I already have elegant staffs in bank im just hoping it can work
Plus it takes advantage of molten armaments 40% damage increase on heavys plus elegant thats 60% .
Even though heavys attacks got nerfed i think its still possib to push out high dps.
Edited by Ihatenightblades on August 31, 2017 12:30AM Currently i run 5 bsw 3 infallible 2 skoria but i feel its a bit outdated and thinking of dropping monster helm for another 5 pc. Was thinking something like this
5 sun
5 elegant On front bar ( infused or sharpened or charged inferno staff )
1 ice heart
Lover mundus or apprentice
Now for rotation im guessing heavy attacking in between each dot with destro ult or shooting star as ult.
Does anybody think or know if this set up can pull some high numbers? I mean the bread and butter of stam DK is heavy attack in between all your dots and its a easy 35k dps.
What you guys think?
I already have elegant staffs in bank im just hoping it can work
Plus it takes advantage of molten armaments 40% damage increase on heavys plus elegant thats 60% .
Even though heavys attacks got nerfed i think its still possib to push out high dps.
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✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »Last era stuff.
Julianos and mother sorrow was last era also. And now its bis. Whats your point? Have you tested or na?Edited by Ihatenightblades on August 31, 2017 12:30AM0 -
MaselClass Representativehttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309550/elemental-fury-pve-heavy-attack-dk-build-hotr-ready/p1
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MaselClass RepresentativeIhatenightblades wrote: »
Thanks but a build from 2017 would have been more helpful.
? that build is for Horns of the reach. How up-to-date should it be?
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SASQUATCH0✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »
Thanks but a build from 2017 would have been more helpful.
? that build is for Horns of the reach. How up-to-date should it be?
It can get a bit confusing trying to decipher what's new and what's old in that thread seeing as it was made in 2016. But it has been updated and can vouch this build is awesome. Would like to see a rotation video and maybe update the cp
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dickeybarret✭✭I wouldn't be so quick to write it off. That build is powerful and as mentioned flexible...even doing decent damage without the vMA stuffsEdited by dickeybarret on August 31, 2017 1:10PM0
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✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »
Thanks but a build from 2017 would have been more helpful.
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✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »
Thanks but a build from 2017 would have been more helpful.
? that build is for Horns of the reach. How up-to-date should it be?
My bad i was looking at start of thread which was dec 2016. Il look into it thanks !!
Im fine with 32k dps minimum self buffed with major breach/fracture anything less i can just go back to 5 spw 3 aether vma staff and skoria.0 -
dickeybarret✭✭Using the insperation from @Masel92 and without a vma staff, a slightly modified rotation to fit what works for me, I nail down 28k parces with just ele drain and not dropping ultimates. So yea. I'd say it's pretty viable.1
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✭dickeybarret wrote: »Using the insperation from @Masel92 and without a vma staff, a slightly modified rotation to fit what works for me, I nail down 28k parces with just ele drain and not dropping ultimates. So yea. I'd say it's pretty viable.
28k is really weak i can do that with magic and stam warden.
For vet trials guilds already have full dps that do 35k+ self buffed parses so there would be no need to bring in so much less dps.
Cant be mad though not every set combo is meant to give you high dps i guess il go back to original build.0 -
dickeybarret✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »dickeybarret wrote: »Using the insperation from @Masel92 and without a vma staff, a slightly modified rotation to fit what works for me, I nail down 28k parces with just ele drain and not dropping ultimates. So yea. I'd say it's pretty viable.
28k is really weak i can do that with magic and stam warden.
For vet trials guilds already have full dps that do 35k+ self buffed parses so there would be no need to bring in so much less dps.
Cant be mad though not every set combo is meant to give you high dps i guess il go back to original build.
You didn't read the post then and just looked at a number. Just ele drain, not dropping any ultimate, and no vma staff. To say nothing of the crazy off balance time you give your group.Edited by dickeybarret on August 31, 2017 9:57PM1 -
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✭dickeybarret wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »dickeybarret wrote: »Using the insperation from @Masel92 and without a vma staff, a slightly modified rotation to fit what works for me, I nail down 28k parces with just ele drain and not dropping ultimates. So yea. I'd say it's pretty viable.
28k is really weak i can do that with magic and stam warden.
For vet trials guilds already have full dps that do 35k+ self buffed parses so there would be no need to bring in so much less dps.
Cant be mad though not every set combo is meant to give you high dps i guess il go back to original build.
You didn't read the post then and just looked at a number. Just ele drain, not dropping any ultimate, and no vma staff. To say nothing of the crazy off balance time you give your group.
I mean just ele drain is all you need. And who told you not to use a ultimate? You telling me you had it at all times and didnt use it? Thats weird.
And ya 28k still is pretty weak for end game content. And on mag dk parses you wont be getting off balance buff since you use 2 flame staff ( if you use 2 flames like i do ) so ya 28k isn't horrible but its not great at all. Mag sorc pet builds are doing 40k dps. Magblade is doing 40k i need atleast 33k but thats my preference and my guilds preference. If u have a guild that has lower dps in it then they should welcome you with open arms with 28k.0 -
dickeybarret✭✭Then I bow before your elite greatness. Clearly you know it all and we are all peons below your epic epeen...I'm sorry for offering any opinion on the matter.4
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✭dickeybarret wrote: »Then I bow before your elite greatness. Clearly you know it all and we are all peons below your epic epeen...I'm sorry for offering any opinion on the matter.
No i know what you told me. 28k dps which in MY OPINION like i said isnt great at all you can be easily replaced with better dps
And i dont see why you are offended by my response i gave you my opinion and here you are saying "sorry for offering any opinion on the matter"
Well il send that statement right back at you. Sorry for offering any opinion on the matter. I didnt know it would offend you by saying 28k dps is below my standard.
Have a good dayEdited by Ihatenightblades on August 31, 2017 10:42PM0 -
SmellyUnlimited✭✭✭✭Julianos and mothers sorrow is not BIS.
Most notable streamers agree - Mag DK BIS is Burning Spellweave (with the increase to burning damage), and Julianos.
Personally, I'll still use my maelstrom staff with BSW, 3 piece willpower with spell damage, and Grothdarr or Valkyn. Or if you wanna rock some ultimate, you can go 3 piece Potentate jewelry.DO. NOT. WIPE. (in game OR out!)0 -
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✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Julianos and mothers sorrow is not BIS.
Most notable streamers agree - Mag DK BIS is Burning Spellweave (with the increase to burning damage), and Julianos.
Personally, I'll still use my maelstrom staff with BSW, 3 piece willpower with spell damage, and Grothdarr or Valkyn. Or if you wanna rock some ultimate, you can go 3 piece Potentate jewelry.
No minor slayer on jewelry? I think it gives more dps than willpower. But ya that what i run but i use infallible instead of willpower. Plus infallhible adds 800 crit which is nice 0 -
SmellyUnlimited✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Julianos and mothers sorrow is not BIS.
Most notable streamers agree - Mag DK BIS is Burning Spellweave (with the increase to burning damage), and Julianos.
Personally, I'll still use my maelstrom staff with BSW, 3 piece willpower with spell damage, and Grothdarr or Valkyn. Or if you wanna rock some ultimate, you can go 3 piece Potentate jewelry.
No minor slayer on jewelry? I think it gives more dps than willpower. But ya that what i run but i use infallible instead of willpower. Plus infallhible adds 800 crit which is nice
The minor slayer is nice, though I tend to prefer the extra 1400 mag and spell damage. I haven't done a DPS parse with IA vs. Willpower, but I've a feeling they are probably pretty close.DO. NOT. WIPE. (in game OR out!)0 -
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✭✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Julianos and mothers sorrow is not BIS.
Most notable streamers agree - Mag DK BIS is Burning Spellweave (with the increase to burning damage), and Julianos.
Personally, I'll still use my maelstrom staff with BSW, 3 piece willpower with spell damage, and Grothdarr or Valkyn. Or if you wanna rock some ultimate, you can go 3 piece Potentate jewelry.
No minor slayer on jewelry? I think it gives more dps than willpower. But ya that what i run but i use infallible instead of willpower. Plus infallhible adds 800 crit which is nice
The minor slayer is nice, though I tend to prefer the extra 1400 mag and spell damage. I haven't done a DPS parse with IA vs. Willpower, but I've a feeling they are probably pretty close.
Moondancer / Master Architect over IA, the Magika is better than the crit.
BSW is not BIS, I get the feeling some people still run with it after grinding it out and won't part with it. Sun is far better, allows you to run 7 light and not have sub 17k health with no RNG on procs at all.
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Kneighbors✭✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Julianos and mothers sorrow is not BIS.
Most notable streamers agree - Mag DK BIS is Burning Spellweave (with the increase to burning damage), and Julianos.
Personally, I'll still use my maelstrom staff with BSW, 3 piece willpower with spell damage, and Grothdarr or Valkyn. Or if you wanna rock some ultimate, you can go 3 piece Potentate jewelry.
No minor slayer on jewelry? I think it gives more dps than willpower. But ya that what i run but i use infallible instead of willpower. Plus infallhible adds 800 crit which is nice
The minor slayer is nice, though I tend to prefer the extra 1400 mag and spell damage. I haven't done a DPS parse with IA vs. Willpower, but I've a feeling they are probably pretty close.
Moondancer / Master Architect over IA, the Magika is better than the crit.
BSW is not BIS, I get the feeling some people still run with it after grinding it out and won't part with it. Sun is far better, allows you to run 7 light and not have sub 17k health with no RNG on procs at all.
OT BSW is NOT optimal by any means on a heavy attack build or any build that is centred around a lit staff and blockade of storms.
It seems you are the one who is bound to Sun and lazy to farm BSW. The 1k hp argument sounds really stupid taking into account you can get any amount of HP a dd needs from runes. Sorry mate but Sun is much worse for heavy attack build too.0 -
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✭Kneighbors wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Julianos and mothers sorrow is not BIS.
Most notable streamers agree - Mag DK BIS is Burning Spellweave (with the increase to burning damage), and Julianos.
Personally, I'll still use my maelstrom staff with BSW, 3 piece willpower with spell damage, and Grothdarr or Valkyn. Or if you wanna rock some ultimate, you can go 3 piece Potentate jewelry.
No minor slayer on jewelry? I think it gives more dps than willpower. But ya that what i run but i use infallible instead of willpower. Plus infallhible adds 800 crit which is nice
The minor slayer is nice, though I tend to prefer the extra 1400 mag and spell damage. I haven't done a DPS parse with IA vs. Willpower, but I've a feeling they are probably pretty close.
Moondancer / Master Architect over IA, the Magika is better than the crit.
BSW is not BIS, I get the feeling some people still run with it after grinding it out and won't part with it. Sun is far better, allows you to run 7 light and not have sub 17k health with no RNG on procs at all.
OT BSW is NOT optimal by any means on a heavy attack build or any build that is centred around a lit staff and blockade of storms.
It seems you are the one who is bound to Sun and lazy to farm BSW. The 1k hp argument sounds really stupid taking into account you can get any amount of HP a dd needs from runes. Sorry mate but Sun is much worse for heavy attack build too.
Did he just say 1k health is better than crit lmaoo.
Btw bro its been tested BSW beats sun by tad bit.
Plus silk of the sun doesnt stack with you original spell damage. It pre calculates your spell damage before attack then applies the extra spell dmg from sun. So thats another knock on sun.
Its not a big difference but bsw is better. And i never said i was using lightening staff maybe somebody else did though and why would we be too shaky to drop bsw when you can literaly craft julianos or buy silk of sun from traders LOL.
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Trashkan✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »dickeybarret wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »dickeybarret wrote: »Using the insperation from @Masel92 and without a vma staff, a slightly modified rotation to fit what works for me, I nail down 28k parces with just ele drain and not dropping ultimates. So yea. I'd say it's pretty viable.
28k is really weak i can do that with magic and stam warden.
For vet trials guilds already have full dps that do 35k+ self buffed parses so there would be no need to bring in so much less dps.
Cant be mad though not every set combo is meant to give you high dps i guess il go back to original build.
You didn't read the post then and just looked at a number. Just ele drain, not dropping any ultimate, and no vma staff. To say nothing of the crazy off balance time you give your group.
I mean just ele drain is all you need. And who told you not to use a ultimate? You telling me you had it at all times and didnt use it? Thats weird.
And ya 28k still is pretty weak for end game content. And on mag dk parses you wont be getting off balance buff since you use 2 flame staff ( if you use 2 flames like i do ) so ya 28k isn't horrible but its not great at all. Mag sorc pet builds are doing 40k dps. Magblade is doing 40k i need atleast 33k but thats my preference and my guilds preference. If u have a guild that has lower dps in it then they should welcome you with open arms with 28k.
It's comments like this that makes the whole pve community scared to run trials and why there is such a lack of end game pve players and guilds. You can complete almost every trial with 150k group dps. It's not gonna be pretty but with the right calls and knowledge of mechanics. That equals to under 20k each dps.0 -
Trashkan✭✭✭Now that being said if you want to beat hard modes 35k with group buffs is a requirement.0
